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RETROACTIVE ABORTION
Common Voice ^ | 03.06.06 | Jim Kouri

Posted on 03/06/2006 7:58:27 PM PST by Coleus

While Americans continue to struggle with the moral and legal issues surrounding partial-birth abortion, the Europeans have moved on to legalizing euthanasia for fully born children. Call it retroactive-abortion.

Child euthanasia is still illegal in Holland and doctors are terrified of being prosecuted, but there is a growing number of physicians and poltician who are advocating legalizing doctor-assisted euthanasia for babies and very young children.

Each year in Holland at least 15 seriously ill babies, most of them with chromosomal abnormalities, are helped to die by doctors acting with the parents’ consent. But only a fraction of those cases are reported to the authorities because of the doctors’ fears of being charged with murder. Things are about to change, however, making it much easier for parents and doctors to end the suffering of an infant, according to news stories circulating in Western Europe.

A committee was set up in Holland to regulate the practice of child euthanasia and will begin operating in the next few weeks, effectively making Holland -- where adult euthanasia is legal -- the first nation on the planet to allow “baby euthanasia” as well. This development has enraged opponents of euthanasia who warn of a “slippery slope” leading to abuses by doctors and parents, who will be making decisions for individuals incapable of expressing their own preferences and desires.

Others say they welcome more openness about a practice that, according to doctors, goes on secretly anyway -- even in Britain -- regardless of the law.

Part of this new committee's work will entail formulating guidelines for doctors who will carry out euthanasia on babies. These guidelines are expected to emphasize that life can be ended only in cases involving “unbearable suffering”, with parental consent and after consultation with other physicians.

Now that they've succeeded in legalizing child euthanasia in Holland, there are rumblings that the next step is euthanasia for the retarded, Down's Syndrome chiildren and others. However, in this category it will be difficult to use the "suffering" infant rationale. So advocates are using the "rights of the parents" rationale or the "betterment of society" rationale, as if killing innocent human beings makes for a better society.

Other countries in Western Europe are expected to follow Holland's lead in the doctor-assisted euthanasia industry and many on the left in the US are also open to the idea.

But the Dutch aren't turning their backs on abortion. A new proposal being bandied in Holland is mandatory abortion of so-called "unwanted children." The left-wing in The Netherlands are intensifying the discussion regarding this latest progressive construct. The most rabid advocate is Marianne van den Anker, who is the head of Rotterdam's health department.

She's targeting specific ethnic groups for this latest atrocity: she's targeting the Antilleans and Arubans who now reside in Holland. She is advocating forced abortions for teenaged mothers, drug addicts and the mentally handicapped.

This latest extension of the "reproductive rights" has its own advocates cloaking what appears to be a Nazi-like proposal with compassionate reasons for her proposal, complete with their own "worst case scenario" argument. These leftists are working on a strategy to defend an obviously racist, fascist healthcare policy. As with the Planned Parenthood icon Margaret Sanger, who advocated abortion for "Negroes," these Dutch appear oblivious to the consequences of their obsession with killing unborn and born babies. And you can bet the farm our own left-wing "intellectuals" in American are watching the progressive Europeans in the hopes of duplicating their madness.

According to Physicians for Life, it took the Dutch almost 30 years for their medical practices to fall to the point that Dutch doctors are able to engage in the kind of euthanasia activities that got some German doctors hanged after the Nuremberg Nazi trials. For those who object to this assertion by claiming that German doctors killed disabled babies during World War II without consent of parents, so too do many Dutch doctors: Approximately 21 percent of the infant euthanasia deaths occurred without request or consent of parents.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: abortion; abortionlist; drugaddicts; eu; europe; euthanasia; mentallyhandicapped; retroactiveabortion; teenagedmothers
China practicing retroactive abortion. War Crimes against humanity? 

1 posted on 03/06/2006 7:58:28 PM PST by Coleus
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To: 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; afraidfortherepublic; Alas; al_c; american colleen; annalex; ...


2 posted on 03/06/2006 7:59:34 PM PST by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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To: Coleus
Well. I don't suppose the self-satisfied nihilists can say that Christians and other right-wing kooks were wrong about the logic of the left's abortion fetish.

Mengele would be proud of these fanatics.

3 posted on 03/06/2006 8:03:10 PM PST by Reactionary (The Moonbats Need an Enema)
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To: Coleus

Retro-Active Abortions.

In the case(s) of several very well-known members of the (1) RAT Party, (2)MSM, (3)the Hollyweird Elite and finally those Elitist Bastards in Academia, I'm all for this concept.


4 posted on 03/06/2006 8:03:52 PM PST by Howie66 ("America will never seek a permission slip to defend the security of our people.")
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To: Coleus

Murder.


