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I'm not a crunchy con (I wouldn't be caught dead in Birkenstocks) but I do share some of their values. For years my wife stayed home with the kids, now I do it while she does nursing, and I do some writing on a part-time basis.

Home schooled kids will be running the country in 20 years. Count on it.

There are links to further information at the source document.

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1 posted on 03/07/2006 6:08:20 AM PST by Mr. Silverback
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2 posted on 03/07/2006 6:09:58 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (GOP Blend Coffee--"Coffee for Conservative Taste!" Go to www.gopetc.com)
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Interesting post!

I know people like this through Church connections. The ones I know aren't hard-core conservatives--for example, welfare doesn't frost their buns nearly as badly as it does mine--but they do believe in giving generously, and don't believe in giving away other people's money. Similarly, they believe in being "good stewards" of the planet, but they don't go in for Greenpeace. They don't believe in adultery, but they also don't believe in stoning. "Conservatives in birks" is not a bad description of these folks.

Disclaimer: I own a pair of cork sandals, but they aren't birks. I don't wear them, though, because sandals seem to promote stinky feet like crazy.

3 posted on 03/07/2006 6:13:48 AM PST by Shalom Israel (There's a reason cows ain't extinct.)
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>>>>“a society dedicated to the multiplication of wants and the intensification of desire, not the improvement of character.”


Go three days living off the land with a spear and sleeping with a bear skin rug. Then come and tell me how much it improves your character. Crunchy Cons should immediately have their Cell Phones confiscated, their HBO unplugged and get made to go out in nature and practice what they breach.

"Birkenstock Burkeans" my rear end. PJ O'Rourke had a more accurate sobriquet. "Birkenstock Bolsheviks."
4 posted on 03/07/2006 6:15:48 AM PST by .cnI redruM (Spreading liberal beliefs is as wrong as spreading AIDS.)
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ECO-PING

FReepmail me to be added or removed to the ECO-PING list!

Crunchy-Con ping...

5 posted on 03/07/2006 6:15:57 AM PST by GreenFreeper (Not blind opposition to progress, but opposition to blind progress)
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There are many ways to reject mass-market, no-brain popular culture.

See you at the chamber music recital...


6 posted on 03/07/2006 6:23:57 AM PST by proxy_user
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"...if you’re like me, you’d probably think, well, there goes a lefty, or a liberal, or maybe an aging hippie.."

I guess I'm not like him.

Actually, I'd be resisting the urge to punch that hippy filth in the face as hard as I could. That kind of dicispline requires alot of concentration, and would be all I was thinking about.


7 posted on 03/07/2006 6:26:28 AM PST by Gefreiter ("Are you drinking 1% because you think you're fat?")
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This is new? How do they differ from the Mennonites or Apostolic Christians? And then you have the Amish, who have them all beat when it comes to working with nature and being self sufficient.
8 posted on 03/07/2006 6:26:46 AM PST by TruthBeforeAll (NAZI-ism: A belief that human perfection is as easy to achieve as mechanical perfection.)
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Own any Earth Shoes ?


9 posted on 03/07/2006 6:27:42 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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I'm seeing the rise of the Limbaugh Babies now! And loving every minute of it. My out-of-college kids are probably a little more conservative than my hubby and I.....and that's going some!


11 posted on 03/07/2006 6:40:45 AM PST by trimom
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Ahh, you ought to try Birkenstocks! They are really, REALLY comfortable! I'm not in that guy's book, but my family could be. Been home schooling for 16 years, we make do or do without. My kids are old enough to appreciate their upbringing and have thanked us for it.


12 posted on 03/07/2006 6:41:03 AM PST by Vor Lady (Mal, "Remember, we just want to scare him." Jayne, "Pain is scarey!")
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bump


16 posted on 03/07/2006 6:51:37 AM PST by VOA
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“gun-loving organic” farmers, and “right-wing nature lovers.”

You rang? LOL!

Please add me to your ping list, Mr. Silverback. :)


17 posted on 03/07/2006 6:52:33 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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There is absolutely nothing inherently contradictory about being a "right wing nature lover." Don't a lot of right wingers live in the countryside?

Some schools of conservatism (such as the European kind) have always had a deep distrust of "alienation from nature." Unfortunately, they also tend to interpet such alienation as Jewish (some idiots even claim that Jews have never practiced agriculture).

It always burns my biscuits when conservatives imply that nature is "the enemy" and that only man was created by G-d. Who created nature . . . the Devil?

18 posted on 03/07/2006 6:53:43 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Zakhor 'et 'asher-`asah lekha `Amaleq baderekh betzei'tkhem miMitzrayim.)
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Interesting read.

The older I get the more I appreciate comfortable shoes...even if they do cost a bit more than my WalMart sandals. I don't homeschool, but have considered doing so and it is still an alternative. We support our local animal shelters, yet not PETA. I choose to not feed my family veal, yet don't tackle others in the grocery store who do. I support truthful drug education for your youth, yet do not support the current War on Drugs. I still feel that many of societies ills come from the demise of traditional family values.

Some conservatives have called me a flake. Frosted, corn or crunchy I don't know.

26 posted on 03/07/2006 7:12:48 AM PST by sweet_diane (Bush bashers do not speak for me.)
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Rod Dreher is brilliant.

