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Student 'starting to get crucified,' his dad says
rockymountainnews ^ | 03/04/06 | Julie Poppen

Posted on 03/05/2006 11:42:03 AM PST by Pikamax

Student 'starting to get crucified,' his dad says By Julie Poppen, Rocky Mountain News March 4, 2006

Sean Allen's dad says he isn't handling this week's media attention and threats as well as his son.

"Sean has handled this way better than his father," Jeff Allen, Sean's dad, said in an interview with Sean Hannity, syndicated talk show host with Fox News Channel's Hannity & Colmes.

"To read some of these e-mails that are attacking Sean is just devastating," he said. "It looks like the tactic is to turn it around, to make it about Sean and not about the comments (Jay) Bennish made.

"Sean is already starting to get crucified."

Sean Allen, who also was on the show Friday, said he has received anonymous e-mails "cursing" him. Even Overland High School students he considered friends are calling him spineless and gutless, he said.

But Jeff Allen, 50, who works for Buena Vista Games, the video game arm of the Walt Disney Co., said the family is strongly behind Sean, a budding stand-up comic who lives in a typical, covenant-controlled neighborhood in Aurora. He said that even Sean's mother, Patti Allen, 52, a registered Democrat, is supporting her son "100 percent."

"She's a Democrat; she's not a lib," Allen said, responding to Hannity's comment that his wife was a "lib."

"Regardless of party affiliation, there are certain things that don't belong in the classroom," Scott Thornton, Sean's 24-year- old half-brother, said about his mother's position. "Mr. Bennish's comments were inappropriate and radical. She feels ultimately that Sean made the right decision."

Neither Sean, a 16-year-old sophomore at Overland High, nor his parents returned repeated phone calls for comment Friday.

On -MySpace.com, Sean Allen makes numerous references to his comedy acts and notes that he performed at the Redfish New Orleans Brewhouse in Boulder.

"Seano" or "The Sean" writes that he is influenced by comedians Andrew Dice Clay and "the one and only" Richard Pryor.

He describes his favorite movies as Blade Runner, the Alien series and The Thing. He lists his heroes as God, Jesus, Moses, Thor and Dane Cook.

He describes his major as football.

Sean Allen posted some of his comic routines on MySpace.com but they were removed by Friday afternoon. However, KHOW-AM (630) posted some of the material on its Web site.

The following is from Allen's sketch lampooning Jehovah's Witnesses. In the bit, he describes a fictional Jehovah's Witness coming to his home with magnets of Jesus "at a disco club" and "at the driving range."

Here's the punch line: " . . . but this guy came to my house and i just - lost it on him. i took him into my house and beat him to death with his own bible . . . so now, im in the johovas witness protection program."

Thornton said he was proud of his younger brother.

"Teachers are bestowed the honor of educating our youth. If they take advantage of that by going on these types of tirades, I think they should be held accountable."

In the Hannity interview, Sean said he had received numerous supportive e-mail messages from parents across the country.

"It really makes me feel really, really good this has done something and changed things so teachers who are like this start to think twice," Sean Allen said.

But neither Sean Allen nor his father, who initially distributed the recording to the media, want Bennish fired. They just want him to stick to the curriculum and stop with the political commentary. Jeff Allen said firing Bennish would send a negative message to good teachers, who would be afraid to say the wrong thing.

"We want them to give their opinion," Jeff Allen said. "We want the other side as well."

Because of the heated debate the Bennish affair has caused, Sean Allen said he may transfer to another school. "I'm working on putting my safety and my family's safety first," he told Hannity.


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1 posted on 03/05/2006 11:42:06 AM PST by Pikamax
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To: Pikamax; sure_fine

Hang in there, kid. You know you're over the correct target when you're taking flak.


2 posted on 03/05/2006 11:44:49 AM PST by butternut_squash_bisque (Borders, Language, Culture™)
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To: Pikamax
"To read some of these e-mails that are attacking Sean is just devastating," he said. "It looks like the tactic is to turn it around, to make it about Sean and not about the comments (Jay) Bennish made.

Liberalism on display at its finest.

3 posted on 03/05/2006 11:44:59 AM PST by Fruitbat
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To: Pikamax
"It looks like the tactic is to turn it around, to make it about Sean and not about the comments (Jay) Bennish made. "Sean is already starting to get crucified."

