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Coroner: Lack of Oxygen, Not Peanut Butter, Killed Girl
FOXNEWS.COM ^ | Monday, March 06, 2006

Posted on 03/06/2006 3:48:50 PM PST by ferri

MONTREAL — A lack of oxygen to the brain likely played a role in the death of a teenager once thought to have died of a peanut allergy after kissing her boyfriend who had just eaten peanut butter, a Quebec coroner said Monday.

Coroner Michel Miron told The Associated Press that it appeared that Christina Desforges, 15, had suffered from "cerebral anoxia," or a lack of oxygen to the brain, which caused serious damage.

He provided no further details — other than to say that no foul play was suspected in Desforges' death — because he has yet to submit a final report to the provincial coroner's office.

(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...


TOPICS: Canada; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: allergies; peanutbutter

1 posted on 03/06/2006 3:48:53 PM PST by ferri
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To: ferri
Any FReeper M.D.'s here? Cerebral anoxia is not linked to hyperventilating, is it?
2 posted on 03/06/2006 3:50:42 PM PST by jdm
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To: fanfan

ping


3 posted on 03/06/2006 3:50:45 PM PST by ferri (Be Politically Incorrect: Support the Constitution!)
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To: ferri

That's got to be a heavy burden lifted from the boyfriend.


4 posted on 03/06/2006 3:50:57 PM PST by Rebelbase (President Bush is a Texas jackass when it comes to Border security .)
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To: Rebelbase

that was my first thought too. when they thought his kiss had killed her i felt horrible for him. imagine!


5 posted on 03/06/2006 3:51:46 PM PST by ferri (Be Politically Incorrect: Support the Constitution!)
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To: ferri

Sure she died of anoxia. Her lungs stopped working when she was exposed to peanut butter.


6 posted on 03/06/2006 3:52:21 PM PST by oblomov (Join the FR Folding@Home Team (#36120) keyword: folding@home)
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To: oblomov

Are they spinning the causation to counsel the families, or is there some other purpose? I can't imagine one.


7 posted on 03/06/2006 3:54:14 PM PST by Shermy
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To: jdm

Cerebral anoxia=lack of oxygen to the brain. That would be HYPOventilation, not HYPERventilation.


8 posted on 03/06/2006 3:55:20 PM PST by Born Conservative (Acts of intolerance will not be tolerated at The Pennsylvania State University.)
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To: ferri; GMMAC; Pikamax; Former Proud Canadian; Great Dane; Alberta's Child; headsonpikes; Ryle; ...
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9 posted on 03/06/2006 3:55:29 PM PST by fanfan ( "We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality" - Ayn Rand)
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To: oblomov
Sure she died of anoxia. Her lungs stopped working when she was exposed to peanut butter.

Good to see you read the entire article before spouting off.

Now reread it completely. Notice that the coroner says the fact that the kiss was hours after the boy had eaten the peanut butter, and that he had eaten and also drank since then, showed that his mouth was cleansed of the peanut butter.

More importantly, the coroner stated that the anoxia was caused by an asthma attack, not an allergic reaction.

10 posted on 03/06/2006 3:56:56 PM PST by commish (Freedom Tastes Sweetest to Those Who Have Fought to Preserve It)
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To: ferri


What is auto-erotic asphyxiation?



Dear Reader,
Auto-erotic asphyxiation (AEA) is the term used to describe the practice of cutting off the blood supply to the brain through self-applied suffocation methods while masturbating to orgasm. The interference of blood supply to the brain brought on by AEA can induce cerebral anoxia, a deficiency of oxygen in the brain. It is thought that the lack of blood flow and oxygen can intensify sensations, producing sensations of giddiness, lightheadedness, or exhilaration that can heighten the orgasmic experience. It's also possible that the helplessness and self-endangerment inherent in the techniques enhance the person's sexual gratification.

Of course, this same self-endangerment that may provide a thrill to the person carrying out AEA also weakens one's self-control and judgment, which can easily result in accidental death. Exactly how many people engage in AEA is unknown, and the practice almost always remains a secret until a person dies accidentally. It's estimated that between 500 and 1000 deaths occur annually in the United States from this dangerous type of masturbation. While it is thought to be practiced more often by adolescent or young adult guys, a small number of women die from AEA every year.

If a person does not die from cerebral anoxia, brain or tissue damage could possibly occur, depending on how long the brain and body are deprived of oxygen. A person also risks lacerating, cutting or bruising the neck, trachea, and esophagus, depending on the suffocation or strangulation technique used.

These immediate threats to the brain and body, including death and brain damage, make auto-erotic asphyxiation one of the riskiest of all sexual behaviors.


11 posted on 03/06/2006 4:01:46 PM PST by COUNTrecount
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To: fanfan

Thank goodness that the poor young man does not have to live with this. What a bizarre and tragic occurrence.


12 posted on 03/06/2006 4:02:12 PM PST by Bahbah (An admitted Snow Flake and a member of Sam's Club)
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To: oblomov

I suspect some spinning with a good motive behind it.

Asthma is an allergic reaction.


13 posted on 03/06/2006 4:03:27 PM PST by From many - one.
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To: Bahbah

Truth is reliably stranger than fiction.


