Weekend Talk Show *Preview* for 3/2/06 - 3/3/06 (not the live thread)

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[Phsstpok]

Journal Editorial Report (Paul Gigot) - FNC show page

• Meme:
  • Iran is the real problem and we can't win in Iraq because we haven't "taken care" of them
  • Bush made a very important foreign policy trip - did anyone notice?
• Topics:
  • Is Iran outsmarting the U.S. in the fight for the hearts and minds of the Iraqi people? (per FNC web page)
  • Is Iran waging war against Americans in Iraq? (per Opinion Journal web page)
  • President Bush makes history abroad, but is dogged by controversy at home (per FNC web page)
  • A debate over President Bush's South Asia trip and his nuclear deal with India. (per Opinion Journal web page)
  • And, Hits and Misses!
• Guests
  • Michael Rubin, (a former U.S. official in Iraq now at the American Enterprise Institute)
    • Rubin wrote an article on this shows main topics, linked below
• Journal Editorial Report (at Fox News) contact information - jer@foxnews.com
• The program is from The Wall Street Journal and airs on FNC Saturday nights at 11 p.m. ET and again Sunday at 6 a.m.

Fox News Sunday (Chris Wallace)

• Meme:
  • Is Iraq lost? - Would that be Bush's Fault™?
  • The media lied about the "secret" AP tapes, but Bush still messed up badly
  • Bush hung Michael Brown out to dry
• Topics:
  • Are we watching the start of civil war in Iraq?
  • Katrina and the Federal response (per former FEMA Director Michael Brown)
• Guests
  • Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Gen. Peter Pace
    • General Pace will talk about success in Iraq, but all of the questions will be about the civil war
  • former FEMA Director Michael Brown
    • Brown will insist he isn't trashing the President and will proceed to trash the President by trashing everyone who works for him
• Fox News Sunday contact information - FNS@foxnews.com

NBC Meet The Press (Tim Russert)

• Meme:
  • Iraq is lost, it's a civil war - It's Bush's Fault™
  • We're giving the terrorists control of our ports - It's Bush's Fault™
  • We better be nice to Russia, or else
  • John Edwards is running for President
• Topics:
  • Is Iraq on the brink of a civil war?
  • What does the increased violence mean for our troops and the region's stability?
  • The Council on Foreign Relations' independent Task Force on Russian-American Relations ( co-chaired by Kemp and Edwards)
  • American ports, Iraq and the state of U.S. politics (Edwards/Kemp discussion)
• Guests
  • The Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Gen. Peter Pace
    • General Pace will try to talk about success in Iraq, but all of the questions will be about the civil war and how things are getting much worse
  • Democrat John Edwards
    • Edwards will try to act Presidential and will emphasize how much of an expert on foreign policy he is now
  • Republican Jack Kemp
    • Kemp will try to defend the ports deal with Timmy won't give him the chance or will set him up then turn to Edwards and say, in effect, that Kemp must be out of his mind
    • Jack Kemp will act remarkably like a good ex-President, too bad he never got the chance
• What would you like to ask this week's guests? (web page for submitting questions for this weeks show)
• Meet the Press mailbox (web page for comments)

CBS Face The Nation (Bob Schieffer)

• Meme:
  • The Iraq war is hopeless and we must run away now
  • We're giving the terrorists control of our ports - It's Bush's Fault™
  • Richard Lugar is thinking of running for President
• Topics:
  • none listed
• Guests
  • Sen. Richard Lugar, R-Ind.
    • It seems that Lugar is pissed at the White House, but he'll make some half hearted noises defending our policy in Iraq, even though he thinks it's failing
    • Luger is really pissed about the ports deal
  • Rep. John Murtha, D-Pa.
    • Murtha will quote Graham Chapman from Monty Python and the Holy Grail: "Run away!"
• Face The Nation contact information - ftn@cbsnews.com

ABC This Week (George Stephanopoulos)

