Ethanol Industry Sets Record in 2005

RenewableEnergyAccess.com ^ | March 6, 2006 | staff

[Toddsterpatriot]

Brazil produces ethanol for a buck a gallon.

Do you understand that America is not Brazil? LOL!

[N3WBI3]

1) You can power an ethanol plant with Coal, thats not oil...

[Mr. Lucky]

You apparently are wholly unaware that Brazilian ethanol cannot be imported into the US (because of a huge import duty).

[Mr. Lucky]

You really don't have the slightest idea as to how ethanol is produced from corn, what it costs or what other products are produced, do you?

[Toddsterpatriot]

1) You can power an ethanol plant with Coal, thats not oil...

Do we make fertilizer with coal? What about the fuel to get the corn to the plant or the ethanol to the market?

[Rakkasan1]

Maybe Congress should issue war bonds again. this time the $ goes to fund bio-fuel research and people can put their money where their mouths are. Only 15% of Brazil transportation fuel comes from ethanol. Although the majority of the cars sold there today are flex fuel cars, they only make up less than 8% of the vehicles in Brazil.

Brazil Sugar Ethanol Update – February 2006, USDA Foreign Agricultural Service

http://www.fas.usda.gov/gainfiles/200602/146176783.doc

[Toddsterpatriot]

You really don't have the slightest idea as to how ethanol is produced from corn, what it costs or what other products are produced, do you?

Sure I do.

[kellynla]

You're questioning me?

GET LOST WILL YA! ROFLMAO

[Tolerance Sucks Rocks]

I wonder how fast the ethanol industry would be growing without subsidies?

[brainstem223]

Unanswered is does Brazil have any domestic oil to "prime the pump" of ethanol production?

Producing feul for a buck a gallon is a vague stat at best given the unknown cost of labor/capital in Brazil.

Someone can make a fortune buying it in Brazil and selling it here.

[brainstem223]

George just gave nuclear reactors to the indians, and none for the home folks here, what are we Chopped Liver?

[Mr. Lucky]

Explain it to us.

[N3WBI3]

Do we make fertilizer with coal? What about the fuel to get the corn to the plant or the ethanol to the market?

1) We use *energy* to do these and as with any type of energy it can be substituted... eg use BioDesel for the farm equipment and nuclear / alternative energy sources to power factories that make fertilizer.

[Toddsterpatriot]

You're questioning me?

I question silly people on FR all the time, why should you be exempt?

[chuckles]

I believe we turned it away for 55 cents a gallon in 2003. I'm not sure we will do that again. The objectors would be ADM, not the oil companies. If it gets out that we are protecting ADM and pushing ethanol use, and then turn down Brazil, it will be another UAE port type scandal.

Free trade is supposed to be FREE TRADE.

[Toddsterpatriot]

Yeah, that fermentation process hasn't been around for thousands of years.

[kellynla]

"Producing feul for a buck a gallon is a vague stat at best given the unknown cost of labor/capital in Brazil."

vague?
what's vague!

THIS IS THE LAST TIME,
THE WORLD BANK ESTIMATES THAT IT COSTS BRAZIL A DOLLAR A GALLON TO PRODUCE ETHANOL!
that's about as DEFINITE as it gets!
gezzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[Mr. Lucky]

That's it? All you know about energy consumption in American agriculture and grain processing is that fermentation has been around a long time?

[chuckles]

We could make ethanol FROM coal, if we just would.

http://www.westernresearch.org/content/technology_areas/alternative_fuels/alcohols.shtml

You can buy one and set it up on your property if you can get the coal.

[kellynla]

"silly?"

you come on my thread totally ignorant of the facts about ethanol production and you call me "silly?"

my tagline is all the response you deserve! ROFLMAO