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Hey Neighbor, Stop Piggybacking on My Wireless
New York Times ^ | 3/5/06 | MICHEL MARRIOTT

Posted on 03/04/2006 11:44:18 PM PST by conservative in nyc

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To: Powerclam

It's not wrong at all. You're being naive.

Anyone who wants it can google up the WEP crack and break in. It can be done in three minutes.

If you are relying on WEP, you are a fool.


41 posted on 03/05/2006 12:31:03 AM PST by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: Dont Mention the War

"This sort of imbecility is what paases for"

Not all executives are tech "weenies".

And, just in case you did'nt notice, stealing is still a crime...even if the victim is unaware of the theft.


42 posted on 03/05/2006 12:31:54 AM PST by CBart95
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To: conservative in nyc

I have a Linksys WPC11 and I've never been able to make it work under any conditions. If I run it in AdHoc mode, I'm getting a signal, but can't ping anybody.

Course my understanding of microsoft networking is almost nonexistent. Bring back VTAM!!!


43 posted on 03/05/2006 12:33:22 AM PST by djf (I'm not Islamophobic. But I am bombophobic! If that's the same, freakin deal with it!)
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To: Powerclam

self ping for later.


44 posted on 03/05/2006 12:33:34 AM PST by MonroeDNA (Look for the union label--on the bat crashing through your windshield!)
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To: Echo Talon
Im on my laptop right now in the kitchen, and i have the option of 4 different wireless connections right now! LOL!

Damn! Why don't I have neighbors like that? I just got a laptop and was cruising around for an unprotected connection. I can't believe that none of my neighbors, several of whom work for MS up here in Seattle, don't have a connection - since they work for MS, I was pretty sure it would be unprotected. : )

45 posted on 03/05/2006 12:36:49 AM PST by radiohead (Hey Kerry, I'm still here; still hating your lying, stinking guts, you coward.)
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To: Private_Sector_Does_It_Better
I prefer MAC address registering.

From http://www.cs.umd.edu/~waa/wireless.pdf:

4.2 Ethernet MAC Address Access Control Lists

In theory, access control lists provide a reasonable level of security when a strong form of identity is used. Unfortunately, this is not the case with MAC addresses for two reasons. First, MAC addresses are easily sniffed by an attacker since they MUST appear in the clear even when WEP is enabled, and second most all of the wireless cards permit the changing of their MAC address via software. As a result, an attacker can easily determine the MAC addresses permitted access via eavesdropping, and then subsequently masquerade as a valid address by programming the desired address into the wireless card– by-passing the access control and gaining access to the “protected” network.

46 posted on 03/05/2006 12:36:59 AM PST by TChad
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To: Echo Talon

Freepmail in code could probably go on for quite a while until someone in a suit knocked on Jim Rob's door asking to look at the system.


47 posted on 03/05/2006 12:38:14 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: garylmoore

I don't think its stealing, its barrowing something that they can never use again, their bandwith at that exact moment. The only person being hurt is the service provider who is probably overcharging anyway.


48 posted on 03/05/2006 12:38:21 AM PST by RHINO369
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To: Petronski
Also, check out this key generator from Gibson Research Corporation. Gibson claims that these keys use maximum randomization to make them very difficult to crack, instead of using a short password that generates a less random key.

I copy the key to a text file and store it on a USB flash drive. Then I copy it to each PC on my wireless network as the PSK. This also makes it easy to change the key over time.

-PJ

49 posted on 03/05/2006 12:39:35 AM PST by Political Junkie Too (It's still not safe to vote Democrat.)
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To: Dont Mention the War

"PIGGYBACKING" is a term dishonest people use to describe stealing.

Stealing is a crime.


50 posted on 03/05/2006 12:40:57 AM PST by CBart95
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To: Maximus_Ridiculousness
First, I create a user name and password for my router. Then I designate the total number of users to the number of computers in the household (3). Then, I change the wireless settings to only allow the specific MAC addressed of the computers I have. Then, I create the WEP key.

Overkill?

Not in my mind. Of course, I have a much simpler technique: I pick up the phone and call my son-in-law who comes over and secures the system. His hobby as a youngster was hacking. He had the FBI knocking on his door when he was 15. Now he works for the Phoenix Police Department, and the FBI wants him to work for them.

51 posted on 03/05/2006 12:41:13 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (Peace Begins in the Womb)
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To: Powerclam

I live in Silicon Valley in an apartment complex. Every neighbor has a router with an SSID broadcast, but they're all secured. I can't get into any of them.


52 posted on 03/05/2006 12:41:13 AM PST by Maximus_Ridiculousness (Chlo-eee! Chlo-eee! Chlo-eee!)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Wow, that's impressive. I hope he goes and works for the FBI. I'm just a tech-geek-wanna-be who lives in Silicon Valley. I'm just an office secretary.


53 posted on 03/05/2006 12:47:20 AM PST by Maximus_Ridiculousness (Chlo-eee! Chlo-eee! Chlo-eee!)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Wow, that's impressive. I hope he goes and works for the FBI. I'm just a tech-geek-wanna-be who lives in Silicon Valley. I'm just an office secretary.


54 posted on 03/05/2006 12:47:20 AM PST by Maximus_Ridiculousness (Chlo-eee! Chlo-eee! Chlo-eee!)
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To: Maximus_Ridiculousness

Now how the hell did I post twice? Wierd.


55 posted on 03/05/2006 12:47:57 AM PST by Maximus_Ridiculousness (Chlo-eee! Chlo-eee! Chlo-eee!)
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To: Maximus_Ridiculousness
I hope he goes and works for the FBI.

Not likely. He would have to take a pay cut, and he absolutely LOVES his job.

56 posted on 03/05/2006 12:53:15 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (Peace Begins in the Womb)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Really? Wow. Tells you what I know. Just read your profile. I'm a registered independent too.


57 posted on 03/05/2006 12:54:41 AM PST by Maximus_Ridiculousness (Chlo-eee! Chlo-eee! Chlo-eee!)
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To: Maximus_Ridiculousness

When he asked for my daughter's hand in marriage, (yes, BOTH of my sons-in-law asked my permission to marry my daughters), he told me that I wouldn't be losing a daughter, I would be gaining tech support for life.


58 posted on 03/05/2006 12:56:58 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (Peace Begins in the Womb)
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To: etcetera

This sounds like ignorance to me. My router software enables me to see every computer that is connected to my network, wired and wireless. If there are 48 people using it, I would be able to see that. But isn't there a limit on the number of wireless connections that can be open at any one time?


59 posted on 03/05/2006 12:56:59 AM PST by rebel_yell2
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To: Jeff Chandler

How sweeeeeeet!!!! My husband asked my parents for permission to marry me too! How romantic and nobel.


60 posted on 03/05/2006 12:58:17 AM PST by Maximus_Ridiculousness (Chlo-eee! Chlo-eee! Chlo-eee!)
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