• Meme:
  • Iraq is lost, it's a civil war - It's Bush's Fault™
  • We're giving the terrorists control of our ports - It's Bush's Fault™
  • Everybody's running for something, but mostly President
• Topics:
  • The "US Ports controversey"
    • "Extreme opposition to the transfer of six U.S. port terminals to the control of a Dubai-based company mounts on Capitol Hill."
    • "Port security and ... whether foreign companies should have a stake in critical U.S. infrastructure"
  • Wesley Clark
    • the U.S. campaign in Iraq
      • "Are U.S. troop levels appropriate to the task at hand?"
      • "Is Iraq on the cusp of all-out civil war?"
    • Clark's own presidential aspirations
      • "Is Gen. Clark the Democrats' best shot in 2008 when it comes to the issue of national security?"
  • Voices segment: "comedian and talk-show host Stephen Colbert offers advice to his friend and boss Jon Stewart on hosting the Oscars."
• Guests
  • Sen. Susan Collins, R-Maine
    • Susan Collins thinks the ports deal finally gives her the weapon she needs to bash the White House, which she feels hasn't paid enough attention to the "real Republicans," meaning the RINOs
  • Rep. Duncan Hunter, R-Calif.
    • Hunter  is really pissed about the ports deal
  • Retired Gen. Wesley Clark on Iraq and his 2008 presidential prospects.
    • Clark will show what a policy wonk he is and will make outrageous charges over the ports deal and the Iraq civil war
    • He will also try to show that he has a "real policy" for ending world poverty (by giving away all of your wealth - you rich capitalist you)
  • Former Labor Secretary Robert Reich (roundtable)
    • He's short
    • He's really, really, short
    • The ports deal is yet another plot by the Bush family to enrich their best friends, the Arab oil sheiks and the oil companies, at the expense of hard working American union workers
    • He's really short, you know
  • The Washington Examiner's Bill Sammon (roundtable)
    • Sammon will try to point out the lies of the MSM this week, particularly the Katrina video and the rigged CBS poll, but Steffy will only be interested in finding more dirt about Bush from Sammon's book
  • ABC News' George Will. (roundtable)
    • George Will hates the Bush family - he will prove it yet again this week
  • Stephen Colbert
    • One of the two most professional newsmen on TV - he will talk about the other one who is hosting the Oscars and predict that he will fail (early transcript of this segment mentions this - article linked below)
• ABC This Week comment web page

CNN Late Edition (Wolf Blitzer)

• Meme:
  • Iraq is lost, it's a civil war - It's Bush's Fault™
  • Afghanistan is lost, it's a civil war - It's Bush's Fault™
  • We're giving the terrorists control of our ports - It's Bush's Fault™
  • The wrong people are winning the Presidency in Iraq
• Topics:
  • "With increased scrutiny over the Dubai ports deal, will the delay help push the deal through? We'll have an inside look."
• Guests
  • Gen. James Jones: NATO Supreme Allied Commander
    • General Jones will try to talk about how NATO is succeeding in Afghanistan, but Wolf will emphasize resistance by old Europe to the planned NATO rapid reaction force
  • Adnan Pachachi: Iraqi Parliament member, former Iraqi foreign minister
    • The secular parties are being out maneuvered by the young radical Imams with militias
    • This guy appears to be the New York Times favorite source of quotes about Iraq, so he must be bad news for Bush
• CNN Late Edition (web page for comments)

This is NOT intended to be the live Sunday Morning Talk Show thread. I trust AB will do that as usual. This is strictly a preview of who will be on the main shows. The idea is to give folks a chance to muster their resources for that thread.

I would particularly ask that anyone with specific knowledge or resources about the topics / guests announced for these shows post them here so that the rest of us can go into the shows with a heads up on what to look for.

[Phsstpok]

These are links to recent articles by or about this weeks guests that I think might give a clue as to why they have been invited on this week's shows

