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North America’s 'Loch Ness Monster' Spotted Again
Live Science ^ | today | Joe Nickell

Posted on 03/07/2006 10:49:06 AM PST by GreenFreeper

Dubbed “North America’s Loch Ness Monster,” the purported leviathan of Lake Champlain, “Champ,” has just resurfaced. On Feb. 22, 2006, Good Morning America aired exclusive video footage of “something” just below the surface of the water, possibly the lake’s fabled creature.

A pair of Vermont men, Dick Affolter and his 34-year-old stepson, Pete Bodette, had made the digital recordings the previous summer while salmon fishing. ABC consulted two retired FBI forensic image analysts, who concluded that the video appeared authentic, although they could not say what it depicted.

The incident added to a long list of Champ sightings, which have described a chameleonesque creature that is black, gray, brown, moss green, reddish bronze or other colors, and is between 10 and 187 feet long, with multiple humps or coils as well as horns or a mane or glowing eyes or “jaws like an alligator”—or none of those features.

Such sightings may be due to large fish like sturgeon, schools of fish, and other marine creatures. For example, otters, swimming in a line, can mimic a single long, serpentine creature moving in an undulating fashion. Other Champ suspects include wind slicks, boat wakes, driftwood, long-necked birds, and many other possibilities. A contributing factor is “expectant attention,” the tendency of people who, expecting to see something, are misled by anything resembling it.

Although many people believe that Lake Champlain may host a dinosaur-era creature, that is unlikely in the extreme since is the lake was formed only some 10,000 years ago.

Furthemore, a single creature could not live for centuries, nor could it reproduce itself, so there would have to be a breeding population for the species to have continued to the present. And—if there were indeed multiple plesiosaurs, zeuglodons, or other leviathans—over time a beached carcass or other certain trace of one would surely present itself. What's Down There?

The sightings could be explained by several otters, such as this one, swimming together...

... Or maybe people are seeing a longnose gar.

Image Credits: USFWS (top); Ohio Department of Natural Resources (lower)

Nevertheless, the two fishermen insisted they had seen something strange. Bodette stated that the creature was “as big around as my thigh.” Affolter admitted neither of them ever saw the entire body, although they estimated the length at 10 to 15 feet. In a report on the video, the Burlington Free Press observed (Aug. 18, 2005), “In one frame it almost looks as if the head of an alligator-like animal breaks the surface. . . .”

The newspaper noted that the Champ legend dated from 1609 when French explorer Samuel de Champlain described a creature the Native Americans called Chaousarou. In his journal, Champlain wrote that the species was reputed to range up to 10 feet long and that he had personally seen some half that length and “as big as my thigh”—words subsequently echoed by eyewitness Bodette. Champlain noted that Chaousarou resembled a pike with an exceedingly long snout and “dangerous teeth”—certainly alligator-like features. In short, Champlain’s description seemingly tallies with the creature the Vermont fishermen encountered.

The apparent match is instructive: the explorer was almost certainly describing a longnose gar, one of the Ganoidei subclass, which includes sturgeons and other varieties.

Although the video is insufficient for a positive identification, the men’s description does permit this tentative solution to the mystery. For four centuries gar have been astonishing people on Lake Champlain. During one of my investigative trips to the lake I interviewed a fisherman who had just witnessed a friend hook a longnose gar that—he insisted—was “monster” sized, measuring about 6 feet 4 inches long. He called this “the real Champ,” and dubbed it, appropriately, “Gar-gantua.”


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KEYWORDS: champ; champy; cryptobiology; cryptozoology; ecoping; environment; lakechamplain; lochness; wildlife
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1 posted on 03/07/2006 10:49:10 AM PST by GreenFreeper
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To: GreenFreeper

"Although many people believe that Lake Champlain may host a dinosaur-era creature, that is unlikely in the extreme since is the lake was formed only some 10,000 years ago."

lol


2 posted on 03/07/2006 10:51:01 AM PST by Bingo Jerry (Bing-freaking-go!)
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To: blam; Carry_Okie; Chanticleer; ClearCase_guy; cogitator; CollegeRepublican; ...
ECO-PING

FReepmail me to be added or removed to the ECO-PING list!

Interesting day for sea creatures!

3 posted on 03/07/2006 10:51:04 AM PST by GreenFreeper (Not blind opposition to progress, but opposition to blind progress)
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To: GreenFreeper
" which have described a chameleonesque creature that is black, gray, brown, moss green, reddish bronze or other colors, and is between 10 and 187 feet long, with multiple humps or coils as well as horns or a mane or glowing eyes or “jaws like an alligator”—or none of those features. "

I hope none of these witnesses ever have to go and testify what they saw in court!

4 posted on 03/07/2006 10:51:43 AM PST by Abathar (Proudly catching hell for posting without reading since 2004)
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To: GreenFreeper
Here's another pic, captured at just the right moment:


5 posted on 03/07/2006 10:51:55 AM PST by RockinRight (Attention RNC...we're the party of Reagan, not FDR...)
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To: RockinRight

We're going to need a bigger boat.