Not surprising. Isn't that what liberals do? Prayers for strength for Sean and family.

4 posted on 03/05/2006 11:45:35 AM PST by Faith
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To: Pikamax

This is badly written. Who is Jay Bennish, and what did s/he say, and how does that relate to the kid's comic routines?


5 posted on 03/05/2006 11:48:37 AM PST by John Jorsett (scam never sleeps)
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To: Pikamax
In a time of universal deception, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
-- George Orwell
6 posted on 03/05/2006 11:52:33 AM PST by VOA
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To: VOA

Orwell was such a genius. Wish he and McCarthy were still around.


7 posted on 03/05/2006 11:58:43 AM PST by Crazieman (6-23-2005, Establishment of the United Socialist States of America)
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To: butternut_squash_bisque

This tactic by liberals is a disgrace. Aren't they the ones who always glorify "whistlblowers?" Aren't they the ones who value and promote "challenging authority"? Their reaction to this reveals their utter hypocracy.


8 posted on 03/05/2006 11:58:47 AM PST by MrBlueSky2005
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To: John Jorsett

Jay Bennish is the kid who tapped his geography teacher politically indocrinating his students -- about as far left as you can go really.

You can listen to the teacher here: http://www.850koa.com/cc-common/podcast/single_podcast.html?podcast=news_worthy.xml

Read more about it here: http://michellemalkin.com/archives/004689.htm


9 posted on 03/05/2006 11:59:26 AM PST by pcx99
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To: John Jorsett

Gee, why don't you search on "bennish" and you just might get up to speed!


10 posted on 03/05/2006 12:01:16 PM PST by rebel_yell2
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To: rebel_yell2
Gee, why don't you search on "bennish" and you just might get up to speed!

I didn't think it was unreasonable to expect an article referring to somebody to explain who the person is and his/her significance. Figuring that out shouldn't be an exercise left to the reader. But maybe that's just me ...

11 posted on 03/05/2006 12:06:47 PM PST by John Jorsett (scam never sleeps)
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To: Pikamax
I hope thousands of students in high schools and colleges across the country begin to use their I-Pod's to record and expose their frothing anti-American teachers and professors .
It's high time these seditious creeps get dragged out from under their cozy little rocks and get exposed for what they are , an evil cancer attacking the minds of American youth.
12 posted on 03/05/2006 12:10:09 PM PST by LeoWindhorse
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To: pcx99

Sean Allen is the student.

Jay Bennish is the insane "teacher".


13 posted on 03/05/2006 12:10:18 PM PST by Politicalmom (Must I use a sarcasm tag?)
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To: Pikamax

I saw him on TV. He seemed a smart, capable young man. I'm sure good things are in his future.


14 posted on 03/05/2006 12:29:52 PM PST by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne

Who would curse a 16-year-old kid? Terrible. I wonder if there is a way to protect Sean's grades from possible retribution from teachers?


15 posted on 03/05/2006 12:37:51 PM PST by Landry Fan (Piglet says "I won't lego of my legos!")
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To: MrBlueSky2005; sure_fine

They've been doing this for decades, and the GOPers just sat and took it. Conservatives have fought back and it's scaring the lib-dem trash that we have spines and can give it back to them.

Remember, it's "their way of the highway". No room for anyone or anything that contradicts their mantra and agenda.


16 posted on 03/05/2006 12:43:35 PM PST by butternut_squash_bisque (Borders, Language, Culture™)
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To: John Jorsett

I agree with you.

Upon finishing the article, I was left wondering what the heck to whole stink was about.


17 posted on 03/05/2006 12:50:35 PM PST by 2111USMC
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To: MrBlueSky2005

Only whistleblowers who expose repubs - those who expose the dems/libs/old media are BAD.


18 posted on 03/05/2006 1:23:08 PM PST by CyberAnt (Democrats/Old Media: "controversy, crap and confusion" -- Amen!)
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To: butternut_squash_bisque

That's right. He stood up courageously. He should just go on to college; he's getting flak from twerps.


19 posted on 03/05/2006 1:29:28 PM PST by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: Pikamax

Any threatening e-mail and the dad could have come commies arrested. That would be more fun! Don't whine, dad. Go after the pigs.