• Michael Brown, former FEMA Director (Fox News Sunday)
  • Transcript: Michael Brown on 'FOX News Talks' (Fox News - Tony Snow Show)
  • Brown shouldn't be administration's scapegoat, experts say (San Jose Mercury News)
  • Tape shows Brown sent warnings of disaster (Detroit Free Press)
  • Michael Brown: I Told Ya So (CBS 3)
  • Michael Brown: I was ‘left on the battlefield’ (MSNBC)
• Gen. Wesley Clark (retired) (ABC This Week)
  • From show web page: "on Iraq and his 2008 presidential prospects."
  • Branches and penumbrae (Charlotte Observer, NC)
  • A grand strategy on ending poverty could separate Dems from GOP (The Capital Times, Madison, WI)
  • Bush trips balancing security with free trade (MSNBC)
• Stephen Colbert (ABC This Week Voices)
  • Stephen Colbert’s Bipartisan Outreach Efforts (Wonkette)
  • Colbert Seeks Rapport With GOPers (National Journal)
  • NAMES & FACES (Washington Post)
• Sen. Susan Collins, R-Maine (ABC This Week)
  • Concern about strength of rebuilt New Orleans levees (KVOA.com, AZ)
  • Senators want a say on ports deal (AZ Central.com)
  • Republicans Working Against Santorum (Human Events)
  • Coast Guard gets flak for assessment of ports transaction (NavyTimes)
  • Lawmaker: Port deal never probed for terror ties (CNN)
• John Edwards, Democrat (NBC Meet The Press)
  • From show web page: (co-chairmen discuss) "The Council on Foreign Relations' independent Task Force on Russian-American Relations"
  • Looking Back (and Ahead) With Edwards (Washington Post)
  • Ex-Vice Presidential candidate John Edwards Visits the Heartland (KTVO, MO)
  • John Edwards Visits Iowa City (KCRG, IA)
  • John Edwards supports hotel worker union campaign (WWAY NewsChannel 3, NC)
• Rep. Duncan Hunter, R-Calif. (ABC This Week)
  • Duncan Hunter Warns of Dubai WMD Trade (NewsMax)
  • Key Republican vows to sink ports deal (WIS, SC)
  • US lawmaker vows to scuttle port deal (Aljazeera)
  • On Immigration and Ports, Turning Inward (Washington Post)
• Gen. James Jones: NATO Supreme Allied Commander (CNN Late Edition)
  • Review of European Security Issues (Washington File)
  • Masters of an expanded universe (Guardian Unlimited, UK)
  • Jones Details NATO Missions, Transformation (The Conservative Voice)
  • NATO presence in Afghanistan to expand (UPI)
  • European Self Interest Hobbles NATO's Rapid Response Force (Deutsche Welle, Germany)
• Jack Kemp, Republican (NBC Meet The Press)
  • From show web page: (co-chairmen discuss) "The Council on Foreign Relations' independent Task Force on Russian-American Relations"
  • "Free markets are the best aid to Israel" (Globes, Israel)
  • Pundits Part Company With Bush on Dubai Deal (New York Sun)
  • Great Power Politics: India's ying and Russia's yang (DemocracyArsenal.org)
• Sen. Richard Lugar, R-Ind. (CBS Face The Nation)
  • Indo-US Nuclear Pact to Enter Rough Seas in Washington (Asian Tribune, Thailand)
  • Nuke deal: US stands divided amid protests (Deccan Herald, India)
  • It’s over to you Mr Bush (Hindustan Times)
  • US Senate calls for NATO involvement in Darfur peacekeeping (Sudan Tribune, Sudan)
  • State Dept.: Iran Has Itself to Blame (Washington Post)
  • Nuclear power dilemma for Bush in India (San Francisco Chronicle)
  • Misplaced budget priorities (Fort Wayne Journal Gazette, IN)
• Rep. John Murtha, D-Pa. (CBS Face The Nation)
  • Rep. John Murtha: Is the World Safer Today? (Yahoo! News)
  • Top General in Iraq: Civil War Not Likely (AINA, CA)
  • The Commander in Chief Has Lost the Troops (Antiwar.com)
  • Spy chief calls threat from port deal low (CNN International)
• Gen. Peter Pace,  Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff (Fox News Sunday, NBC Meet The Press)
  • Gen. Peter Pace: UAE a 'Superb' Ally (NewsMax)
  • Governors worry over funding of National Guard (The Register-Guard, Oregon)
  • Governors concerned about National Guard, ports (Washington Post)
  • Insurgency attacks down from last year (Pentagram, DC)
• Adnan Pachachi: Iraqi Parliament member, former Iraqi foreign minister (CNN Late Edition)
  • Iraq tensions flare up anew as 19 Shiites brutally murdered (Daily Star - Lebanon)
  • Religious Strife Shows Strength of Iraq Militias (New York Times)
  • Younger Clerics Showing Power in Iraq's Unrest (New York Times)
  • Sectarian Killings Shatter Brief Calm of Iraqi Curfew (New York Times)
  • Radical Cleric Helps Iraqi Prime Minister Retain Post (New York Times)
• Robert Reich, former Labor Secretary (ABC This Week roundtable)
  • AFL-CIO to help Democrats in key Arizona races (Phoenix Business Journal)
  • US High Court Tackles Corporate Tax Breaks (Forbes)
  • Oil prices will remain high, former labor secretary says (Alaskajournal.com)
  • The Shame Game (FrontPage magazine)
• Michael Rubin, a former U.S. official in Iraq now at the American Enterprise Institute - (Journal Editorial Report)
  • Are We Playing for Keeps? (American Enterprise Institute) - note, article is directly on the issue being discussed and a version ran in the WSJ
  • Hitting Mark on Wrong Iranian Target Doesn't Help Cause (NCR-Iran.org, UK)
  • Sectarianism, Violence, and the Future of Iraq (ThreatsWatch.Org)
• Bill Sammon, The Washington Examiner (ABC This Week roundtable)
  • Washington Reporter Bill Sammon Offers Revelations in New Book (Editor & Publisher)
  • Sammon Excoriates Media on Katrina Video: “Journalistic Fraud (NewsBusters)
  • Bush: Bin Laden helped out (Media Channel, NY)
  • Bush Hails Blogosphere (Power Line)
  • WT's Sammon Leaps To Examiner (mediabistro.com)
• George Will (ABC This Week roundtable)
  • Facing the facts (TownHall.com)
  • George Will: “This Is A Civil War” (Think Progress)
  • Robert Schlesinger: George Will blasts WH (Yahoo! News)

