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Venezuelan Middle Class Flees Chavez Rule Of Hate
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 3-5-2006 | Sophie Arie

Posted on 03/04/2006 5:39:49 PM PST by blam

Venezuelan middle class flees Chávez rule of hate

By Sophie Arie in Caracas
(Filed: 05/03/2006)

Venezuela's once-thriving middle class is packing its bags and fleeing the country, afraid for the future as the socialist president, Hugo Chávez, calls on the slum-dwelling masses to rise up and seize wealth from those better off than themselves.

Growing numbers of professionals, business owners and shopkeepers are fed up with the climate of hostility that the Left-wing president has encouraged in his effort to boost his populist credentials.

President Hugo Chávez

María Carolina García was blowing up helium balloons in her party-decorations shop in Caracas one day when two customers asked her how much they cost.

"When I told them the price, which was just a few dollars, they started yelling at me that it was far too much," Mrs García recalled. "You're a thief! You're all thieves! You just came to this country to steal from the poor," the men shouted before marching out of the shop.

Mrs García, 46, a mother of two whose parents emigrated to Venezuela to escape the Spanish civil war and made a new life as jewellers, was upset. But it was nothing new.

"Ever since Hugo Chávez was elected [in 1998] he has been fomenting hatred for those who have, among those who have not. 'Rich is bad.' That's his message. So the people who follow him have decided it's not just the world's superpower they hate, it's people like me too."

Mrs García said her parents were prepared to emigrate again as they see the same kind of autocracy, blind political allegiance and hatred in society that they saw in Spain years ago. They are gathering the documents that the entire family needs to claim Spanish citizenship, ready for the day they have to flee.

Many Venezuelans complain of the government's increasing control of the media and intimidation of opposition supporters. People report that their middle-class appearance leads to their being robbed, kidnapped or spat at.

The streets of Caracas have always been rife with crime but in recent years the city centre has become seedier, with homeless people sleeping alongside piles of rotting rubbish by blackened walls.

"It's never been a really safe city," said Mrs García, joining a queue outside the Spanish embassy with her identity papers. "But different people walked happily alongside each other not so long ago. I have never felt as threatened as I do now."

Since Mr Chávez, a former paratrooper and close ally of Fidel Castro, the Cuban president, was elected promising a 21st-century socialist revolution and making fiery anti-American speeches, the lines outside the foreign consulates have been growing.

Demand for Venezuelan passports is reported to be so high that the Chávez government has rationed the number of requests it can handle per day, pleading a shortage of passport-making materials.

Professionals, businessmen and women and educated office workers are seeking visas for countries such as Australia, Canada, Spain and Britain. Those with emigrant ancestry are asserting their rights to European passports.

There are no official figures and government supporters deny that anyone is leaving, but most middle-class people questioned by the Sunday Telegraph on the streets said that at least half their friends had left since Mr Chávez came to office.

Vanessa Bertran, 32, who works in public relations, said she would be sad to leave but could see her country going only backwards. She is moving to Canada as soon as her visa comes through.

"If you're middle class or you don't vote for Chávez, you find it's harder and harder to get ahead in life," she said. "Doors keep closing. It's hard to get credit at the bank let alone a job in the state sector. They are squeezing us out."

Marcial Rivera, a 30-year-old business graduate, packed his bags and left for neighbouring Colombia this week. He believes that it is a more stable place to live, despite its own huge problems. "I'm all torn up," he said. "I would like to stay but I don't want to be here when the big bang comes and I think it will be very soon."

Mr Chávez's supporters seem untroubled by the exodus, arguing that if the well-off are leaving it is simply to avoid paying higher taxes to provide benefits for the poor.

"He has united the country," said María Calderón, a middle-aged maid working in the smart Las Mercedes district. "He knows what it is to be poor. It is the first time we've had a leader on our side."


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: chavez; class; classenvy; communism; flees; hate; hugochavez; hugoping; middle; rule; socialistutopia; venezuela; venezuelan
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Atlas is beginning to shrug down south.
1 posted on 03/04/2006 5:39:51 PM PST by blam
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To: blam

We need to take the gloves off and do what he accuses of doing.

Pushing him out of power.

Shove him, if necessary.


2 posted on 03/04/2006 5:44:36 PM PST by Dammit
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To: blam

It is sad to see another country being destroyed by socialism. If the productive Middle and Upper Classes leave the country, Venezuela will become another socialist "paradise" like Cuba.
Pinochet, for all his faults saved Chile from the same thing, perhaps there is a Venezuelan Pinochet?


3 posted on 03/04/2006 5:45:47 PM PST by GeorgefromGeorgia
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To: blam


'Rich is bad.'

Millionaire liberal Democrats have been saying this for years.

Think the masses will turn against millionaire Hugo Chavez?


