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Intnert posting control bill
New Jersey State Legislature ^
| 1/10/2006
| Assemblyman PETER J. BIONDI
Posted on 03/06/2006 1:17:27 PM PST by ZULU
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To: ZULU
This bill would require an operator of any interactive computer service or an Internet service provider to establish, maintain and enforce a policy requiring an information content provider who posts messages on a public forum website either to be identified by legal name and address or to register a legal name and address with the operator or provider prior to posting messages on a public forum website. That's stupid. Just put a real name and address field in the sign-up. There's no guarantee anyone will put in true information.
An operator of an interactive computer service or an Internet service provider shall establish and maintain reasonable procedures to enable any person to request and obtain disclosure of the legal name and address of an information content provider who posts false or defamatory information about the person on a public forum website.
That would surely die in court. There's already a procedure for this, it's called a subpoena. And subpoenas can be challenged. This would hurt our time-honored tradition of anonymous political speech, much precedent against it.
I have a feeling this guy had somebody else tell the truth about him online, and he wants a law that will allow him to get the person's identity without having to show a judge how the information was false.
To: antiRepublicrat
"I have a feeling this guy had somebody else tell the truth about him online, and he wants a law that will allow him to get the person's identity without having to show a judge how the information was false."
Bingo!
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posted on
03/06/2006 2:09:16 PM PST
by
ZULU
(Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
To: mysterio
He'll probably get re-elected and sent to higher office.
The masses are stupid - especially in New Jersey.
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posted on
03/06/2006 2:10:37 PM PST
by
ZULU
(Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
To: frogjerk
From his picture, he looks like a really old dude.
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posted on
03/06/2006 2:11:19 PM PST
by
ZULU
(Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
To: OB1kNOb
Sorry, ... forgive me. I'll try to use it more often.
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posted on
03/06/2006 2:12:14 PM PST
by
ZULU
(Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
To: buffyt
Intern Net - that's a good one.
Maybe that's what he used to catch them - an Intern Net.
It would take a pretty strong net to hold that healthy buxom one he caught.
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posted on
03/06/2006 2:15:00 PM PST
by
ZULU
(Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
To: ZULU
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posted on
03/06/2006 2:21:51 PM PST
by
OB1kNOb
(America is the land of the free BECAUSE of the BRAVE !!)
To: ZULU
3. An operator of an interactive computer service or an Internet service provider shall establish and maintain reasonable procedures to enable any person to request and obtain disclosure of the legal name and address of an information content provider who posts false or defamatory information about the person on a public forum website. How many ways can I say 'screw you'?
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posted on
03/06/2006 2:41:13 PM PST
by
Bloody Sam Roberts
(Crime cannot be tolerated. Criminals thrive on the indulgences of society's understanding.)
To: albertp; Allosaurs_r_us; Abram; AlexandriaDuke; Americanwolf; Annie03; Baby Bear; bassmaner; ...
Boy the last couple of years the republicans sure have shrunk the size and scope of the federal government haven't they?Its a good thing they got a majority in all branches of the government huh?Can you imagine if the dems ran things?Hell federal spending might be up 37 percents on the last 5 years and we might have a massive prescription drug entitlement along with a few new federal bureaucracy's as well as an all out attack on the first amendment.
Libertarian ping.To be added or removed from my ping list freepmail me or post a message here
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posted on
03/06/2006 2:59:10 PM PST
by
freepatriot32
(Holding you head high & voting Libertarian is better then holding your nose and voting republican)
To: EagleAndHawkMan
Ge...Last time i heard..'Anonymous Free Speech' was protected speech, under the Constitution.
We still have a Constitution?
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posted on
03/06/2006 3:21:16 PM PST
by
mugs99
(Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
To: ZULU
The itching trigger fingers of political prostitutes to control the Net
The government and the MSM will not give up their control over the public. The internet threatens that control and will be brought into line. The internet as we know it will be gone in a decade.
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posted on
03/06/2006 3:27:33 PM PST
by
mugs99
(Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
To: mugs99
The government and the MSM will not give up their control over the public. The internet threatens that control and will be brought into line. The internet as we know it will be gone in a decade.
Yeah, but just think how cool the "underground" net will be. Digital speakeasys, codewords, government raids......I can't wait.
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posted on
03/06/2006 4:39:48 PM PST
by
SandfleaCSC
( “Alcohol may be man's worst enemy, but the bible says love your enemy.”)
To: SandfleaCSC
LOL!
Can't wait for the underground!
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posted on
03/06/2006 6:25:13 PM PST
by
mugs99
(Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
To: ZULU
This law will be very difficult to enforce. There will be no way to charge an individual for not identifying themselves because no one knows who they are lol. Assuming that the government subpoenas the records from a website like FR all they will have is an IP address from the access logs of a given day and time. All the government could prove is someone from said IP address made a post at that day and time and not specifically who.
The only thing they could do would be to hold the people responsible for the Internet connection accountable for unidentified web speech and not the actual poster. Similar to how they go after parents for teenage kids who download copyrighted material illegally.
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posted on
03/06/2006 8:03:41 PM PST
by
KoRn
To: ZULU
Intnert
U win teh internets!
To: mugs99
In name only - unless the new court forces its application again.
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posted on
03/07/2006 4:43:43 AM PST
by
ZULU
(Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
To: ZULU
Sure, the new court will use the Commerce Clause to regulate access to the net. The wars on terror, drugs, porn, gambling and the blackmarket will be the end of the free net.
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posted on
03/07/2006 8:48:15 AM PST
by
mugs99
(Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
To: antiRepublicrat
That would surely die in court. There's already a procedure for this, it's called a subpoena. And subpoenas can be challenged. This would hurt our time-honored tradition of anonymous political speech, much precedent against it. There was a recent ruling by the Delaware Supreme Court, which is expected to have national implications, which specifically addresses anonymous internet postings and threw out requests for the ISP records net postings on a news paper open forum.
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posted on
03/07/2006 9:04:03 AM PST
by
Gabz
(Smokers are the beta version)
To: mugs99
Let's hope the "new court" eviscerates the "commerce clause" in the Constitution.
It has been much abused and its abuse flies in the face of the tenth amendment.
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posted on
03/07/2006 9:20:03 AM PST
by
ZULU
(Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
To: ZULU
It has been much abused and its abuse flies in the face of the tenth amendment
It sure does, but federal power over the states depends on that abuse and all members of the court are company men.
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posted on
03/07/2006 9:30:43 AM PST
by
mugs99
(Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
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