   

   

   

 

[Phsstpok]

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[MHGinTN]

I have discovered something wonderful because of my travels and recent flu bout: not getting to watch the lying lamestream democrap party/societal engineering media shills on Sunday makes for emotional healthy! Listening to liars and lickspittlists like Gorged Steponallofus and L'il Timmy Rustbucket makes for emotional dissonance during the following week. With the father in Legends Of The Fall, I say "Screw 'Um", they've lost their deception covers!

[Miss Marple]

Senator Lugar (my only Republican senator...sigh) still thinks he should have been president. He thinks he is THE expert in foreign policy, and resents the fact that since is no longer the spokesperson for Republican views on foreign policy (since 2001 that has been the Bush administration) he doesn't get on TV as much. He knows the only way he can get on these shows is to carp about the President, and he is happy to oblige.

I also think he is getting senile.

The best he will do is damning with faint praise.

This is from someone who didn't have enough sense to re-schedule his announcement of his presidential candidacy in 1995 when the Oklahoma City bombing occurred. He went ahead with his celebratory announcement and press conference while they were still trying to find survivors in the Murrah Building!

Extremely self-centerd and increasingly clueless, I imagine that Lugar will trash the President. It doesn't matter to him that this outrages his constituents. He thinks he is senator for life.

[Morgan in Denver]

Defining questions. How did he vote on Bill Clinton's impeachment trial in the senate? How did he vote on Campaign Finance Reform and other important issues?

[Miss Marple]

For impeachment, and for CFR. He is not easily pigeonholed, because his motivation in the last few years has mainly been sour grapes, as far as I can tell.

He is more conservative than Snowe or Collins, but is unpredictable.

I honestly think he is getting as senile as Jimmy Carter.

[Morgan in Denver]

Thanks. I found the same thing looking it up. All I can say on Lugar is he seems to be about as clueless as Joe Biden over foreign affairs. I guess you're "unpredictable" descripiton is the most accurate one that can be applied.

[Txsleuth]

I am on my way out for an hour or so...but, I had to remark on the planned appearances of Lugar and Murtha on the same show...

Forgive me MM...I know he is your Senator...but, I would rename the show the "Looney Tunes Show"...for the day.

[Diver Dave]

I notice that none of the programs have plans to discuss the AP court decision re: release of Gitmo terrorist names. A big victory for the MSM in their continuing attempts to tarnish the Bush administration.

After reading the AP article in our local newspaper, it causes me to wonder, has AP opened the proverbial can of worms?

Names offer glimpse into top-secret prison

From the article...The Pentagon released the documents after a federal judge rejected arguments by the administration of President Bush that releasing names, home countries and other information would violate the detainees' privacy and could endanger them and their families.

This judge, rules that releasing information would not violate privacy or endanger the terrorist's families.

The question I raise in regard to the can of worms, does this open the door for the release of names in, say for example, The Barrett Report? Or perhaps all the redacted or suppressed info regarding Waco, TWA800, Vince Foster, Able Danger ... the list goes on.

