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Cameras Aimed at Ending Sex Acts
NewsChannel 5 (WTVF - TV) Nashville, TN ^ | March 6, 2006 | WTVF - TV

Posted on 03/07/2006 11:21:59 AM PST by DBeers

You might expect to see cameras taking pictures of beautiful scenic shots at a park. But installing surveillance cameras to prevent lewd behavior would be a first for the city.

Last year, nearly 300 people were cited for indecent exposure in various Metro parks.

So common are the complaints, it's earned Cedar Hill a reputation.

"This is about families taking their children to feed the ducks in the afternoon and being accosted by men doing things that you and I wouldn't even talk about on TV,” said Metro councilman Michael Craddock.

But that hasn't stopped the talk at city council meetings, where members unanimously approved surveillance cameras for parks to prevent public indecency, stopping public sex acts.

"Deviants. That's what these are. There's sexual deviance and you know Cedar Hill Park is listed on national Web sites for homosexual behavior as a place to go for an encounter,” Craddock said.

Cedar Hill is one of three parks that will get the new cameras.

That's where Lisa Osburn walks her dogs twice a week.

"It's hard to stop people from doing what they're going to do if they want to do it bad enough,” Osburn said.

That kind of persistence has kept police busy. Last June undercover officers arrested 12 people at the park for indecent exposure.

And last fall, 92 arrests were made for similar offenses. New surveillance cameras have some critics, but parents who bring their children to play at the park said it's about time.

"When you go out in a public place, I don't think, and when it's got to do with kids, I don't think it's infringing. Not when that kind of reputation's been developed. No,” resident Tom Terry said.

A reputation both parents and city leaders want changed.

"At some point, we're going to take the park back and give it to the people that own it. We're not going to let these deviants have this park,” Craddock said.

The cost for 10 to 15 cameras will be around $20,000. Cedar Hill, Hamilton Creek and Two Rivers will be the first parks to get them.

Cameras are likely to be installed in 60 to 90 days. The parks board is waiting on funding


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Tennessee
KEYWORDS: 4a; 4thamendment; bigbrother; camera; cameras; fourthamendment; homosexualagenda; monitor; oversight; surveillance; tennessee; tn; watching
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1 posted on 03/07/2006 11:22:01 AM PST by DBeers
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To: DBeers

Viewing the tapes, would have to be one of the worlds worst jobs.


2 posted on 03/07/2006 11:24:02 AM PST by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: DBeers
Filthy factory in public demands the bobbit approch to punishment.
3 posted on 03/07/2006 11:24:55 AM PST by brainstem223
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To: stuartcr
Somehow, I think the ACLU's going to get involved. Gay discrimination, or something.
4 posted on 03/07/2006 11:25:24 AM PST by rightinthemiddle (The Liberals/Media Hate Us Just as Much as They Hate Bush.)
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To: DBeers
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5 posted on 03/07/2006 11:25:40 AM PST by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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6 posted on 03/07/2006 11:25:54 AM PST by DBeers ()
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To: DBeers

Could rename the park, Brokeback Park. {just an idea?}


7 posted on 03/07/2006 11:28:09 AM PST by southernerwithanattitude (New and improved redneck)
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To: DBeers; pissant

Of course cameras are aimed at ending sex acts. They call it the "money shot" in the business.


8 posted on 03/07/2006 11:28:14 AM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: DBeers

But, but I thought homosexuals were moral people who occupied the mainstream of America? You mean they're sexual deviants who practice unsafe sex with partners they don't know?

This is not what the MSM is telling me. Could the press have been lying?

Ok, ok....that much sarcasm in one post is giving me a headache.


9 posted on 03/07/2006 11:29:00 AM PST by MissouriConservative (People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid - Kierkegaard)
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To: stuartcr
Viewing the tapes, would have to be one of the worlds worst jobs.

Barney Franks has offered to do this work pro bono.

