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Senate bill outlines '(Illegal Alien) GOLD CARD' program
sTAR-TELEGRAM WASHINGTON BUREAU ^ | Mar. 07, 2006 | DAVE MONTGOMERY

Posted on 03/07/2006 3:52:35 PM PST by VU4G10

WASHINGTON - Key provisions of the Senate's main immigration bill would create a "gold card" program for illegal immigrants who entered the United States before Jan. 4, 2004, and create a guest worker program to bring in more foreign laborers, according to Senate Judiciary Committee staff members.

The committee is to begin debating the measure Wednesday under a three-week timetable aimed at producing a final version for the full Senate by March 27.

Sponsored by the committee chairman, Sen. Arlen Specter, R-Pa., the legislation is designed to strike a middle course between a bill passed by the House that calls for tougher immigration enforcement and the wishes of pro-immigration advocates who call for permanent legal status -- and eventual citizenship -- for an estimated 11 million illegal immigrants.

President Bush, defying objections from conservatives, has called for an overhaul of the nation's immigration laws and the creation of a temporary guest worker program to ensure a steady source of labor for U.S. businesses. Under Bush's plan, qualified workers, including residents now living here illegally, could stay in jobs for up to six years, then would be required to return home.

Committee staff members, speaking on the condition of anonymity, said applicants for the gold card would undergo a background check by the Homeland Security Department, then be eligible for two-year work visas that could be renewed indefinitely. The workers wouldn't participate in the Social Security system but would contribute to future savings via investment accounts.

One top committee staffer described the "gold-card" proposal as "a reasonable compromise" in dealing with illegal immigrants, many of whom have lived here for decades. The undesirable alternative, he said, would be an unworkable massive roundup, which administration officials have said would cost billions of dollars.

Under the separate guest worker program, which would be based on U.S. labor needs, foreign applicants could work for three years, then apply to work for another three years before returning home. They'd be required to remain in their home country for a year before reapplying.

Advocates on both sides of the immigration debate criticized Specter's proposal as an inadequate attempt to placate opposing groups.

"Some people are going to say it's amnesty, and others are going to say it creates a second-class caste of workers," said Tamar Jacoby of the Manhattan Institute, a New York-based think tank that leans right. "It's a non-starter for both sides."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 109th; aliens; amnesty; arlensphincter; bordersecurity; bushamnesty; gopmodsquad; illegal; illegalaliens; immigrantlist; invasionusa; nationalsecurity; openborders; scottishlaw; senate; theusualsuspects

1 posted on 03/07/2006 3:52:36 PM PST by VU4G10
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To: VU4G10

How does this remove the invaders and stop the current tide of invaders?


2 posted on 03/07/2006 3:54:24 PM PST by AZRepublican ("The degree in which a measure is necessary can never be a test of the legal right to adopt it.")
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To: VU4G10

I am so glad that Pres. Bush helped get Senatewhore Sphincter re-elected. not.


3 posted on 03/07/2006 3:57:17 PM PST by dynachrome ("Where am I? Where am I going? Why am I in a handbasket?")
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To: AZRepublican

John and Ken have been talking about this today on KFI in Los Angeles. I'm kind of getting used to this trashing by our government. Beam me up Scotty.


4 posted on 03/07/2006 3:59:13 PM PST by sangoo
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To: VU4G10; Willie Green; Wolfie; ex-snook; Jhoffa_; FITZ; arete; FreedomPoster; Red Jones; Pyro7480; ..
President Bush, defying objections from conservatives, has called for an overhaul of the nation's immigration laws and the creation of a temporary guest worker program to ensure a steady source of labor for U.S. businesses.

"Steady", CHEAP and DOCILE that is.

5 posted on 03/07/2006 3:59:23 PM PST by A. Pole (Hush Bimbo: "Low wage is good for you!")
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To: VU4G10

"gold card"

I hope the anti-ilegal immigration, pro-US groups seize on this name. It will have very negative connentations when used in this context.


6 posted on 03/07/2006 4:03:20 PM PST by ibbryn (this tag intentionally left blank)
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To: ibbryn

You said it. Sounds like a Telly Savalas type will be personally presenting each "undocumented worker" with his gold card.


7 posted on 03/07/2006 4:05:02 PM PST by Caveman Lawyer (Cluckin' defiance)
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To: VU4G10
One top committee staffer described the "gold-card" proposal as "a reasonable compromise" in dealing with illegal immigrants, many of whom have lived here for decades.

A "reasonable compromise"?? Isn't it illegal to be drinking on the job? This isn't a reasonable compromise, it's a scam that'll decimate the middle class.