20 posted on 03/05/2006 1:45:35 PM PST by Galveston Grl (Getting angry and abandoning power to the Democrats is not a choice.)
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To: John Jorsett
I'm inclined to agree - sloppy journalism. Let's face it, if it were up to only the MSM we'd have had to go through the entire Moslem cartoon brouhaha without ever having seen that source material either.
21 posted on 03/05/2006 2:07:12 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: John Jorsett
The story regarding Sean and his teacher has been pretty big news over the last four days here at FR. There has been over 6 seperate threads concerning the story.

I think most of the FR'ers who come to this thread know the details.

Prayers up to young Sean, he was the only kid in the whole class that challenged the assertions.

22 posted on 03/05/2006 2:13:20 PM PST by mware (A teacher of geography.)
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To: Landry Fan
Did you hear the attorney for the teacher on H&C Friday night?

The pompous ass enjoyed taking shots at the kid.

When Hannity mentioned that the boys mother was a Democrat his comment was, "It didn't take."

23 posted on 03/05/2006 2:16:16 PM PST by mware (A teacher of geography.)
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To: Pikamax

We are behind you all the way, Sean!

BTTT


24 posted on 03/05/2006 2:16:44 PM PST by fanfan ( "We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality" - Ayn Rand)
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To: John Jorsett

Freepers (especially Senior Citizen Freepers) can be rude. Just shrug it off. I was clueless on what this article was about too...had to read it a few times.

You just made the mistake of asking, LOL! ;)


25 posted on 03/05/2006 2:22:35 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: mware

I don't have cable. I hope the kid can handle the abuse. It's a shame that he's in the position.


26 posted on 03/05/2006 2:42:34 PM PST by Landry Fan (Piglet says "I won't lego of my legos!" and I'm glad Bennish isn't my teacher.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin; John Jorsett

Asking questions is important.

:-)


27 posted on 03/05/2006 2:44:40 PM PST by fanfan ( "We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality" - Ayn Rand)
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To: Pikamax
who lives in a typical, covenant-controlled neighborhood

Oh, like that doesn't convey volumes about the AUTHOR of this piece! 

The attacks have begun.  The clear implication is:

"Are you now, or have you ever been a (yuck) conservative?"


28 posted on 03/05/2006 2:50:19 PM PST by Phsstpok (There are lies, damned lies, statistics and presentation graphics, in descending order of truth)
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To: Landry Fan
Actually Sean Allen did a very good job in refuting the teachers assertions.

After one very good counter to the teachers comments the only response the teacher gave was, "That is what THEY tell you."

29 posted on 03/05/2006 2:50:24 PM PST by mware (A teacher of geography.)
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To: John Jorsett
This is badly written.

I agree. No background or context given. And no it's not your's or my fault for not having looked it up. It's a badly written article.

30 posted on 03/05/2006 2:51:30 PM PST by Wheee The People
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To: LeoWindhorse

Isn't there an organization that will pay students $100 each for recordings of leftist teachers?


31 posted on 03/05/2006 2:57:42 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: mware

That teacher is a jackass. I listened to the clip and read the transcript on Michelle Malkin's website.

His comments about 9/11 are awful.


32 posted on 03/05/2006 3:08:45 PM PST by Landry Fan (Piglet says "I won't lego of my legos!" and I'm glad Bennish isn't my teacher.)
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To: mware
The story regarding Sean and his teacher has been pretty big news over the last four days here at FR. There has been over 6 seperate threads concerning the story.

I think most of the FR'ers who come to this thread know the details.

That could well be. However, I was criticizing the author of the piece (and, if there was one, the editor who let it be published in that form), not FR or Freepers.

33 posted on 03/05/2006 3:11:55 PM PST by John Jorsett (scam never sleeps)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Freepers (especially Senior Citizen Freepers) can be rude. Just shrug it off.

Sometimes I do, and sometimes I don't, it just depends on whether I feel like arguing a bit. I've been online long enough to know not to take it personally.

34 posted on 03/05/2006 3:16:29 PM PST by John Jorsett (scam never sleeps)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
or how about : Use your I-Pod to bust these cretins and get a new one for free ?
35 posted on 03/05/2006 3:17:45 PM PST by LeoWindhorse
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To: Pikamax
"To read some of these e-mails that are attacking Sean is just devastating," he said. "It looks like the tactic is to turn it around, to make it about Sean and not about the comments (Jay) Bennish made."