I for one, want all the information available pertaining to the corruption of the past administration.

[Morgan in Denver]

The Sunday shows don't always get new news. However, I would bet most of the round tables will comment on the AP story that gave the misinformation concerning the levee's in New Orleans.

[Bahbah]

Wonderful collection. I am still reading through it. I just wanted to tell you how much I enjoyed the editorial comment: He's really, really short. LOL.

[Morgan in Denver]

Phsstpok,

Thanks for the heads up and post. Although, this week I'm under whelmed. The usual drumbeat of Bush Lied and it's Bush's Fault are just mind numbing. We'll probably watch FNC to see who gets to b!tch slap Juan Williams, and what the current DNC talking points are, and to hear Brit Hume if he's back. Unless some bomb shell crops up, it does not appear to be a good weekend for the Sunday shows.

Wesley Clark should not be allowed on any program anywhere. The man is an idiot and almost got us into war with Russia in Bosnia/Kosovo. He was tied in with Janet Reno at Waco and he's consorted with the enemy in the past. It's people like Clark that made the military makeover harder than it had to be and he still does not get it as to what the military is supposed to be today.

Jack Kemp is a disappointment and his so-called economic expertise is really over rated. Kemp can read talking points but I've never heard him talk about something he has not been prepped for where he's been able to explain it in economic terms. He can parrot the words but he fails to understand the meaning or logic.

Susan Collins is on because she's competing with Olympia Snow as Snow basks in her current fifteen minutes of fame as a committee chairwoman.

John Edwards is the most unlikely presidential candidate that he's in a dream world if he thinks he has a prayer of getting his parties nomination.

Duncan Hunter is good, but who wants to watch George Will or Stephanopoulos on another Bush Bash rampage?

Murtha? Someone must have woke him up and turned the key.

Michael Brown? He's gone but provides input that exonerates President Bush in the AP fantasy story from this past week.

General Peter Pace is good but I doubt he'll say much that Freepers don't already know.

Senator Lugar? After everyone gags some idiot host will ask him if he's running for President. He isn't but he sure likes to hear people ask him. Makes him feel important.

Robert Reich? If there is a more worthless example of the Clinton cabinet who won't go away I don't know who it is. The man is a dedicated socialist, actually more of a communist, and someone's giving him a forum? After Jocelyn Elders wanting masturbation for kindergarteners, Reich is totally worthless.

[Freee-dame]

Bush made a very important foreign policy trip - did anyone notice?

not the MSM. Their lack of coverage both as it was happening and on tomorrow's talk shows is what enables someone like Dick Morris to say that Bush's low poll numbers are due to his "laziness."

[Morgan in Denver]

Since General Pace is on, this information may be of interest. I may also post it tomorrow for those who miss it today.

Before people start the never ending second guessing, perhaps it would be a good idea to read what we're doing now and why.

The importance of this is that it debunks the complaints from Democrats, the media, the left, and some Republicans, concerning More Boots On The Ground complaints. The people who are complaining about too few troops must not have gotten the memo as to what changes have been going on with the military, their structure and purpose and why this is being done. It also explains why retired Army brass is so adamantly opposed to the changes: they lose some of their power and have to change the way they wage war.

One of the few who "get's it" is retired General Tommy Franks. In his book, Tommy Franks not only explains what is going on but why and how it's better than what's been done in the past. No, General Franks does not address the issue directly. He provides the changes made explanation and talks about the effectiveness and benefits these changes produced. For example, Franks writes about how he equipped his artillery unit with two-way radios so they could communicate with each other in Germany. He goes on to tell how his unit out performed expectations because of it. By extension, that's the type of thing technology represents to our units in the field. Franks also goes in-depth on troop strength and results for the war in Iraq.


Quadrennial Defense Review (If nothing else, read the Forward.)
http://www.defenselink.mil/pubs/qdr2001.pdf

The Heritage Foundation has better overall information for us here.
http://www.heritage.org/Research/Features/NationalSecurity/index.cfm

CFR opinions
http://www.cfr.org/publication/9796/

The Washington Post is no friend of the military but the analysis shows what is going on.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/02/03/AR2006020301853.html

Criticisms, but the debate is over. Elections have meaning and either President Bush and Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld are correct, or people like the Project for Defense Alternatives are. I list this for understanding more of the issue, but it is not persuasive in changing my mind on the best concepts for defending our nation and interests.
http://www.comw.org/pda/0602bm36.html with the main site being http://www.comw.org/qdr/

The blame Bush alternative crowd seems to be here.
http://www.americanprogress.org/site/pp.asp?c=biJRJ8OVF&b=1370419

[demkicker]

LOL, brilliant!