8 posted on 03/07/2006 4:05:12 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: VU4G10
They will suit their ends by any means. What that means is that anything short of hardcore enforcement of the existing law is nothing more than a whitewash by our elected traitors.
9 posted on 03/07/2006 4:13:56 PM PST by drypowder
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Next time one of these guys asks you for a donation, send them some of these "gold certificates":

Click for link to high quality image sheet to print out.

10 posted on 03/07/2006 4:25:49 PM PST by LegendHasIt
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To: drypowder
This is a joke. Republicans won't enforce the law and the Democrats surely won't. They can ignore our no pesos campaign contributions because they get the big money from corporations and activist orgs. No matter which way we turn, we end up in the same slowly boiling pot.

I don't like it, but someone on the left was right when he said that when the rich get to the point they are not hurt no matter what the economy does, then you are going to have problems.

Right now, the rich elites have no reason to care what happens to the middle class. It will have no effect on their money.
11 posted on 03/07/2006 4:27:28 PM PST by Hawk1976 (A little revolution now and again is a good thing-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: VU4G10

12 posted on 03/07/2006 4:40:13 PM PST by mirkwood (The hardest thing in the world to understand is the income tax.)
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To: mirkwood
THAT'S the one I enclose with all the beg letters from the open borders bunch. That's all they deserve.

The Senators who vote for this monstrosity/amnesty will have a tough time getting re-elected. Maybe they can be "retrained", like Mr. Bush suggested for Americans who lose their jobs to cheap foreign labor.

13 posted on 03/07/2006 4:49:48 PM PST by janetgreen (Washington fiddles while America is invaded!)
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To: VU4G10

I guess the republicans have not alienated their base enough yet. They can take this gold card and everything that goes with it and insert it where the sun doesn't shine.

They don't deserve to win the race for house and senate seats in 2006. If they think this behavior will not cost them in the coming elections they are out of their minds.


14 posted on 03/07/2006 5:08:10 PM PST by Proud Conservative2 (As soon as you settle for less, you are stuck with less.)
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To: Proud Conservative2

"They don't deserve to win the race for house and senate seats in 2006. If they think this behavior will not cost them in the coming elections they are out of their minds."

Actually I believe the House repubs are running against Bush on immigration this fall. The Dems are too stupid, too alienated from their base. Should be an interesting election. Repub senators could lose a few on local/personal issues, Repub house could pick up seats if they identify themselves strongly against the Senate and Bush on this issue.


15 posted on 03/07/2006 5:17:51 PM PST by Shermy
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To: VU4G10

Tha tears it for me. I am now a man without a political party.


16 posted on 03/07/2006 5:21:57 PM PST by phelanw
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To: Reaganwuzthebest

There is no middle class, only middle income. Any middle ioncome person who is threatened by unskilled foreigners who do not speak English is overpaid.


17 posted on 03/07/2006 5:22:33 PM PST by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: ClaireSolt
There is no middle class, only middle income. Any middle ioncome person who is threatened by unskilled foreigners who do not speak English is overpaid.

Another eletist, blue-collar hater heard from. Are you in the Bush Administration?

18 posted on 03/08/2006 4:13:01 AM PST by raybbr
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To: AZRepublican

It doesn't, it speeds it up and guarantees our country is F$^%&^ed forever.

If this goes through and GWB signs it, allowing unlimited gold card terms, I hope his ranch is overrun by illegals and then condemed via eminent domain for blight.

This is only getting worse as more comes out.


19 posted on 03/08/2006 4:18:19 AM PST by chris1
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To: Travis McGee; Squantos
Get a load of this.

A 'Gold Card'.

Unbelievable.

L

20 posted on 03/08/2006 4:18:22 AM PST by Lurker (Cuz I got one hand in my pocket and the other one is slapping a hippy.)
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To: Lurker

Gold Card - it makes it sound like these people have won the lottery and are now considered to be a prviliged class of people.

I can't wait till the bots come by and try to scare me about Hillary and the RATS. The GOP is only barely better, save for some house members.

This Gold Card garbage erases the border since these people will be able to come and go as they please.


21 posted on 03/08/2006 4:25:30 AM PST by chris1
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To: chris1
They already do come and go as they please, and they do it with the complicity of the Bush administration and useful idiots like Arlen 'Scottish Law' Spectre.

L

22 posted on 03/08/2006 4:35:56 AM PST by Lurker (Cuz I got one hand in my pocket and the other one is slapping a hippy.)
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To: ClaireSolt
There is no middle class, only middle income. Any middle ioncome person who is threatened by unskilled foreigners who do not speak English is overpaid.

Illegal aliens are now finding themselves in practically every sector of the economy. And wherever they go wages depress along with them.

23 posted on 03/08/2006 4:56:09 AM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Reaganwuzthebest

Didn't you get the GOP talking points fax from Melhman this morning? This is a good thing.


