Posted on 03/04/2006 5:06:43 AM PST by Timeout
....This state of beautiful mountains and popular ski resorts, once a magnet for back-to-the-landers, is losing young people at a precipitous clip....
Vermont, with a population of about 620,000, now has the lowest birth rate among states....The total number of 20- to 34-year-olds in Vermont has shrunk by 19 percent since 1990.
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While Vermont's population of young people shrinks, the number of older residents is multiplying because Vermont increasingly attracts retirees from other states.
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Fewer babies are being born in part because Vermont has few immigrants, who tend to have larger families...There is also a serious housing shortage, with mountains and environmental restrictions barring building in many places.
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And Daniel M. Fogel, the University of Vermont's president, says some have not grasped the seriousness of the problem. They believe a shrinking population will prevent overdevelopment, but these "antisprawl folks are the very people who tend to value very highly the environmental protections and the social programs, which the state is not going to be able to afford if the working population shrinks"...
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That "perfect storm" known as utopian liberalism. It's so funny watching the Times and its fellow travellers discover that decades of aggresive building restrictions and sneering at large families leads to a collapse of their revered tax base.
Vermont is Europe without the immigrants. Incredible how, perhaps for the first time ever, the Times has written an article which omits any mention of race. How white is Vermont? Funny, too, how the libs Eutopias always seem to be overwhelmingly Caucasian.
Anyway, God bless Vermont...and its effort to make the state "the 'Silicon Valley' of environmental technology companies". LOL!
Howard Dean Heaven bump.
Touche!
I'm ashamed I didn't even think of THAT angle.
Hurricanes scared them off.
Perhaps this explains it:
Most people moving to Vermont are well-educated retirees like Dale Lott, 71, from New Jersey, who bought a Victorian Gothic house in Poultney for just over $100,000.I was amazed to read that. They certainly can't do that in Florida.
"There is also a serious housing shortage, with mountains and environmental restrictions barring building in many places."
It could be summed up as follows: Insane taxes and housing costs, no opportunity for young people.
I live in NY. I think they said that about 30% of the young people born here have left to go other states.
If I lived in a state that had Howard Dean as governor, Patric Leahy as senator and Bernie Sanders as my sole representative in Washington, I would leave in a flash.
Half of Vermont probably has a vacation home in Florida they go to when it gets cold. That way they get to vote twice in elections too.
they're moving to communist china where its less socialistic.
Couldn't find a meal until I got to Burlington. Where I got a parking ticket.
Good point. And that applies to the liberal suburbs that ring urban Boston. Brookline, Newton, Weston, Sudbury, etc. This is the limousine-liberal Mike Dukakis set. Want to see a bunch of liberals acting like David Duke? Just try putting up low-income housing in their tony suburbs and you will be entertained by their reactions. Or better yet, watch their reaction if their 19-year-old daughter brings a black man home to dinner. These liberals love tolerance and diversity, just so long it is other people doing the tolerating and diversifying.
They don't even mention that winter starts in October and lasts until May.
Those retirees will be sorry when they get really old.
I don't see too many Vermont plates in the panhandle. Most of plates are either from Canada or Michigan.
If we can pry the liberals out of academia, modern liberalism will end up being a self-correcting problem in the long-term. Thanks to gay marriage and abortion, they'll just wither away and die in a couple of generations. They have to recruit in the schools and universities in order to survive; else, they just dry up, with a birthrate that's unable to sustain their liberal Utopias.
We can win by just out-breeding them. And we'll have more fun doing it too! :)
}:-)4
In Vermont if you buy a $100,000 Victorian it is probably in an advanced state of decay. So, where are the fixit guys? You know, the young electricians, plumbers, carpenters, etc., you find by the ton in the dynamic states of Texas, Arizona, New Mexico, Nevada and Utah? Where are the illegals who can be found to build walls, lay brick, and landscape? Something tells me that the Victorian is not the only thing in an advanced state of decay. How about Vermont society in general?
lmao, even then you better be through the door before the city closes down at 9pm.
"I left New Hampshire 24 years ago and never regretted it once."
NH is the last bastion of freedom in New England, but we are being overwelmed by Mass-holes moving in from the south. Its still nice not to have an income or sales tax ... but the libs have taken over the school boards of most towns and the property taxes are a killer! The gun laws (or lack there of) are very good in NH and VT ... but these days North Carolina's tenology triangle is looking good to me. Live out in the sticks for cheap $$$ and drive into the city area for work.