5 posted on 03/06/2006 8:14:17 PM PST by Denver Ditdat (Melting solder since 1975)
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To: Coleus; neverdem; Tolik; mhking

oh. wow.
(a response more accurately reflecting my reaction to this would be unprintable here)


6 posted on 03/06/2006 8:16:52 PM PST by King Prout (many accuse me of being overly literal... this would not be a problem if many were not under-precise)
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To: Coleus

These people are out of their damn mind!


7 posted on 03/06/2006 8:18:55 PM PST by I got the rope
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To: Coleus
I'm not trying to be flippant, but I've been saying for years that if we renamed capital punishment and called it "Retroactive Abortion", then the lefties and the Dims would probably accept it...
8 posted on 03/06/2006 8:19:31 PM PST by Former Dodger ( "Insanity: Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." --Einstein)
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To: Denver Ditdat
A committee was set up in Holland to regulate the practice of child euthanasia and will begin operating in the next few weeks, effectively making Holland -- where adult euthanasia is legal -- the first nation on the planet to allow “baby euthanasia” as well.

"Murder" you say? Me thinks it's not murder but the health of the womyn that is the reason driving these decisions. You see Holland is enlightened enough to recognize that baby killing is a choice best left to a womyn and her physician.

9 posted on 03/06/2006 8:23:08 PM PST by WideGlide (That light at the end of the tunnel might be a muzzle flash.)
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To: King Prout

I, too, cannot type my real reaction because it would be laden with questionable words and phrases in several languages.


10 posted on 03/06/2006 8:27:10 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: WideGlide

I like your tagline.


11 posted on 03/06/2006 8:28:34 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Reactionary

Wasn't Holland one of the biggest areas of resistance to the Nazis during WWII? What happened?


12 posted on 03/06/2006 8:29:54 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Army Air Corps

ayyuh.


13 posted on 03/06/2006 8:31:30 PM PST by King Prout (many accuse me of being overly literal... this would not be a problem if many were not under-precise)
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To: Coleus

Why don't we just go back to the fine ancient tradition of exposing unwanted children on the hillside and have done with it...


14 posted on 03/06/2006 8:36:24 PM PST by Unam Sanctam
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To: Former Dodger
....if we renamed capital punishment and called it "Retroactive Abortion", then the lefties and the Dims would probably accept it...

If we had such a thing as retro-active abortion, there would be no lefties or Dims.

15 posted on 03/06/2006 8:37:42 PM PST by lesser_satan (You know, if ifs and buts were candy and nuts, every day would be Christmas.)
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To: Unam Sanctam

I don't think these are unwanted children.
I would not want a baby to have "unbearable suffering" going on for who knows how long, with no ability to alleviate the pain until the child dies. That also would be more inhumane.


16 posted on 03/06/2006 9:33:40 PM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (Google would sell out America to the highest bidder!)
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To: Coleus

This development has enraged opponents of euthanasia who warn of a “slippery slope” leading to abuses by doctors and parents, who will be making decisions for individuals incapable of expressing their own preferences and desires.

It's gone WAY beyond being a "slippery slope". They have now fallen into the pit to hell.

17 posted on 03/06/2006 9:38:18 PM PST by frankiep
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To: Coleus

One word - terrifying.


18 posted on 03/06/2006 9:51:09 PM PST by Kaylee Frye
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To: Howie66
You bet! IMHO, Virginia Kelly and Rose Kennedy should have had it available.......taxpayer funded, no less.
19 posted on 03/06/2006 9:53:59 PM PST by Southbound ((Formerly a hairy-legged, deprived banjo picker.))
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To: Coleus

Were I to meet any of these people, my only comment to them would contain two words. And the second word would probably 'you' or 'off'.


20 posted on 03/06/2006 9:55:47 PM PST by JamesP81
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To: Coleus

Next comes "Women's Life-Long Right of Choice" by which they can kill any child they don't want regardless of age.


21 posted on 03/06/2006 10:04:48 PM PST by zot (GWB -- four more years!)
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To: Coleus; 4lifeandliberty; AbsoluteGrace; afraidfortherepublic; Alamo-Girl; anniegetyourgun; ...

Pro-Life/Pro-Baby ping!

Now that they've succeeded in legalizing child euthanasia in Holland, there are rumblings that the next step is euthanasia for the retarded, Down's Syndrome chiildren and others. However, in this category it will be difficult to use the "suffering" infant rationale. So advocates are using the "rights of the parents" rationale or the "betterment of society" rationale, as if killing innocent human beings makes for a better society.

Other countries in Western Europe are expected to follow Holland's lead in the doctor-assisted euthanasia industry and many on the left in the US are also open to the idea.

But the Dutch aren't turning their backs on abortion. A new proposal being bandied in Holland is mandatory abortion of so-called "unwanted children."


Please FReepmail me if you would like to be added to, or removed from, the Pro-Life/Pro-Baby ping list...