10 posted on 03/07/2006 11:29:20 AM PST by Coop (FR= a lotta talk, but little action)
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To: DBeers

"300 people were cited for indecent exposure in various Metro parks"

Didn't they arrest a lot of people at Cedar Hill for indecent exposure a while back?


11 posted on 03/07/2006 11:29:59 AM PST by pnz1
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To: DBeers

It didn't stop Paris Hilton!


12 posted on 03/07/2006 11:30:20 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim ("I am the FREERIDER! Sent to strike down the UNCHILDWORTHY!!")
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To: pnz1

Oops, article says they did.


13 posted on 03/07/2006 11:30:38 AM PST by pnz1
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To: Coop

Uhhhh.

Barney Franks has offered to do this work pro boner...


14 posted on 03/07/2006 11:30:51 AM PST by null and void (I nominate Sept 11th: "National Moderate Muslim Day of Tacit Approval". - Mr. Rational, paraphrased)
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To: stuartcr

As we just seen you could edit those tapes and get nominated for an Oscar!


15 posted on 03/07/2006 11:31:06 AM PST by southernerwithanattitude (New and improved redneck)
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To: DBeers

I live in Nashville and, from what I've heard, Centennial Park is notorious for this stuff so I wonder why it's not on the list to get the cameras?


16 posted on 03/07/2006 11:31:39 AM PST by Emmett McCarthy
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To: Tijeras_Slim

The exhibitionists will love it.


17 posted on 03/07/2006 11:32:31 AM PST by Palladin ("Governor Lynn Swann."...it has a nice ring to it!)
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To: null and void

That was my initial post, changed just prior to posting. :-)


18 posted on 03/07/2006 11:34:28 AM PST by Coop (FR= a lotta talk, but little action)
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To: DBeers

I know a way to stop sex acts. Get married.


19 posted on 03/07/2006 11:34:36 AM PST by JackDanielsOldNo7 (If it wasn't for marriage, I would not have this screenname.)
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To: Coop

I woulda changed it too...


20 posted on 03/07/2006 11:35:09 AM PST by null and void (I nominate Sept 11th: "National Moderate Muslim Day of Tacit Approval". - Mr. Rational, paraphrased)
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To: pnz1
Now to read: "300 people were cited for indecent exposure in various MetroSexaul parks"
21 posted on 03/07/2006 11:35:22 AM PST by ChandyB71 (The Democratic Party = MEanderthals...)
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To: southernerwithanattitude

or Bendover Park...........


22 posted on 03/07/2006 11:36:03 AM PST by Red Badger (And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him...)
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To: ChandyB71

Yeah, I hate those MetroSexaul s.......


23 posted on 03/07/2006 11:36:48 AM PST by Red Badger (And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him...)
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To: Coop
Barney Franks has offered to do this work pro bono.

I heard he offered to be bait...

24 posted on 03/07/2006 11:37:31 AM PST by BlueMondaySkipper (The quickest way of ending a war is to lose it. - George Orwell)
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To: DBeers

I would imagine some of them will want copies of the tapes for their own personal enjoyment. LOL


25 posted on 03/07/2006 11:37:36 AM PST by mlc9852
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To: Red Badger
Yeah, I caught that...silly me and my fingers not moving as fast as my brianbrain....
26 posted on 03/07/2006 11:38:01 AM PST by ChandyB71 (The Democratic Party = MEanderthals...)
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To: Emmett McCarthy

Not being in the article may not necessarily mean it isn't. Hopefully, it means all metro parks.

While these folks keep telling us, they are just like us, this is just another example that shows, well, no they aren't. If the public school systems and the teachers unions have their way, more heterosexuals will act this way, but so far, parents are prevailing!


27 posted on 03/07/2006 11:38:16 AM PST by gidget7 (Get GLDSEN out of our schools!!)
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To: DBeers

Our city has a lovely, large walking park in an upscale neighborhood. Unbelievably, the same thing is happening here. Local LEO walk the park in plain clothes, and when propositioned, they arrest the man. The names of those arrested (some of which are professionals - architects, etc.) are listing in the local paper, and the resulting publicity has severely hampered the occurrences.