4 posted on 03/04/2006 5:46:19 PM PST by Tzimisce (How Would Mohammed Vote? Hillary for President!)
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To: blam
Marcial Rivera, a 30-year-old business graduate, packed his bags and left for neighbouring Colombia this week.

You know your country is circling the drain when people are fleeing to Colombia for prosperity and stability.

5 posted on 03/04/2006 5:46:56 PM PST by inkling
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To: blam
Wow; an article from the mainstream press that doesn't put Chavez on a pedestal. Almost frightening. But Chavez is pretty low down the list right now. In a year or three when he gets nuclear weapons, then we'll have to deal with him, because that's how the whole idiocy works.

Of course, Chavez will declare himself president for life first.
6 posted on 03/04/2006 5:49:08 PM PST by kingu (Liberalism: The art of sticking your fingers in your ears and going NANANANA..)
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To: blam

The only things that surprise me are:
That it didn't start much sooner;
That it hasn't collapsed into TOTAL chaos by now.


7 posted on 03/04/2006 5:49:26 PM PST by LegendHasIt
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To: blam

"Visit Scenic Venezuela: A Little Touch of Zimbabwe in South America!"


8 posted on 03/04/2006 5:50:04 PM PST by Dont Mention the War (This tagline is false.)
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To: blam
"Ever since Hugo Chávez was elected [in 1998] he has been fomenting hatred for those who have, among those who have not. 'Rich is bad.' That's his message. So the people who follow him have decided it's not just the world's superpower they hate, it's people like me too."

Sounds like the Democratic Party.

9 posted on 03/04/2006 5:52:23 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: GeorgefromGeorgia

Before our oil workers leave, they need to sabotage the place.


10 posted on 03/04/2006 5:54:25 PM PST by kittymyrib
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To: blam

The Zimbabwe of South America?


11 posted on 03/04/2006 5:55:16 PM PST by jimfree (Freep and ye shall find.)
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To: Tzimisce
Demand for Venezuelan passports is reported to be so high that the Chávez government has rationed the number of requests it can handle per day, pleading a shortage of passport-making materials.

Why doesn't he just build a wall around his country? And why are these people waiting for passports?

12 posted on 03/04/2006 5:55:23 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: blam
"When I told them the price, which was just a few dollars, they started yelling at me that it was far too much," Mrs García recalled. "You're a thief! You're all thieves! You just came to this country to steal from the poor," the men shouted before marching out of the shop

They sound like some of the economic "geniuses" on FR.

13 posted on 03/04/2006 5:57:20 PM PST by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: blam
'Rich is bad.'

Sounds familliar. This has long been a mantra of the Left here as well.

Years ago, an Indian (American, not Asian) lady I knew sat at my kitchen table drinking coffee and railing about "the rich white man". I let her spool on for a while, waiting for specifics, but it was the same programmed bit.

I knew she worked in social services, but had thought her an exception to the ordinary knee jerk programmed social serpent (there are a rare few). I graciously offered her a refill, and then asked her "Say, just who the F*ck is this rich white man anyway? Do I know him? I'm white and I'm not rich."

The whole schpiel fell apart right there. (So did any shot at a relationship, but I had seen that writing on the wall from other things).

Unfortunately, the MSM and just about any source of victim enablement doctrine has been pushing this same socialist 'class' envy for a long time. It naturally falls in with a tendency to be envious of others' accomplishments by those who refuse to accept any of the blame for their own lack of achievement.

The media even use that same line of groupthink against corporations which are successful: "Big" Tobacco, oil, steel, etc.

Chavez will use it to mercilessly exploit the poorest, as any socialist dictator would.

14 posted on 03/04/2006 5:58:48 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: Dammit
"We need to take the gloves off and do what he accuses of doing."

Have patience.

All in good time.

This isn't like an Iranian nuclear thingy.

Chavez, and the hapless Venezulean majority who support him, will pay the price in time.

15 posted on 03/04/2006 6:00:05 PM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: kingu
Chavez will declare himself president for life first.

Cool! Term limits...

16 posted on 03/04/2006 6:00:56 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: Dane
They sound like some of the economic "geniuses" on FR.

Isn't that the truth. These are people who can't figure out the area of a rectangle, but have no problem at all micromanipulating prices in a multi-trillion dollar economy.

17 posted on 03/04/2006 6:01:15 PM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Bend over and think of England.)
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To: blam

But at least we know that the vote for this guy was fair (Jimmy Carter certified it).


18 posted on 03/04/2006 6:03:42 PM PST by kcar ( Who is Juan Galt and can he turn the factory machinery on?)
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To: blam

Are these people scattering in all directions, or are they mostly emigrating to a specific place?