[Txsleuth]

Hey, gang...TONY SNOW on Beltway Boys RIGHT NOW!

[Bahbah]

LOL. I just rushed to the computer to ping a few people.

[mystery-ak]

I have it on.....come on Tony, mention how bogus these polls are.....

[MNJohnnie]

My Email to the Junk Journalists, Talking Head Idiots and Gutless Congress Critters.

To Whom it may Concern:

Ok Time AGAIN, for the facts. You can get the information on Container Security at the link below Click on the link at the top of the thread to see the OFFICAL facts, not the make believe talking points and other nonsense of the Port Deal Critics.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1590048/posts

We scan 100% of the containers coming into the US for radiation all ready. That information has been pointed out to the critics repeatedly. We ONLY NEED to physically inspect about 6% of Containers because of security concerns. It is fraudulent to claim we "only search 3-6% of containers. IF we needed to, we could search more.

The Terminal Operator controls NOTHING about the shipment but it's physical location at any given moment. That is true of any freight handler be it trucking, air freight or port terminal. The Bills of Ladeing are controlled BY THE SHIPPER as well as the RECEIVER and must go thru Customs. You do NOT let the shipper contol the Purchase Order/Shipment manifest because it is a legal document which once the reciving party signs legally obligates them to pay. Letting the Bill be handled by the Freight Handler would create the easiest possibility to steal. They simply would alter the shipment documents and pocket a portion of each shipment. Thus the Shipper could not PROVE they shipped it and would have no ability to compel payment because the Receiver never signed for it. Legally until the Receiver SIGNS for the freight it belongs TO THE SHIPPER, NOT the Port Terminal or other Freight Handlers. Because of the ability of Port Termanal, Truck Companies and others to misroute, steal or lose Freingt what they pick up and what they deliver is monitored by everyone involved. That is basic business. If you sign for 8000 cases and only got 6000, YOU are LEGALLY liably for those missing 2000 cases. The original Shipper gets paid based on what you sign for, NOT what they say they shipped. It is NOT easy to add or subtract things from shipments as the Port Terminal Hysterics keep screaming. That too, is another of their lies.

The level of RABID ignorance here is simply inexcusable. The United States is giving NOTHING away. Two weeks into this story it is utterly inexcusable for anyone to be this rabidly ignorant. Here are the facts. A PRIVATE company, P&O is selling it Port Terminal Operations. A company Called Dubai Port World is BUYING that private company. Part of what they are acquiring is 9 terminal leases, out of 300, in 6 US Ports. 9 out of 300 GET IT? The US Govt is giving NOTHING away. They have NOTHING to do with the deal. They CANNOT require the leases be granted to some other company. All they can do is REJECT this or that company from getting the leases. Then P&O would either have to find a different buyer OR Dubai Port World will simply sue. Either way, the same American Dock Workers, the same American Clerks, Truck Drivers, Gate Guards, Office Workers, Cleaning Crews etc etc etc etc who NOW work of P&O will switch to getting their checks from Dubai Port World. Some Stock Holders and upper level management will change. The name on the outside of the building will change, the Labor Unions will have to negotiate new contracts (which is why they do NOT want this deal to go thru) and that is about ALL that will change. No misstatements, distortions and lies about "Running our Port" "Compromising Port Security", "Access to Sensitive Military Cargo Shipments" or any of the other utterly stupid nonsense being spewed by the critics is going to change the FACTS.

Those are the FACTS. That is not White House Spin, RNC Talking Points and all the other stupid nonsense being screamed to drown out the FACTS. Time for people to grow up and LEARN the facts. How can people capable of using a computer be so utterly IGNORANT of the facts of this matter after 2 weeks? There must be a genetic element. Some Invincible Stupidity Shield gene that keeps people from being able to absorb even ONE fact about this topic. The display of panic, hysteric, bigotry and ignorance on the part of some of the Port Deal Hysterics is inexcusable.