28 posted on 03/07/2006 11:40:06 AM PST by Quilla
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To: stuartcr

But selling the tapes on Ebay might be quite profitable...


29 posted on 03/07/2006 11:41:00 AM PST by RockinRight (Attention RNC...we're the party of Reagan, not FDR...)
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To: DBeers
It should cut down on indecent behavior in a public space. If sex offenders know they're being watched, they're less likely to offend. That's what's great about camera surveillance - its 24/7 and illegal activity can be monitored even when the police can't be there. To scum pervs: "Don't Think About It - You're On Camera!"

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

30 posted on 03/07/2006 11:41:08 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: stuartcr
Viewing the tapes, would have to be one of the worlds worst jobs.

Especially seeing George Michael over and over.

31 posted on 03/07/2006 11:42:03 AM PST by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: DBeers

With high quality cameras becoming relatively inexpensive I'm guessing there will be a lot of them out there some time soon.


32 posted on 03/07/2006 11:43:21 AM PST by Nova
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To: gidget7

You may be right, but I'd be inclined to overstate the number of places where the cameras were going to be so as to discourage the behaviour more or less pre-emptively. I'd rather stop the behaviour through intimidation than have to use the video in a prosecution which will bring in all the ACLU types.


33 posted on 03/07/2006 11:43:29 AM PST by Emmett McCarthy
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To: DBeers

They ought to take the camera shots of the convicted pervs and show their ugly mugs on the 6pm local news. Or better yet, place their faces on a billboard next to the park, advising people to be aware of the pervs known to frequent the park.


34 posted on 03/07/2006 11:45:00 AM PST by OB1kNOb (America is the land of the free BECAUSE of the BRAVE !!)
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To: DBeers

ah... this place sounds like Atlanta's Piedmont Park


35 posted on 03/07/2006 11:48:01 AM PST by King Prout (many accuse me of being overly literal... this would not be a problem if many were not under-precise)
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To: DBeers

The city council should consider how much they could charge for Internet access to the cameras. Maybe make a few bucks while they do a "study" of the situation.


36 posted on 03/07/2006 11:49:52 AM PST by Nova
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To: MissouriConservative
But, but I thought homosexuals were moral people who occupied the mainstream of America? You mean they're sexual deviants who practice unsafe sex with partners they don't know?

My guess is that it's more a factor of maleness than gayness. You rarely hear about public anonymous lesbian sex. Except on Cinemax at 2AM. But I digress.

37 posted on 03/07/2006 11:50:11 AM PST by ThinkDifferent (Chloe rocks)
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To: stuartcr
Viewing the tapes, would have to be one of the worlds worst jobs.

Right up there with "mopping the floors at a peep show." (From the movie Kingpin).

38 posted on 03/07/2006 11:51:38 AM PST by Pearls Before Swine (Is /sarc really needed?)
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To: stuartcr
Viewing the tapes, would have to be one of the worlds worst jobs.

I'd rather ride a garbage truck.

39 posted on 03/07/2006 11:52:05 AM PST by houeto (Mr. President, close our borders now!)
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To: DBeers

These are the people who want you to accept their perversions as "Normal". They see nothing wrong with hanging around parks and publice rest rooms showing themselves and trying to pick up your kids.
At least women are a bit more discreet, they just become Phys ed instructors and glom the girls in the shower.

Fruits wont be happy till there are peep holes in every high school gym in the land.


40 posted on 03/07/2006 11:53:52 AM PST by sgtbono2002
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This is pretty interesting. MOst of these guys are not really homosexuals. HOmosexuals dont have to resort to this really for gratification. Most seem to be straight guys that have occasional flare ups of same sex attraction. I talked to a few cops that were involved in some undercover stings like in this park situation in my town. Most said that there were two components to this. One that homosexuality really wasnt a driving force but sexually it was more of a voyuer and exhibitionist thing. Also the guys they witnessed and arrested like the game of it and rush that came with breaking sort of a taboo in a semi public place. I know the web site their referring to. I think people would be shocked to find out whats going on in their office building parks, and stores they frequent lol


41 posted on 03/07/2006 11:55:05 AM PST by bayourant
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To: ThinkDifferent
You rarely hear about public anonymous lesbian sex.