19 posted on 03/04/2006 6:05:14 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (Bob Taft for Impeachment)
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To: blam
My ex-wifes family fled Caracas in 1990.. crime was on the rise before Hugo seized power. The problem is his cure is worse than the original problem. My Father-in-law was an engineer at Ford there, and they had to have a 24 hour security guard at their house... and he was NOT rich!
20 posted on 03/04/2006 6:07:13 PM PST by operation clinton cleanup
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To: Dane
Hey at least the Venezualen middle class is actually bothering to apply for passports.

Not like your friends in Mexico who have a God given right to come here any time they please and stay for as long as they like.

L

21 posted on 03/04/2006 6:07:59 PM PST by Lurker (Cuz I got one hand in my pocket and the other one is flipping off a liberal.)
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To: blam
Yes, Atlas is...

King of the Cockroaches

And this thug-hate monger sits on a mainline oil tap...and wants to 'enhance' his civilian domestic nuclear programs...just like his buddies in Iran...

The next 10-20 years are going to be nothing short of monumental and entertaining...

Politics aside...enjoy the history unfolding before your eyes..

Most of us, more than likely, will see the next nuclear bomb detonated in anger...And it is what happens after that, that will determine the fate of the planet as we know it...and mankind..

Fasten your seatbelts darlings...its going to be a bumpy bumpy ride...

22 posted on 03/04/2006 6:08:13 PM PST by antaresequity (PUSH 1 FOR ENGLISH - PUSH 2 TO BE DEPORTED)
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To: blam

Hillary Clinton....south of the border.


23 posted on 03/04/2006 6:08:59 PM PST by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN (Toon Town, Iran...........where reality is the real fantasy.)
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To: blam

****Mr Chávez's supporters seem untroubled by the exodus, arguing that if the well-off are leaving it is simply to avoid paying higher taxes to provide benefits for the poor***

Why should the well off have to pay higher taxes. What is he doing with the oil money? Well of course we know, he is stupidly buying weapons he doesnt need.

Here is a country that should be swimming in wealth, they have oil riches. Its amazing that Chavez has his people convinced that rich people are hurting them while he squanders millions he should be feeding those poor folks with. They must be totally ignorant to fall for this idiots crap.

Maybe Jimmy Carter will ride down and tell them the truth, That they are starving because their leader is a retard, who dreams of being dictator of South America and the Carribbean. I wont hold my breath waiting.


24 posted on 03/04/2006 6:10:46 PM PST by sgtbono2002
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To: blam

Gresham's Law applies to more than just money.


25 posted on 03/04/2006 6:11:28 PM PST by CaptRon (Pedecaris alive or Raisuli dead)
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To: blam

bttt


26 posted on 03/04/2006 6:13:54 PM PST by Chi-townChief
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To: blam
I talked to a young woman from Venezuela last weekend. She was a trained architect and building inspector there, now she is an electrician during the week in the USA and works at a Ross store in the weekend. She has only been in the US 18 months, but her English is remarkably good. She started working as a custodian and is taking classes in English.

She told me how there was no future for members of the middle class in her country. I think she will do well here. She has already broken the code...learn English.

27 posted on 03/04/2006 6:15:37 PM PST by Redleg Duke (Kennedy and Kerry, the two Commissars of the Peoples' Republic of Massachusetts!)
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To: kcar

I have come to the conclusion that Carter is demented.


28 posted on 03/04/2006 6:16:17 PM PST by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: Redleg Duke

Sounds like the Cubans. Castro drove out the middle class so he could rule his slum in peace.


29 posted on 03/04/2006 6:17:45 PM PST by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: CROSSHIGHWAYMAN

Socialist Chavez would make a good Democrat candidate for Congress from the Peoples Republic of Massachusetts, New York, Vermont, California.....I'm sure he's a good liar, demagogue, crook.


30 posted on 03/04/2006 6:18:16 PM PST by pleikumud
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To: RobbyS
I have come to the conclusion that Carter is demented.

Simply .....he has maggots for brains.

31 posted on 03/04/2006 6:20:19 PM PST by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN (Toon Town, Iran...........where reality is the real fantasy.)
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To: inkling

"government supporters deny that anyone is leaving"



32 posted on 03/04/2006 6:23:06 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: CROSSHIGHWAYMAN

Carter has the same thought pattern Chavez has.


33 posted on 03/04/2006 6:23:55 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: blam

if the well-off are leaving it is simply to avoid paying higher taxes to provide benefits for the poor.



Hmmmm.... And that's good?


34 posted on 03/04/2006 6:24:49 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: Dont Mention the War; jimfree
Did someone say Zimbabwe?

Your mission, should you choose to accept it...