THAT is the quintessential Liberal tactic, which is really a hallmark of their mental illness.
36 posted on 03/05/2006 3:23:56 PM PST by SeaBiscuit (God Bless America and Friends, the rest can go to hell.)
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To: John Jorsett

This is the new FR, where emotions rule.


37 posted on 03/05/2006 3:25:07 PM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: rebel_yell2

A writer's job is to inform the reader, not to confuse or alienate him.


38 posted on 03/05/2006 3:26:31 PM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: LeoWindhorse

Coming soon to a classroom near you "No Recording Devices Allowed!"


39 posted on 03/05/2006 4:32:21 PM PST by Valin (Purple Fingers Rule!)
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To: John Jorsett

Although his jokes kinda suck I wouldn't want to kill him over it ;)


40 posted on 03/11/2006 7:53:27 AM PST by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: John Jorsett; rebel_yell2
I didn't think it was unreasonable to expect an article referring to somebody to explain who the person is and his/her significance. Figuring that out shouldn't be an exercise left to the reader. But maybe that's just me ...
________________________________________________________
The lame stream media has no problem giving us an autobiography about Cindy Sheehan in every article. They must think someone doesn't know her son paid the ultimate price for her to twist into her 15 minutes of fame.
41 posted on 03/11/2006 7:57:59 AM PST by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: John Jorsett
This is badly written. Who is Jay Bennish, and what did s/he say, and how does that relate to the kid's comic routines?

Perhaps the author, Julie Poppen, is a Columbia Journalism grad.

42 posted on 12/01/2006 10:54:38 AM PST by TaxRelief (Wal-Mart: Keeping my family on-budget since 1993.)
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To: John Jorsett

Thank you!!! Can someone translate this to English - this makes no sense to me, I read the whole thing and could not figure out what Sean did 'wrong' that was causing him to receive death threats. SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHAT IS GOING ON HERE! lol, thanks!


43 posted on 12/01/2006 11:01:38 AM PST by arizonarachel (Lord, please let us keep this little miracle.)
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To: arizonarachel

Why did I post to an article from 9 months ago? Where did this come from? LOL at me, again.


44 posted on 12/01/2006 11:04:41 AM PST by arizonarachel (Lord, please let us keep this little miracle.)
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To: arizonarachel

Why did I post to an article from 9 months ago? Where did this come from? LOL at me, again.


45 posted on 12/01/2006 11:04:45 AM PST by arizonarachel (Lord, please let us keep this little miracle.)
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To: arizonarachel

Just reading this article without knowing the back story, I'm left with a very negative impression of Sean and his parents. If my 16 year old son wanted to appear at a comedy club, I'd know what jokes were in his routine before I allowed him to do it and he sure wouldn't be allowed to tell jokes like that.


46 posted on 12/01/2006 11:09:43 AM PST by Elyse (I refuse to feed the crocodile.)
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To: arizonarachel

LOL. Well, you aren't alone because you dragged me into this, too.


47 posted on 12/01/2006 11:11:45 AM PST by Elyse (I refuse to feed the crocodile.)
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To: Valin
Coming soon to a classroom near you "No Recording Devices Allowed!"

In college, I used to tape record all of my classes and then transcribe the notes later at night over a few beers and dinner.

One of my profs asked me to come by his office one day. When I arrived there he asked me why I was taping. I told him why and he replied that his lectures were copyrighted and would cost me $500 per session to record...so I should just start taking written notes like everyone else.
He was a Sociology prof. As Liberal as the day was long. I wonder what he was afraid of? None of my other profs had a problem with it.

Old thread...I know. But I didn't revive it.

48 posted on 12/01/2006 11:26:45 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (The way that you wander is the way that you choose. The day that you tarry is the day that you lose.)
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To: John Jorsett
This is badly written. Who is Jay Bennish, and what did s/he say, and how does that relate to the kid's comic routines?

HOrribly written indeed. I can't figure out what happened.

49 posted on 12/01/2006 11:30:10 AM PST by subterfuge (Today, Tolerance =greatest virtue;Hypocrisy=worst character defect; Discrimination =worst atrocity)
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To: John Jorsett

It isn't just you...

This is "journalism?"


50 posted on 12/01/2006 11:31:44 AM PST by subterfuge (Today, Tolerance =greatest virtue;Hypocrisy=worst character defect; Discrimination =worst atrocity)
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