When I find one of these spots..do you think I'm going to clue everyone else in?

42 posted on 03/07/2006 12:01:03 PM PST by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: southernerwithanattitude
Northern Kentucky has a park name "Big Bone Lick" it is near Beaver Rd.

There are bones from the salt lick in the park at Monticello brought back by Lewis and Clark
43 posted on 03/07/2006 12:04:44 PM PST by Investment Biker
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To: DBeers
I like this guy. He's not afraid to use words that mean things.

And this:

"It's hard to stop people from doing what they're going to do if they want to do it bad enough,” Osburn said.

If they were punished properly they'd stop. If there's no punishment, but instead public praise, naturally they won't stop.

44 posted on 03/07/2006 12:09:25 PM PST by little jeremiah (Education without values, as useful as it is, seems rather to make man a more clever devil. CS.Lewis)
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To: bayourant
Homosexuals dont have to resort to this really for gratification.

Actually public sex and especially public bathroom sex is part of "gay" culture, and if you think it isn't, you must not have done much reading.

In the UK a couple of years ago there was a big debate in Parliament because some MPs wanted to crack down on public bathroom "gay" sex, and the homosexual activists cried "bigotry", saying anonymous public bathroom sex is part of "gay" culture. There were articles about it on FR.

45 posted on 03/07/2006 12:12:45 PM PST by little jeremiah (Education without values, as useful as it is, seems rather to make man a more clever devil. CS.Lewis)
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To: bayourant
This is pretty interesting. MOst of these guys are not really homosexuals.

How does one define being homosexual? You may want to revise your definition as it seems tainted by the false premise promulgated by leftists, liberals, and homosexual agenda activists...

In the case of male homosexuals, is there some stereotypical definition that comprises several supposedly innate human characteristics e.g. feminine, fashionable, artistic etcetera that defines a homosexual? Is there a homosexual physical and or psychological 'test' that can be administered in a doctors or therapists office?

Homosexuality is all about sex, [it] is objectively only differentiated from the norm (heterosexuality) through sexual activity --as such, [it] is simply defined: Subjectively by 'feelings' of predispostition toward homosexual activity and Objectively by participation in homosexual activity itself. Thus, anyone that engages in homosexual activity is at a minimum homosexual during the homosexual activity...

46 posted on 03/07/2006 12:13:55 PM PST by DBeers ()
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To: DBeers

Just thought of the young kid in the park in "Dirty Harry"...."My friends call me Alice, and I'll do anything on a dare"


47 posted on 03/07/2006 12:14:55 PM PST by NRA1995 (If feminists are so smart, why do they need masturbation workshops?)
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To: bayourant

**MOst of these guys are not really homosexuals. HOmosexuals dont have to resort to this really for gratification.**

I am afraid you don't have a clue of what you are talking about. Gay men have web sites advertising public places to meet. And there are a lot of bisexuals who participate in the public activity along with homosexuals.


48 posted on 03/07/2006 12:16:19 PM PST by Galveston Grl (Getting angry and abandoning power to the Democrats is not a choice.)
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To: bayourant
This is pretty interesting. MOst of these guys are not really homosexuals. HOmosexuals dont have to resort to this really for gratification. Most seem to be straight guys that have occasional flare ups of same sex attraction.

Sure, that's right. Most guys who go to parks and proposition other guys are really heterosexuals. You betcha.

49 posted on 03/07/2006 12:20:15 PM PST by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: DBeers
"Deviants. That's what these are."

We just need more tolerance, acceptance and forgiveness. (/sarc.)

(Koff! Koff! Choke!)

50 posted on 03/07/2006 12:24:19 PM PST by nightdriver
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