35 posted on 03/04/2006 6:26:03 PM PST by Gordongekko909 (I know. Let's cut his WHOLE BODY off.)
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To: Redleg Duke

It's "give us your poor, your hungry, your downtrodden..." time. Except we want Venezuela's middle class instead. The US could use a fresh injection of anti-communist sentiment.


36 posted on 03/04/2006 6:29:57 PM PST by Gordongekko909 (I know. Let's cut his WHOLE BODY off.)
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To: Brilliant

Comical Ali says: "No one is leaving."

37 posted on 03/04/2006 6:31:34 PM PST by Gordongekko909 (I know. Let's cut his WHOLE BODY off.)
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To: blam

"He has united the country," said María Calderón, a middle-aged maid working in the smart Las Mercedes district. "He knows what it is to be poor. It is the first time we've had a leader on our side."


And who shall she be a maid to when the classes are driven
into the country to pick crops?

Ah, the children of the revolution, not first into the maw,
but soon to follow.


38 posted on 03/04/2006 6:32:29 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: blam

He is giving illegal immigrants from Peru, Colombia and Cuban Venezuelan citizenship in order to build more of a base. This is a FACT. Also, he is talking about appropriating homes with 2 or more stories where the residents are not using the upper floors for residence and making that space available for the poor. This man is dangerous.


39 posted on 03/04/2006 6:33:10 PM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: blam
Your comment is very true.

A female friend of mine, upon graduating from college, was greatly fearful of returning to Venezuela.

She had the equivalent of a condo about a mile from the headquarters of their main oil company out of Caracas. She was only here on a student visa and was fearful of the chaos her family had told her had occurred in the prior year there. There were rumors that the borders were going to be locked down and no one was going to be able to leave. I guess this article states otherwise.

People were being encouraged to just do whatever they wanted. Trucks and cars were being torches because of the general state of anarchy being encouraged. She didn't expect to be able to return to her condo. It was far safer, she said, to live with her parents again.

Unfortunately, her degree is a highly coveted business degree. To have gotten this advanced degree from the US on a US visa has left her marked for life under these conditions.

She is working in a government office, but I believe she is under constant watch by both authorities and peasants.
40 posted on 03/04/2006 6:33:46 PM PST by ConservativeMind
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To: blam

We know the next few verses of this song. We learned them in 1917. The middle class had better get out, or their song will be a funeral hymn.


41 posted on 03/04/2006 6:41:48 PM PST by Capriole (The Anti-Feminist)
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To: kittymyrib; jimfree

The oil workers won't need to sabotage. FDI will dry up and the place will slowly fall into ruin. In ten years it will turn in a Zimbabwe.


42 posted on 03/04/2006 6:42:28 PM PST by GeorgefromGeorgia
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To: blam

and
Hugo Chavez
as
El Castor

43 posted on 03/04/2006 6:50:55 PM PST by uglybiker (Don't blame me. I didn't make you stupid.)
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To: blam

If Danny Glover, Harry Belefonte, Barbara Streisand, Michael Moore and Hugo Chavez all lived in modest $80,000 houses and gave the rest of their money away to others I would then respect them.
I wouldn't agree with them but I would respect them.
Since they don't I call them ludicrous holier than thou hypocrites.


44 posted on 03/04/2006 6:56:00 PM PST by cjmae
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To: inkling

"You know your country is circling the drain when people are fleeing to Colombia for prosperity and stability."

There are some sentences that you have to repeat to yourself a few time to make sure you heard it right.

I'm moving to Colombia for prosperity and stability. I'm moving to Colombia for prosperity and stability.

No, still does not sound right.


45 posted on 03/04/2006 7:06:10 PM PST by ndt
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To: blam
Image hosted by Photobucket.com Atlas Puked... Tax the Rich, feed the poor tax them till there are no more!!!
46 posted on 03/04/2006 7:07:52 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: kcar
"Jimmy Carter certified it"

In all honesty, it probably was on the up and up. Venezuela has a huge underclass and by and large, they love him. Whats not to like when you get stuff and someone else had to pay? Sometimes people really do make dumb choices.
47 posted on 03/04/2006 7:12:39 PM PST by ndt
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To: Redleg Duke
She told me how there was no future for members of the middle class in her country.

Doesn't sound like there's much of a future for anybody at all, be they poor, middle-class, or rich.

48 posted on 03/04/2006 7:17:21 PM PST by John Jorsett (scam never sleeps)
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To: Brilliant
"Sounds like the Democratic Party."

I had the same thoughts as I read this. Democrats left unchecked would rapidly turn us into the same kind of hell hole.

49 posted on 03/04/2006 7:17:43 PM PST by TheLion
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To: ndt

In all honesty, I don't know but I doubt it. ANyway, Carter certifying does zero to ensure me that it's so.


50 posted on 03/04/2006 7:52:06 PM PST by kcar ( Common DUKE!)
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