[Txsleuth]

He didn't mention the polls as being bogus..and he certainly didn't seem very optomistic that President Bush can "overcome" those poll numbers...

Fred Barnes would have argued a little more with Mort, I think.

[Txsleuth]

Did anyone happen to see the "debate" between Martin Frost and John Kasich...earlier this afternoon??

[MNJohnnie]

Yeah. Here is a challenge for the Establishment Media. Cut out the "indepenedent" and do a 40% Self Identified Democrat, 40% Self Identified Republican 10% Leans Democrat. 10% Leans Democrat poll of LIKELY voters who have voted ONE Of the Last 3 elections. (2004-2002-2002). To pin down their party id, ask them who they voted for. This adding more and more Democrats to the sample ratio and claming (well more people registter as Democrats or more people told us they were Democrats) is slime bag PR trick NOT sound polling Methodoloy. The ONLY reason any pollster overweights a sample is to slant the result to a predetermined outcome. Changing the data because you WANT a particular headline is the same as lying. It is Journalistic Malpractise. What they are doing is adding more and more Democrats respondents until they get the predetermined result they want. It is Junk Science.

Here is a challange I would make to the "pollsters" Reverse the respondent ratio to poll favor the Republicans the same way the current polls (including Fox's did) -repoll LIKELY voters only and come back and talk to us. This poll data is garbage.

[ScreamingFist]

MNJonnie is a troll!

[Phsstpok]

Homina?

Homina homina?

[MNJohnnie]

Anyone else notice that G Will, and most of the Talk Radio Hosts have gotten extremely lazy and just echo the garbage in the Failed Media? I suspect that some of the younger host, and the more Establishment Pundits and Columnists have been co-opted by the Establishment Media Culture.

They seem less and less able to voice anything but an echo of the talking points in the failed Media. They should take a lesson from Rush Limbaugh who is very very very slow to jump on the Establishment Press's band wagon du jour. These PEOPLE ARE NOT YOUR FRIENDS. NRO, Laura, Ann, Michelle, Sean, Townhall et al. You would be wise to not get sucker in by the emails, party invitations, lunch dates etc. WE, not them, brought you to the dance. We made you, NOT vise versa.

[MNJohnnie]

S. F., Ignorance does NOT change to fact just because you scream it over and over and louder and louder. The facts do NOT change because YOU find reality painful and wish it were different. We are adults, we deal with the world as it is, not as we wish it would be. Denying a painful reality and clinging to a state of ignorance is the behavior of a child.

Sorry you cling to your Economic Imbecility. No one here has any desire to waste time trying to pry open a welded shut mind.

[ScreamingFist]

You're a troll.

[ScreamingFist]

MNjokie has been spamming threads for weeks, it's a troll baby...

[MNJohnnie]

If you wish to continue this conversation, I suggest you send Freeper Mail to me. If you continue to annoy the people in the 6 spepearate threads you went to in the last 4 mins to post the same personal hissy fit directed at me, the Moderators will be involked sooner rather then later. You have one chance at this. I strongly suggest you take it.

[Phsstpok]

silliest damn thing I've seen posted in quite some time

[ScreamingFist]

If you wish to continue this conversation,

What conversation? You've spammed every thread I've been on in the last 4 days? You're a troll.

[Admin Moderator]

To whom it may concern, please knock off the personal stuff.

[Phsstpok]

Please stop the personal attacks

Talk about the topic of the thread or go away.

I don't care which

[MNJohnnie]

I will ask you one last time, they I suggest P you have the Moderator made the resquest a bit more forcefully as the thread host. SF, either Freeper Mail me or drop it. Do not continuing this nonsense.

[ScreamingFist]

Fair enough. Apply the same standard to other posters on this thread and you'll understand why I'm upset....

[MNJohnnie]

Nonsense. I have asked you nicely to take this outdoors. You seem bound and determine to get a zot.

[ScreamingFist]

The weekend talk show preview thread is posted If you would like on or off the ping list for this thread please freepmail me

I don't watch much TV, so really cannot make any rational comments, but I am sorry for disrupting your thread....so I'll just bump it instead.

Bump!

[Txsleuth]

I for one, have been very upset about the release of those names...it sets a bad precedent...and believe it or not, I do worry that family members could be in jeopardy.

BUT, more than anything, I hate that WAR is now being fought through the court system, not the battlefield.

[Txsleuth]

So far, you have pretty much summed up the prospects tomorrow..