Anyone who is honest and thinks for himself will be a maverick of some kind.

This is one of the things that make Leftists so insufferably boring: They cannot think for themselves. They are slaves to appearances, fashion, and groupthink. And they cannot be honest. If they were truthful and capable of original thinking they wouldn't be Leftists in the first place.

I do not like labels and categories--including "crunchy conservative." In fact, I do not consider myself to be "conservative". I am myself; that's it.

I love my Birkenstock sandals. I like granola but do not make my own. My wife and I are both strict vegetarians. Neither of us is a Leftist. We are both liberal. (Note tagline.)

I have an arsenal of guns, and I know how to use them. However, I hate hunting. We do not allow it on our property. My lawn is a mess because of the wild animals, but I'd rather have them--and watch them enjoying life--than have a pretty lawn.

My wife and I live in The Middle of Nowhere. And do we love it! Yesssssssssss! No neighbors. Pristine beauty everywhere. No noise. Yet windows on the world everywhere, including the internet and access to travel.

Yes. The pornographic culture that surrounds us is corrosive, but we and our children have successfully protected ourselves from it. The world around us is also filled with wonderful, wholesome, loveable people, full of beauty and intelligence and ideas and education, and our lives are filled with these people.

As for marriage and family: I have been married to the same beautiful, brilliant, wholesome, wonderful woman (advanced degrees, Phi Beta Kappa, et al.!) for 45 years! I'm the only man who has ever made love to her.

Each of my children has been through college three times. One's a successful engineer, in Mensa. One's a physician. All are Republicans!

I walked away from a prestigious job--and 6 million dollars worth of contracts--back in the early '90s when $6,000,000 was serious money. I have never regretted it.

I sent my children to private schools because the public schools were a mess. I didn't like it. I prefer public schools. My wife and I went to them. It was an excellent education in life--being thrown at random with all the people in the community around you. I helps build character. It also shows you what the world is like. I should have sent my children to public schools. I wish I had, but they turned out very well just the same.

I came from a poor family, worked my way through college, earned every penny I have. My wife was from a wealthy family, but we lived on what I could earn, slept on a box springs supported by concrete blocks, at on a card table, cooked on a hotplate. I payed for four years of college for my wife (her parents were dysfunctional).

I also paid for all my children's education, and I set up a college scholarship program for the indigent and sent I-don't-know-how-many people to college.

Because my mother had to drop out of college after her freshman year (her debonaire and well educated father was a horrible alcoholic), I got her though college too. She paid for it, but I enrolled with her, studied with her every night, and, dispite her lack of self-confidence, got her through the most difficult of courses, and she graduated!

Because I earned plenty of money, I gave my children everything and anything they wanted--expensive trips, gadgets, clothes, cars--you name it! It had a wonderful effect on them. You cannot overindulge a child too much IF you also instill good values, a strong sense of self-worth, and--above all--love them.

My children are the opposite of materialistic! They are not in the least interested in having "stuff". They are fascinated by things of the mind, love, wholesome relationships--all the things that my wife and I value.

However I am definitely a capitalist!

And I am definitely a Christian!

As far as the environment goes-- We have all been committed to protecting the environment for a long, long time. We all recycle regularly. Protect animals and the forests. Never pollute.

For a long time, my wife and I were enthusiastic about the "environmentalist movement". However, when I realized just what this is all about I recoiled in disgust.

I have never seen a more odious gang of sadistic bullies in one group as I have seen in the "environmentalist movement".

NEVER give one penny to an "environmentalist charity"!

This is the best rule of thumb: If the "environmentalists" are for it, oppose it; if they are against it, support it.

30 posted on 03/07/2006 7:23:15 AM PST by Savage Beast (Do not refer to Leftists as "Liberals;" there's nothing liberal about those people.)
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Crunchy cons ping!


31 posted on 03/07/2006 7:29:29 AM PST by Pyro7480 (Sancte Joseph, terror daemonum, ora pro nobis!)
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Crunchy ping!


32 posted on 03/07/2006 7:31:01 AM PST by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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This may interest you.


38 posted on 03/07/2006 7:39:24 AM PST by Pyro7480 (Sancte Joseph, terror daemonum, ora pro nobis!)
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I think there are many, many conservatives who at least partially fit the profile Colson is talking about.

For example, a majority of home-schoolers are conservative. But most have given up income and "stuff" to pursue something they believe is more important.

There is also a species of conservative I find puzzling and I'm sure others do as well. These are the conservatives who not only want to use natural resources for legitimate reasons, but only seem happy if resources are extracted with as much waste and destruction as possible. I'm talking about those who not only want to cut down the forest because human beings need wood, but want to cut down forests because they seem to get a kick out of it. A lot of these conservatives also seem offended by those who don't use every waking moment making money in order to buy "the latest version of the latest version". They seem to think of that as letting down the capitalism team.

I'm not sure how being smart and careful in using resources was ever disassociated with conservatism. It used to be a core value of conservatism.

45 posted on 03/07/2006 8:28:11 AM PST by Semi Civil Servant (The Main Stream Media: Al-Qaeda's most effective spy network.)
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We fit the crunchy con label and we are ultra conservative.


53 posted on 03/07/2006 9:07:14 AM PST by kalee
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