Skip to comments.A Peculiar People: Crunchy Cons
Posted on 03/07/2006 6:08:18 AM PST by Mr. Silverback
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My daddy was a Bircher. Kinda lost me with the "Ike was a commie" stuff.
Out of curiosity did the John Birch Society have something to do with Knotts Berry Farm in Buena Park Ca.?
We fit the crunchy con label and we are ultra conservative.
I don't know, why? Was the owner a Bircher?
You should read the book; "The Politician" by Robert Welch. Nowhere in that book did he ever claim that Ike was a commie. He did, however, expose Ike's propensity to support the commies. Also his two-faced political career.
I think he was a Bircher, I just remember hearing that Birchers were really prejudice when I was a kid when I invited one of my friends to Knotts Berry Farm who happened to be jewish her parents would not let her go because of John Birch Society.
This was the day when Knotts Berry Farm had the best chicken, bisquits and Boysenberry juice ever!!!
My grandparents were Crunchy Conservatives when being a Crunchy Con wasn't cool! ;) They were good, honest folks who owned a farm, made a living, raised their children and retired.
Probably too much is being made about what makes someone a Crunchy Con. It's not what you wear or where you live, etc. It's what you believe. My guess is there are many, many folks who consider themselves Crunchy Cons and they still buy vegetables from the store, don't make their own granola, don't own a certain brand of footwear, etc, etc.
Oh, Yes! We visited there and ate there many times when we lived in CA. Loved that food!
Here's where the liberal (commie?) lame-stream media has made their best effort at hindering our work: The idea that the JBS is full of prejudiced people is simply false. Prejudiced people are not allowed to join.
In fact, there are members of every race and religion in the JBS. Also, in fact, if anyone expresses any racial, ethnic, or otherwise prejudiced statement, he will be removed from the society. It has happened.
Thanks for the clarification! you hear so much stuff constantly which I know from the liberal community is 90% false.!
Knotts Berry Farm was a great place until it became strictly a commercial venture amusement park! :(
Miss the old days alot!
Check this website out:
I think you will find yourself being surprised.
I no longer post the JBS website link because that has a tendancy to kill threads.
I will do that...
In the Internet age, we believe that things are resolved by people yelling at each other until one of them wins. But external conditions and necessities are often the determining factors. If gas prices rise, or there's some environmental or public health catastrophy, people will become "crunchier" and more environmental almost in spite of themselves and what they think now. At that point, what Dreher advocates will be taken for granted. Until then, the debate is bound to just go in circles and not get anywhere.
It's human to want what one doesn't have. Today, people turn "crunchy," unplug appliances, and go "back to the land." Their kids will gaze longingly at SUVS and everything that their parents rejected. People are like that.
To the crunchies goes the munchies. The world is populated with a lot of folk with slightly different opinions on a few items. heheh.
I sure hope you're right about homeschooled kids! They are definitely smarter and have something the ps kids don't have.... critical thinking skills.
One of the smartest young people I've met in a long time was a young Orthodox Jewish girl who went to a private school (not homeschooled) and has her own views on everything - very conservative. She's just a lovely young lady and really made me feel somewhat positive about our future, which is good, because I often feel a little pessimistic at times.
We're also looking to get hybrid cars that we can convert to PLUG-IN hybrids, that can be charged during the day from our photovoltaic cells. ;o)
Crunchy Cons, indeed!
Nah, you only really need boots if the weather is in the teens, or if there's a lot of slush.
Your plans sound lovely!
We plan on being off the grid to a great extent in the future. We want a simple place further north and then we'll spend half the year in Mexico running our beachside bar. :)
For now we have to spend the next ten years building our business so we can sell it for Big Bucks and retire by the time we're 55.
We're "Crunchy-Capitalist-Cons," I guess, LOL!
Are you series? I'm stuned.
Why should there be? If someone else wants to watch South Park that's fine with me. I don't happen to like it myself, but it's not my place to tell anyone else what THEY can or should watch.
Well in my "Not So Small" 4000sf solar powered and heated dream house, I want some big a$$ appliances precisely BECAUSE I like to cook. My kitchen is my workshop and I want good tools!
We found a manufacturer that makes metal roofing with photovoltaic cells inbedded in the material. Haven't found out how much it is, but photovoltaic is still too expensive for full conversion because of the cost of the panels. When they come down in price, the return on investment will be more reasonable.
They just profiled that roofing material on HGTV recently. They did mention the price and it was very high, but I can't recall what it was. Why not geothermal heating for water?
We looked into geothermal, but it was hideously expensive. Now that could be because we're in MA, I don't know. We hope to move back South, so that's where all this will take place, someday.
I'll have to look on the HGTV website to see if they have a link to the roofing you saw.
I believe the show is called "I Want That". It looked exactly like a wood shingle.
Those are the ones I saw at the Uni-solar site. I checked it out after the President was there last week. At one point they were doing a flexible fabric that was a solar collecter. Apparently they are so backlogged, that they aren't even going to start selling the 64W roof module until May of 2006, and that's all they'll be selling then.