6 posted on 03/07/2006 10:52:35 AM PST by Toto_for_breakfast
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To: RockinRight

Hey! Hey! Some of us are eating!


7 posted on 03/07/2006 10:53:03 AM PST by Spruce (Keep your mitts off my wallet)
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To: parsifal
Would you believe this popped up today. Coincidence? I think not!
8 posted on 03/07/2006 10:54:32 AM PST by GreenFreeper (Not blind opposition to progress, but opposition to blind progress)
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To: RockinRight

Alright I need to post article that will not prompt people to post pictures of Helen.


9 posted on 03/07/2006 10:55:14 AM PST by GreenFreeper (Not blind opposition to progress, but opposition to blind progress)
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To: Spruce

Not anymore


10 posted on 03/07/2006 10:55:36 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: GreenFreeper

About once every 20 years, something that size bumps a boat in the Delaware River between Trenton and Philadelphia. Sturgeons, once plentiful there, are still reputed to be in the river but are rarely seen.


11 posted on 03/07/2006 10:56:28 AM PST by jjmcgo (Patriarch of the Occident since March 1, 2006)
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To: Bingo Jerry
between 10 and 187 feet long

Yep. And I'm somewhere between 1 and 50 feet tall.

12 posted on 03/07/2006 10:57:22 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It. Pray for Our Troops!)
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To: GreenFreeper
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13 posted on 03/07/2006 10:57:44 AM PST by digger48
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To: GreenFreeper

14 posted on 03/07/2006 10:58:09 AM PST by Muleteam1 (It's a mad, mad, mad, mad world but the comedians have all left the room.)
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To: GreenFreeper

I believe the 2 men mentioned in the article also saw a UFO, before they were overcome by the swamp gas.......... :-)


15 posted on 03/07/2006 10:58:38 AM PST by Pragmatic Warrior (Grow your own dope. Plant a liberal)
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To: Pragmatic Warrior

the last thing they knew they were hearing humans voices coming out of a pocket radio! Imagine that!


16 posted on 03/07/2006 11:01:53 AM PST by Republicus2001
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To: GreenFreeper

Has Ted Kennedy been seen dating in the area?


17 posted on 03/07/2006 11:03:39 AM PST by Spok (Est omnis de civilitate.)
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To: GreenFreeper

18 posted on 03/07/2006 11:03:48 AM PST by ASA Vet (Would you throw a bucket of water on Hillary if her broom were on fire?)
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To: GreenFreeper

A sea-otter? Glow-bull warning for the gullah-bull.


19 posted on 03/07/2006 11:04:06 AM PST by dhuffman@awod.com (The conspiracy of ignorance masquerades as common sense.)
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To: pcottraux

Aren't you supposed to be pinged for these?

:-)


20 posted on 03/07/2006 11:05:40 AM PST by Hoodlum91 (pcottraux says I'm special!)
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To: RockinRight

21 posted on 03/07/2006 11:09:00 AM PST by reagan_fanatic (Darwinism is a belief in the meaninglessness of existence - R. Kirk)
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To: GreenFreeper

Lake Champlain area tourism board alert! Summer is just around the corner.


22 posted on 03/07/2006 11:13:41 AM PST by hadaclueonce (shoot low, they are riding Shetlands.....)
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To: GreenFreeper
The sightings could be explained by several otters...

...but they ain't talking.

23 posted on 03/07/2006 11:14:21 AM PST by Tennessee_Bob ("Those who "abjure" violence can only do so because others are committing violence on their behalf.")
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To: hadaclueonce

"Lake Champlain area tourism board alert! Summer is just around the corner."

LOL! Probably spot on.


24 posted on 03/07/2006 11:16:46 AM PST by L98Fiero
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To: GreenFreeper
LMAO...

Joe Nickell, Ph.D., a former stage magician, private detective and teacher of literature, is now a paranormal investigator and co-author of the book "Lake Monster Mysteries," to be published in May.

25 posted on 03/07/2006 11:22:25 AM PST by Fruitbat
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To: Fruitbat
I caught that too...a good chuckle.
26 posted on 03/07/2006 11:27:18 AM PST by GreenFreeper (Not blind opposition to progress, but opposition to blind progress)
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To: GreenFreeper

LOL...

I'm still laughing at it. Should be an interesting book.


27 posted on 03/07/2006 11:28:14 AM PST by Fruitbat
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To: RockinRight
That is a scary monster.
28 posted on 03/07/2006 11:29:35 AM PST by zip ((Remember: DimocRat lies told often enough become truth to 48% of all Americans (NRA))))
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To: GreenFreeper

"I ain't givin' you no tree-fitty, you goddamn Loch Ness Monster! Get your own goddamn money!"


29 posted on 03/07/2006 11:55:29 AM PST by MinnesotaLibertarian
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To: GreenFreeper
Heyyy little girl! Ah gotcher "champ" right here.


30 posted on 03/07/2006 12:01:37 PM PST by Hatteras
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To: Hatteras
Cronkite with a Bitch'n Boner. LOL
31 posted on 03/07/2006 12:05:30 PM PST by fish hawk (TU)
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To: Hatteras

ROFLMAO!!!! How can that be though, the Hildebeast is with him?