22 posted on 03/06/2006 10:13:57 PM PST by cgk (I don't see myself as a conservative. I see myself as a religious, right-wing, wacko extremist.)
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To: Coleus

This is horrifying. The slippery slope doesn't even exist anymore. They are talking about expanding their euthanizing of not just terminally ill infants and adults but "Retarded, down's syndrome and others"???


23 posted on 03/06/2006 10:16:02 PM PST by cgk (I don't see myself as a conservative. I see myself as a religious, right-wing, wacko extremist.)
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To: Coleus
Others say they welcome more openness about a practice that, according to doctors, goes on secretly anyway -- even in Britain -- regardless of the law.

Un-f'in-believable!!! But we all saw this coming ... just when ya thought that the death-cult liberals couldn't get any more outrageous, they do. No surprise here ppl, move along, nothing to see ..........

24 posted on 03/06/2006 10:21:45 PM PST by Mr_Moonlight
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To: Coleus
I'd like to suggest a candidate for a retroactive abortion:

25 posted on 03/06/2006 10:24:14 PM PST by TheDon (The Democratic Party is the party of TREASON!)
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To: zot

I'm sure there are days when my Mom longs for this, and yes,(sigh) I am an only child.


26 posted on 03/06/2006 10:45:24 PM PST by BruceysMom (I'm hot & not in a good way: menopause ain't for sissies)
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To: BruceysMom

In case my response offended anyone as "too flippant" my gut reaction is just too painful to post.


27 posted on 03/06/2006 10:46:55 PM PST by BruceysMom (I'm hot & not in a good way: menopause ain't for sissies)
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To: cgk

Thanks for the ping!


28 posted on 03/06/2006 11:00:17 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Coleus
My Dad knew an oldtimer missionary who was based in rural Japan in the 1930's (and then postwar for some time). He said there was a practice found among some farm families - who didn't want another female mouth to feed - to place wet rice paper over the newborn baby girl's mouth and nostrils. The Japanese, who well deserve the reputation of having no equals in the world when it comes to the art of euphemism, had a phrase for this that translated to, "Helping the baby to stop breathing".

Wow! Isn't that compassionate?!? Why, we're just helping the baby! That's all.

I have no idea whether this is still practiced anywhere in Japan. I would hope it is no longer so.

"You know, we Dutch doctors aren't really all that different from Boy Scouts! The scouts want to help little old ladies across the street. We just want to help all kinds of people across the boundary to the next life. Old people, babies, sick people, mentally deficient people. Why, we're so chock full of compassion, we could just burst sometimes!"

Someone should award a prize every year to people such as this. Call it "The Compassion Of Hitler" Prize. Get some painter to make a painting of Adolf with a sappy look on his face, and give a fullsized print of it to the winners.

29 posted on 03/06/2006 11:27:17 PM PST by CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC (The heart of the wise man inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left. - Eccl. 10:2)
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To: Southbound

Amen to that!! In both instances, they would have deserved a community service award for having that procedure, too.


30 posted on 03/07/2006 4:06:36 AM PST by Howie66 ("America will never seek a permission slip to defend the security of our people.")
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To: Coleus

Liberalism is a disease causing "unbearable suffering". Why don't we just ship em off to Holland?


31 posted on 03/07/2006 8:46:58 AM PST by Evie Munchkin (Democrats - Party of death and taxes)
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To: Kaylee Frye
One word - terrifying.

It is, isn't it? I fear it will be happening here soon if we don't stop it now. It is the natural progression from "unwanted" to "unworthy".

32 posted on 03/07/2006 4:30:37 PM PST by Desert_Girl (A scar is what happens when the world is made flesh)
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To: Coleus

At least until their old enough to vote. Unless they smoke in public. /sarc


33 posted on 03/07/2006 4:31:47 PM PST by P.O.E.
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To: P.O.E.

their s/b they're (sheesh!)


34 posted on 03/07/2006 4:32:08 PM PST by P.O.E.
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To: BruceysMom

No offense. Your reply wasn't flippant. I'm sorry about your situation with your mother. My mother-in-law was that way in her old age, too. It was heartbreaking for both of her daughters. She had senile dementia and died two years ago at age 90.


35 posted on 03/07/2006 5:39:01 PM PST by zot (GWB -- four more years!)
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To: Desert_Girl

That is certainly something to keep in mind when people talk about "helping unwanted children"(by killing them). This mentality of death that is sweeping over the liberal community is really something.


36 posted on 03/07/2006 6:22:35 PM PST by Kaylee Frye
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To: metmom
Well, all those that "dialed in" the systematic killing of Jews and Gypsies fled to Holland.

It's similar to the Nazi Germany drug company that now makes RU-486...

It, the company, laid low for some years then came out hitting on all cylinders, full speed ahead.

37 posted on 03/08/2006 1:11:29 PM PST by Idisarthur
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