I am sure Peter Pace will be asked about the new Al-Zawahiri tape...sigh. He will be asked if he fears the BIG ATTACK that is being planned for Iraq supposedly...sigh.

I DO hope he is asked point blank about the Dubai Ports deal..because he is FOR it..and, not just because he is for it...but, as military, I am sure he is privy to information that we don't know, that would lead him to make that decision.

[Dutchgirl]

George Will and Bill Sammon on the same ABC show? What's up with that? Usually it takes three to one to make a "balanced" discussion on ABC and one of the lefty's is usually Katrina van den hovel

[Morgan in Denver]

As active military, General Pace will work really hard to avoid taking sides if at all possible. IMHO

[Phsstpok]

George Will and Bill Sammon on the same ABC show? What's up with that? Usually it takes three to one to make a "balanced" discussion on ABC and one of the lefty's is usually Katrina van den hovel

It is 3 to 1 and Sammon is the one.  George Will has a personal hatred for the Bush family that is becoming more and more of an obsession.  He is a harsher critic of this administration than Katrina van den Hostle and almost as harsh as MoDo

[Phsstpok]

Mark Kilmer's regular preview post over at RedState.COM

Who's on the Sunday Morning Talk Shows

By: Mark Kilmer · Section: Other Politics

For Sunday, March 5, 2006

Meet the Press (NBC): Host Tim Russert had better listen to Joint Chiefs Chairman General Pete Pace, USMC. Then he'll chat it up with Jack Kemp and John Edwards about their new report on Russia. (Doesn't this strike you as so Russert? Two has-been politicos -- sorry, Jack, but... -- discussing a once-was country.)

FOX News Sunday: Host Chris Wallace will also talk to General Pace. Then, brace yourselves for a conversation with Brownie!

Face the Nation (CBS): Host Bob Schieffer will talk to Dick Lugar and Jack Murtha, and gawd I hope they're on the show simultaneously

This Week (ABC): Host George Stephanopoulos's show looks like it will be a stand against them A-rabs. His guests, to discuss the "port contoversy," will be Susie Collins and Duncan Hunter. Yikes! He'll also have Wes Clark on to chat.

Late Edition (CNN): Host Wolf Blitzer will talk to NATO's Supreme Allied Commander, General James Jones, USMC, and Iraqi Member of Parliament Adnan Pachachi:, who once was foreign minister and UN ambassador before Saddam took over in '68. In his eighties, he resembles a U.S. Senator. Not any in particular; he's got the look.
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No Biden. No McCain. We love Pete Pace! The highlight will be if Murtha and Lugar appear on the same stage at the same time, but I seriously doubt if Murtha dares. Collins and Hunter on TW will be ugly, and I'm beginnng to forget who Wes Clark was.

I'll watch the show and put my notes live here at RedState.com at some point before or after 2p ET.

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[Txsleuth]

Do you think he will be asked his opinion about the Pentagon being forced to release those names?

[Txsleuth]

I am glad you have noticed that about George Will....I thought it was just me.

I put him in the same catagory as Robert Novak and Pat Buchanan, Tucker Carlson, Joe Scarborough...so-called conservatives...who make it their goal to find fault in President Bush whenever possible.

[Txsleuth]

Thanks for that post...

I don't think Murtha will be on with Lugar....I don't think I have ever seen Murtha on with someone else...even though Lugar will probably agree with everything that Murtha says...yuck!

I am sure that Biden will call Lugar tonight and tell him what to say anyway.

[Morgan in Denver]

I don't think so. If asked he will avoid it or say it's not in his area of responsibility.

[Txsleuth]

Oh...that is right, his position is a political, diplomatic position....must not make waves.

[Txsleuth]

That post from Redstate??

Your pre-view put his to SHAME!!! His was okay...but yours is just so much more informative...and complete!

You never cease to amaze me, phsstpok!

[Diver Dave]

BUT, more than anything, I hate that WAR is now being fought through the court system, not the battlefield.

The MSM has been fighting the WAR in the press since the beginning, and were one to believe all their editorializing, defeat of the coalition forces is just around the corner.

And, like you say, they've now take it to the courts, no doubt judge-shopping in the process.

Thank God for our troops on the ground who are doing the actual fighting. To stay abreast of what's really happening, I read a daily blog our nephew writes from the sandbox.