Many (though certainly not all) Orthodox Jews fit the bill as "crunchy cons." Most of their money goes toward educating their children or spending for the Sabbath & holidays. Although materialism has encroached on their society as well, many manage to live quite modestly.
I believe, anyway, that conservatism breeds modesty. It's the nature of the beast. Someone who is traditional in his values & lifestyle seems to lead a more simple life. Consumerism is tied in with ego -- the need to draw attention to oneself. The more one's attention is turned toward G-d, the less self-centered, period. And the more incentive to want to pass on values to children -- as well as have children. Liberals by their very nature have fewer children, or none at all.
Thats because Christians understandor should, at leasthow pervasive what writer Dan Knauss calls the porno-culture is. This pervasiveness is why protecting our kids requires diligence and commitment. Drehers crunchy conservativesmostly crunchy Christiansare reminders of what the apostle Peter meant when he called followers of Christ a peculiar people. And its why these hip homeschooling mamas and right-wing nature lovers are worthy of our respect, no matter what they wear on their feet or how much granola they eat.
Very nice. Thank you.
We aren't anti-technology. We have three cell phones and four computers in our house which help us connect with the world. We also don't think technology is the answer for everything. We aren't into status, but we don't begrudge those who have it. We know money doesn't buy happiness -- but we also know it can be very useful! We are devout Christians. We support the Second Amendment and the proposed marriage amendment defining marriage as a union between one man and one woman. We're pro-life. I prefer my New Balance tennies to Birkenstocks.
Some around here would call me a RINO, but I'm solidly conservative. It's nice to know I'm not alone.
I'm going to get the book. I saw the author interviewed this morning on FOX and he's pretty interesting.
No thanks...appreciate the artistry but just can't get into it. Give me Motown and Stax stuff any day.
Just the really hot and cold parts at the poles and the deserts. And Massachussetts and New Jersey.
Amen! Great post, and my wife and I are so glad to know there are kindred spirits out there. We start homeschooling next year, and then I am opening an independent Catholic school, which will tend to attract families with views similar to ours. Keep up the great work!
Yeah, I eat tofu, hug trees, cry at bunny funerals, plant my veges, dance in drum circles, spend my own money on charities etc.
I think it just boils down to having core beliefs in common. The rest is just window dressing.
We are a nation of individuals.... ;)
You're added! I'm also adding you to the Wisconsin FREEPNORAD alert list. Hope you don't mind.
There is a lot of truth in your short message. I happen to be a Christian but I'm afraid that I like nice things and sometimes I can get caught up in it all. It's not really an ego thing, it's more, I think, because I truly love beautiful art, music, and so on. I notice it and so I can't stand things when they are "uglified." So, for example, if the carpet gets bad, I want new carpet. I can't help it. However, one nice thing about beauty is simplicity has its own beauty and one can have beautiful things without spending a lot of $. Anyway, I do design work so I guess it's just an innate part of me.
I will NEVER understand why people think only libs care about the environment, animals and so on. God has blessed us with the earth and all that is in it and part of that blessing is for us to thank him by taking CARE of it. I am not a PETA person either or an environmental wacko or any such thing, but I know our resources are finite and I want to be a good steward of all of our blessings.
Oh, and even the Bible talks about not abusing our "beasts."
Glad you love what you do - I'm not sure I like name tags for everyone anyway - too limiting in scope.
I have old STAX records (boy did you bring back memories) but I love chamber music too!!!!!
Life is grand, aint it?
Works for me.
Wanted to also let you know that I sent the article on to my socialist BIL. The e-mail I got back from him was INSANE. I guess I'm not allowed to be conservative and touch ANY of the issues that his Marxist Party have co-opted, LOL!
What a loon.
Just another example of the Leftist inability to cope with diversity of thought. Cheers!
"Birkenstock Burkeans" my rear end. PJ O'Rourke had a more accurate sobriquet. "Birkenstock Bolsheviks."
My mom worked full time while my father was minister of small churches earning less than 2000 bucks a year. It was not until we were grown that she was able to stay home. Her job meant we were able to wear shoes and eat meat.
Like the man said, people do lots of different things to preserve the family.
So do I. Unfortunately, I have champagne tastes on a beer budget, so I have to control myself.
There's nothing wrong with appreciating nice things. Maybe people like us help keep artisans, etc. in business. It's just the blind acquisition, or consmerism as an end in itself, that's wrong.
Unfortunately, even traditional societies fall prey to the need to keep up appearances, especially when it determines their status & choice of marriage partners. It would be nice if everyone could live simply & within his means. Alas, reality can be a different matter.
I know what you mean. My husband and I have had some very nice cars over the years but have also bought used cars - nothing ostentatious or really envy-worthy, though I did own one of the Ford Explorers when they first came on the scene and people stopped me all the time to ask about it. I loved it BTW - this was when gasoline was reasonable too.
We keep our cars til they die and we don't buy the really lux cars either. In fact, we do a lot of things very frugally - don't eat out much for instance. My husband says my food is better than most we get out anyway, so guess that's a double blessing.
I think the Lord just wants us to be smart with what we have and, as you said, not get caught up in trying to outdo other people or maybe just try to look like we have what they have. A lot of people have nice houses with absolutely nothing in them.