Posted on 03/07/2006 10:49:06 AM PST by GreenFreeper

Dubbed North Americas Loch Ness Monster, the purported leviathan of Lake Champlain, Champ, has just resurfaced. On Feb. 22, 2006, Good Morning America aired exclusive video footage of something just below the surface of the water, possibly the lakes fabled creature.
A pair of Vermont men, Dick Affolter and his 34-year-old stepson, Pete Bodette, had made the digital recordings the previous summer while salmon fishing. ABC consulted two retired FBI forensic image analysts, who concluded that the video appeared authentic, although they could not say what it depicted.
The incident added to a long list of Champ sightings, which have described a chameleonesque creature that is black, gray, brown, moss green, reddish bronze or other colors, and is between 10 and 187 feet long, with multiple humps or coils as well as horns or a mane or glowing eyes or jaws like an alligatoror none of those features.
Such sightings may be due to large fish like sturgeon, schools of fish, and other marine creatures. For example, otters, swimming in a line, can mimic a single long, serpentine creature moving in an undulating fashion. Other Champ suspects include wind slicks, boat wakes, driftwood, long-necked birds, and many other possibilities. A contributing factor is expectant attention, the tendency of people who, expecting to see something, are misled by anything resembling it.
Although many people believe that Lake Champlain may host a dinosaur-era creature, that is unlikely in the extreme since is the lake was formed only some 10,000 years ago.
Furthemore, a single creature could not live for centuries, nor could it reproduce itself, so there would have to be a breeding population for the species to have continued to the present. Andif there were indeed multiple plesiosaurs, zeuglodons, or other leviathansover time a beached carcass or other certain trace of one would surely present itself. What's Down There?

The sightings could be explained by several otters, such as this one, swimming together...

... Or maybe people are seeing a longnose gar.
Image Credits: USFWS (top); Ohio Department of Natural Resources (lower)
Nevertheless, the two fishermen insisted they had seen something strange. Bodette stated that the creature was as big around as my thigh. Affolter admitted neither of them ever saw the entire body, although they estimated the length at 10 to 15 feet. In a report on the video, the Burlington Free Press observed (Aug. 18, 2005), In one frame it almost looks as if the head of an alligator-like animal breaks the surface. . . .
The newspaper noted that the Champ legend dated from 1609 when French explorer Samuel de Champlain described a creature the Native Americans called Chaousarou. In his journal, Champlain wrote that the species was reputed to range up to 10 feet long and that he had personally seen some half that length and as big as my thighwords subsequently echoed by eyewitness Bodette. Champlain noted that Chaousarou resembled a pike with an exceedingly long snout and dangerous teethcertainly alligator-like features. In short, Champlains description seemingly tallies with the creature the Vermont fishermen encountered.
The apparent match is instructive: the explorer was almost certainly describing a longnose gar, one of the Ganoidei subclass, which includes sturgeons and other varieties.
Although the video is insufficient for a positive identification, the mens description does permit this tentative solution to the mystery. For four centuries gar have been astonishing people on Lake Champlain. During one of my investigative trips to the lake I interviewed a fisherman who had just witnessed a friend hook a longnose gar thathe insistedwas monster sized, measuring about 6 feet 4 inches long. He called this the real Champ, and dubbed it, appropriately, Gar-gantua.
"Although many people believe that Lake Champlain may host a dinosaur-era creature, that is unlikely in the extreme since is the lake was formed only some 10,000 years ago."
lol
FReepmail me to be added or removed to the ECO-PING list!
Interesting day for sea creatures!
I hope none of these witnesses ever have to go and testify what they saw in court!
We're going to need a bigger boat.
Hey! Hey! Some of us are eating!
Alright I need to post article that will not prompt people to post pictures of Helen.
Not anymore
About once every 20 years, something that size bumps a boat in the Delaware River between Trenton and Philadelphia. Sturgeons, once plentiful there, are still reputed to be in the river but are rarely seen.
Yep. And I'm somewhere between 1 and 50 feet tall.
I believe the 2 men mentioned in the article also saw a UFO, before they were overcome by the swamp gas.......... :-)
the last thing they knew they were hearing humans voices coming out of a pocket radio! Imagine that!
Has Ted Kennedy been seen dating in the area?

A sea-otter? Glow-bull warning for the gullah-bull.
Aren't you supposed to be pinged for these?
:-)
Lake Champlain area tourism board alert! Summer is just around the corner.
...but they ain't talking.
"Lake Champlain area tourism board alert! Summer is just around the corner."
LOL! Probably spot on.
Joe Nickell, Ph.D., a former stage magician, private detective and teacher of literature, is now a paranormal investigator and co-author of the book "Lake Monster Mysteries," to be published in May.
LOL...
I'm still laughing at it. Should be an interesting book.
"I ain't givin' you no tree-fitty, you goddamn Loch Ness Monster! Get your own goddamn money!"
ROFLMAO!!!! How can that be though, the Hildebeast is with him?
What a frightening concept!! :-)
Whats next?? A box with visual images??
Perhaps Walter turns on Slick Willie, NOT The Hildebeast!! :-)
Heh, heh... notice how she stationed herself on the other side of the boat.
"Ewwww... GET THAT THING AWAY FROM ME!!!"
Has this photo been altered in any way?
Could be a 18 great Atlantic hammerhead that are known to frequent the bay. About fifteen year ago a fishing friend of my dads was out on his 18 footer in the bay for an overnighter, and got scared out of his shoes, and dropped his Bud, when an enourmouse mouth was seen at the transom of his boat. He said eyes where easily over four feet at the ends, with one hell of a huge mouth. The shark literally lifted itself high enough to peer into his boat, with the lantern providing light. Needless to say, he decided to head home.
AAaaaack!!
ROTFLMAO!!
People assumed I was a clinton fan, never actually seeing what's in he circle.
Austin is strange.
Sounds like a fish story.
"Shoot, yea, I saw it.!"
"How big would you say it was?"
"Oh, I reckon anywhere between 10 and a 100, uh, er, a 187 feet long."
Oarfish held by SEALs. I remember that from a post here on FR.
I found a small one (6') on the beach once and am kicking myself for not recovering and preserving it. They are deep sea dwellers and striking to look at with their bright chrome color and bright red dorsal.
Exactly, and it was me that posted the original too.
between 10 and 187 feet longHeh heh... that kinda narrows it down...
Well maybe they are multiplying :)
Then you got you're really small ones and youre adults.
And ofcourse the males have horns but the females don't, and some have different colourations, and when their maul is open you can see teeth but if it is closed you can not, and the fins can be raised to look like manes.
That explains all sightings! Or, they're simply couple o' dozen different species and objects all mistaken for one beasty.
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