32 posted on 03/07/2006 12:10:02 PM PST by proud_yank (Liberalism - The 'Culture of Ignorance'.)
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To: Republicus2001

What a frightening concept!! :-)

Whats next?? A box with visual images??


33 posted on 03/07/2006 12:14:03 PM PST by Pragmatic Warrior (Grow your own dope. Plant a liberal!!)
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To: GreenFreeper
" Interesting day for sea creatures!"
There crawling and creeping around the boat mateys. Man the harpoon. All I will say is if these fresh water landlocked animals turn out to be plesiosaurs or elasmosaurs, someone is going to have a little bit of explaining to do.
34 posted on 03/07/2006 12:15:02 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: proud_yank

Perhaps Walter turns on Slick Willie, NOT The Hildebeast!! :-)


35 posted on 03/07/2006 12:15:37 PM PST by Pragmatic Warrior (Grow your own dope. Plant a liberal!!)
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To: proud_yank

Heh, heh... notice how she stationed herself on the other side of the boat.

"Ewwww... GET THAT THING AWAY FROM ME!!!"


36 posted on 03/07/2006 12:18:16 PM PST by Hatteras
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To: Hatteras

Has this photo been altered in any way?


37 posted on 03/07/2006 12:19:14 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: jjmcgo

Could be a 18 great Atlantic hammerhead that are known to frequent the bay. About fifteen year ago a fishing friend of my dads was out on his 18 footer in the bay for an overnighter, and got scared out of his shoes, and dropped his Bud, when an enourmouse mouth was seen at the transom of his boat. He said eyes where easily over four feet at the ends, with one hell of a huge mouth. The shark literally lifted itself high enough to peer into his boat, with the lantern providing light. Needless to say, he decided to head home.


38 posted on 03/07/2006 12:21:42 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: Pragmatic Warrior

AAaaaack!!


39 posted on 03/07/2006 12:24:40 PM PST by proud_yank (Liberalism - The 'Culture of Ignorance'.)
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To: Hatteras
"Ewwww... GET THAT THING AWAY FROM ME!!!"

She doesn't know where its been.
40 posted on 03/07/2006 12:25:13 PM PST by proud_yank (Liberalism - The 'Culture of Ignorance'.)
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To: proud_yank

ROTFLMAO!!


41 posted on 03/07/2006 12:29:01 PM PST by Pragmatic Warrior (Grow your own dope. Plant a liberal!!)
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To: Hatteras
That used to be the wallpaper on my office machine.

People assumed I was a clinton fan, never actually seeing what's in he circle.

Austin is strange.

42 posted on 03/07/2006 12:29:26 PM PST by txhurl
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To: GreenFreeper
... is between 10 and 187 feet long ...

Sounds like a fish story.

"Shoot, yea, I saw it.!"
"How big would you say it was?"
"Oh, I reckon anywhere between 10 and a 100, uh, er, a 187 feet long."

43 posted on 03/07/2006 12:45:59 PM PST by manwiththehands
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To: ASA Vet

Oarfish held by SEALs. I remember that from a post here on FR.

I found a small one (6') on the beach once and am kicking myself for not recovering and preserving it. They are deep sea dwellers and striking to look at with their bright chrome color and bright red dorsal.


44 posted on 03/07/2006 12:50:14 PM PST by Cold Heart
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To: Cold Heart

Exactly, and it was me that posted the original too.


45 posted on 03/07/2006 12:51:50 PM PST by ASA Vet (Would you throw a bucket of water on Hillary if her broom were on fire?)
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To: Hoodlum91; Angelas; presidio9; Idisarthur; Hegemony Cricket; A knight without armor; new cruelty; ..
Thanks, Hoodlum.

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46 posted on 03/07/2006 3:05:58 PM PST by pcottraux (It's pronounced "P. Coe-troe.")
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To: pcottraux
Come on down here and get yourself one of these. I think the state record is around 400lbs, caught in extremely shallow water to boot....


47 posted on 03/07/2006 4:07:32 PM PST by SandfleaCSC ( “Alcohol may be man's worst enemy, but the bible says love your enemy.”)
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between 10 and 187 feet long
Heh heh... that kinda narrows it down...
48 posted on 03/07/2006 6:18:04 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Yes indeed, Civ updated his profile and links pages again, on Monday, March 6, 2006.)
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did somebody say, Otter?

49 posted on 03/07/2006 6:24:23 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Yes indeed, Civ updated his profile and links pages again, on Monday, March 6, 2006.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Well maybe they are multiplying :)

Then you got you're really small ones and youre adults.
And ofcourse the males have horns but the females don't, and some have different colourations, and when their maul is open you can see teeth but if it is closed you can not, and the fins can be raised to look like manes.

That explains all sightings! Or, they're simply couple o' dozen different species and objects all mistaken for one beasty.


50 posted on 03/08/2006 2:23:13 AM PST by S0122017 (My sister is a communist.)
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