14 posted on 03/06/2006 4:04:58 PM PST by fanfan ( "We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality" - Ayn Rand)
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To: jdm

Good chance here 'someone' blocked here airway while being a little frisky.


15 posted on 03/06/2006 4:05:29 PM PST by Westlander (Unleash the Neutron Bomb)
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To: ferri

I would guess that the lack of oxygen was caused by the peanut allergy.


16 posted on 03/06/2006 4:11:16 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: ferri; fanfan

Wow.


17 posted on 03/06/2006 4:11:54 PM PST by Irish_Thatcherite (~~~A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!~~~)
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To: From many - one.

"Asthma is an allergic reaction."

often, but not always


18 posted on 03/06/2006 4:40:27 PM PST by EDINVA
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To: ferri
Anaphylaxis shock from the allergen (peanut butter) can cause swelling and obstruction of airway.
19 posted on 03/06/2006 5:00:16 PM PST by lula (Starving the disabled is OK, go to jail if you do the same to an animal...go figure)
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To: lula

Yes, this is cerainly a most confusing statement. It seems to add nothing, it resolves nothing.


20 posted on 03/06/2006 5:02:46 PM PST by bvw
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To: ferri

Further info from here...

http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_PrintFriendly&c=Article&cid=1141383320987&call_pageid=968332188492

"The Canadian Association of Food Allergies intended to use the Desforges case to launch an education campaign," he said. "I had to tell them the cause of death was different than first believed."

Miron also said the teen didn't receive a shot of adrenalin immediately after being kissed. It was reported the shot hadn't penetrated her skin.

He said scientific journals had contacted him questioning the use of adrenalin and how it's injected.

But he said the teen didn't use her syringe to give herself a shot of adrenalin because she didn't have any allergic reaction to peanut butter.
A reporter for Le Quotidien “But no one at the scientific level was able to succeed quickly at confirming the cause (of her death),” said Louis Tremblay.

“The proof has now shown that’s not what happened,” he added.

One media report at the time also said that, along with being allergic to peanut butter, Desforges was also asthmatic.

A friend, who was with Desforges when she became ill, told a Radio-Canada reporter last November that the young girl told him she thought her asthma was acting up.


21 posted on 03/06/2006 5:11:41 PM PST by Slicksadick (Go out on a limb........Its where the fruit is.)
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To: ferri
Can't wait to see what snopes.com does with this new urban legend.

But, I'm afraid the peanut-butter theory is now too ingrained into the public mind to ever suffer the truth.

22 posted on 03/06/2006 5:54:29 PM PST by impatient
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To: ferri

Ummm, not to be too much of a literalist, but isn't ALL death (other than being blown to bits maybe) caused by "oxygen deprivation to the brain"?


23 posted on 03/06/2006 6:14:28 PM PST by Vicomte13 (Et alors?)
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To: Vicomte13

lol you know, i thought that too. no breathing and then the heart stops. gee.


24 posted on 03/06/2006 6:19:45 PM PST by ferri (Be Politically Incorrect: Support the Constitution!)
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To: ferri

I certainly don't mean to make light of this tragedy, but the title of this thread amused me to no end.


25 posted on 03/06/2006 6:21:10 PM PST by Fintan (Did you really think I could post such insightful replies if I actually read the article???)
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To: ferri

Dollars to donuts that it was sexually related...either choking herself to get high or both doing it to eachother and she went down for the count.


26 posted on 03/06/2006 6:23:59 PM PST by My Favorite Headache ("Scientology is dangerous stuff,it's like forming a religion based around Johnny Quest and Haji.")
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To: Fintan

you can't really help it since the coroner doens't really say what killed her. not peanut butter. that narrows it down i guess...


27 posted on 03/06/2006 6:24:26 PM PST by ferri (Be Politically Incorrect: Support the Constitution!)
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To: ferri

"lol you know, i thought that too. no breathing and then the heart stops. gee."

Or, the heart stops, and then no blood goes to the brain.
Or the pancreas stops working, causing organs to break down, which causes the heart to stop, so no blood goes to the brain.
Or you're cut and the blood goes out on the street and not into your brain.
Or...
Seems like no matter how you dice and slice it, the leading and only cause of death (other than being blown to bits) is oxygen deprivation to the brain.


28 posted on 03/06/2006 8:18:43 PM PST by Vicomte13 (Et alors?)
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To: ferri
lack of oxygen to the brain

That's what kills most people. But what caused the lack of oxygen to the brain? Cerebral anoxia is caused by something else. It sounds like the doctors are spinning the story for the families. You just don't get cerebral anoxia out of the blue. She may very well have died from a peanut allergy. But there has to be some underlying condition to cause lack of oxygen to the brain.

29 posted on 03/07/2006 6:04:30 AM PST by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what and Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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To: ferri

That is what happens to people that are allergic to peanuts. When thy contact the aroma of peanuts, they can't breathe.


30 posted on 03/07/2006 6:10:41 AM PST by sport
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To: sport; doc30

the first article i read about this was just the coroner saying that it wasn't peanut allergy that killed her, he wanted that to be known as soon as possible because it was about to be written up in a medical journal. i hope there will be a follow up on this some time soon.


31 posted on 03/07/2006 6:29:52 AM PST by ferri (Be Politically Incorrect: Support the Constitution!)
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