Vermont lost its most precious resource--viz. liberal, open, free-thinking minds--when it was invaded and overwhelmed by illiberal, closed-minded, politically correct Leftists.
Sing it brother.
Who can blame anyone from leaving Vermont? It says something for a state that elects such leftists socialists as Sanders & Leahy to be their leaders. Hopefully the people of Massachussetts will be the next to wise up.
I wish. There are a ton of elderly moving here every day.
Actually, there are a ton of other people moving here also, just to be fair.
I live in the fastest growing city in the US & Florida's population is growing by leaps and bounds.
Of course we do have a very low tax rate, no state income tax at all, and homestead excemption as well as a State house and Senate firmly controlled by Republicans...
How about Vermont?
Whaddaya know...those gay marriages aren't making babies! Don't come to Texas after you've fouled your own nest, Vermont liberals. We've quarantined our liberals in Austin and we don't want or need any more.
100% spot on. I live in Wastechester NY. The liberal C%%^s driving SUVS and BMW's are the worst people to deal with. They will run you over to get a good parking spot faster than you could blink.
I'm losing my assistant to N.C.
We see those NE plates here in SE Fl.
I suppose this is where most of them end up.
Along with annoyingly stupid democratic bumper stickers that I rip off at any chance. 8^)
All right, all you Freepers! You heard the Moose.
Now close down those computers; get back in bed; and DO YOUR DUTY!
Your country needs you!
The kids have to leave, to find decent jobs. After all, how many people do you need to stuff Teddy Bears and throw feed to Holsteins?
I guess you need a few to man the syrup kettles, but come on!
Exactly right, NH is racing as fast as it can to catch up with our neighbors to the south, east and west. Our rural town put in sidewalks in front of the library in town center- no one can figure out why - everyone walks in the street anyway - some newbies are hysterical over some free-ranging geese walking around one end of town - they have organized a 'Citizen Watch' committee to report (they wanted the right to ticket!)people exceeding a 'safe' speed - this in a town where they regularly block the street so their little kids can play in the street! Don't even ask about the race quota at UNH and the bogus polls they take. There is a big move on to ban smoking in the state. 'Live Free or Die' is fast becoming a major joke here!
The best thing that we could ever do for America is to get rid of the liberal infestation of our schools.
Without that, the decay simply spreads as fast as you can run away.
Make that "was"
Last time I visited my Parents in N.H. it was turning into northern Massachusetts. I figure in a few years they will get a state income tax I don't believe the Liquor stores alone can support the state's budget. The property taxes alone will drive off the kids, you can't afford it on many of the wages offered up there, and Heaven help you if you even think about cutting the budget on the states biggest pork program, aka Education.
I am better off in Northwest Florida. It's a far easier lifestyle and cheaper.
Didn't you get the memo!..The Gulf side of the state is where you are suposed to live.
Unfortunately Vermont's decreasing population won't decrease it's representation in Congress and the Electoral College. It already only has one congressman and every state has two senators.
Wouldn't this be an ideal state for Islamists to colonize? It has a declining native population, and they have a high rate of fertility. At some point they would have a voting majority and could elect two Muslim US senators.
Ditto Maine. I'm outa here as soon as my kids hit college.
That is interesting.
Is there a minimum number of EC delegates?
Florida seems to have picked up quite a few.
More now I think than NY.
As a friend from east Texas told me: "Southerns like blacks as people, but not as a race. Northerners like blacks as a race, but not as people."
I always wanted to put
bush/Cheney stickers over those stickers and wait in the bushes with a camcorder to record the response and put it on Americas Funniest Videos.
"There is also a serious housing shortage"
I don't see how they could possibly explain that in a reasonable manner, if they are losing people, especially since we are coming off the greatest housing construction boom in history.
Sounds like Great Barrington, MA. The do love their NPR, though.
You can buy a Victorian house for $100,000, yet they have a serious housing shortage? Doesn't seem to add up.
It's still nice not to have an income or sales tax.........
It's NOT nice to have a $100.000 view tax put on you like I just did, here in good old N.H.!
Yes! Three! The size of the EC vote for a state is determined by adding the number of senators and congressman representing the state in Washington. Every state has two senators regardless of population. Additionally all states have at least one member of the House regardless of whether they have enough population for a house district.
My GF parent's have a summer house in the Berkshires. Its literally amazing, the amount of rich liberals over there.
I feel bad for the locals who seem to be getting pushed out.
Isn't that double taxation? After all, don't pieces of realestate with a great view tend to have higher market prices? Property taxes are based on the market value of the property; therefore, you are being taxed doubly for your view.
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