24 posted on 03/08/2006 4:59:06 AM PST by chris1
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To: chris1

And not only that but if you oppose it you're xenophobic...


25 posted on 03/08/2006 5:03:05 AM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Reaganwuzthebest

Believe it or not, I actually don't mind that distinction.

I would hate even more to be called a globalist who calls the almight dollar my religion and will sell out my mother for ten cents and willing screw over my fellow Americans for greed. I would hate even more to be accused of screwing over my country at the behest of a foreign leader who runs a corrupt regime and whose last name is telling of his personality.


26 posted on 03/08/2006 5:08:20 AM PST by chris1
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To: chris1

We're being sold out, I just hope by 2008 we can elect the right people.


27 posted on 03/08/2006 5:18:53 AM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: raybbr
You mischarcterize me. That must be because you are a Marxist who wants to relegate people to inflexible classes and then politically exploit their subjugation. America is a classless society characterized by mobility. The main reason labor unions decline is that they have been so successful, according to a friend who is a lifelong Teamster. It blue collar were a class, his children would be teamsters, but they are affluent white-collar suburbanites.

I just came from a convenience store where I tried to tell the legal immigrant from Bengladesh that he needs to get the merchandise organized better. He complained that good help is hard to find. We have lots of immigrants both legal and illegal, but wages keep going up, and a statewide unemployment rate of 3.3% makes it hard to find people who can keep the Pepsi and Coke straight. Sometimes, arguments you make are a refuge of the indolent. Rather than bothering to be right, you attack me with name calling. Next, I suppose you will protest cartoons youdon't like.

28 posted on 03/08/2006 5:43:49 AM PST by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: VU4G10
President Bush, defying objections from conservatives

Permanent removeal of my name from Republican roles.

29 posted on 03/08/2006 6:30:19 AM PST by GingisK
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To: ClaireSolt
You mischarcterize (sic) me. That must be because you are a Marxist who wants to relegate people to inflexible classes and then politically exploit their subjugation. America is a classless society characterized by mobility.

Not really. Classes are merely a way to determine differences. You are thinking of castes. We don't have that here in the U.S.

The main reason labor unions decline is that they have been so successful, according to a friend who is a lifelong Teamster. It blue collar were a class, his children would be teamsters, but they are affluent white-collar suburbanites.

Again, you are referencing a caste system. (What were you a professor of?) We have a class system the divides people here in the U.S. Do you actually believe that people in the lower class of incomes can enjoy everything the upper class does?

I just came from a convenience store where I tried to tell the legal immigrant from Bengladesh (sic) that he needs to get the merchandise organized better.

I bet you spend most of your day telling others what they are doing wrong.

He complained that good help is hard to find.

Did you suggest that he offer more money? I doubt it.

We have lots of immigrants both legal and illegal, but wages keep going up, and a statewide unemployment rate of 3.3% makes it hard to find people who can keep the Pepsi and Coke straight.

Wages, according to the BLS, have actually dropped recently.

By the way. Did you ever think of straightening the bottle of Coke or Pepsi yourself? I do. I think of others. I bet you are one of those people that leave their shopping cart in the middle of the parking space next to your car forcing someone else to move it so they can park.

Sometimes, arguments you make are a refuge of the indolent. Rather than bothering to be right, you attack me with name calling.

I didn't call you a name. I was responding to your statement. Only someone who carries disdain for the working class could say something like you said.

Next, I suppose you will protest cartoons you don't like.

I don't read cartoons.

30 posted on 03/08/2006 6:32:09 AM PST by raybbr
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To: Lurker

Talk about "tone deaf."
Giving "gold cards" to criminal invaders is not only going to be a magnet for more illegal immigration, it's a wet green spit in the eye of every American.


31 posted on 03/08/2006 7:39:21 AM PST by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: raybbr
You are ignorant and abusive. Yet you want to project those characteristics on me.( Reminds me of Hillary discussing criticism that she is angry by projecting it on her audience.)

I see no knowledge in your posts, only prejudice and nastiness. Not much of a future in people work, like politics. Your distinction between class and caste is specious and missinformed. So, I know what is actually going on in my neighborhood, but you don't. You cite the BLS. By the way, I don't have to know, as I am retired. There is, by the way, no blue collar worker who's income is as low as social security.

32 posted on 03/08/2006 7:49:53 AM PST by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: ClaireSolt
You are ignorant and abusive. Yet you want to project those characteristics on me.( Reminds me of Hillary discussing criticism that she is angry by projecting it on her audience.)

LOL!!!!

33 posted on 03/08/2006 9:04:52 AM PST by raybbr
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To: VU4G10

I'm now to the point where I wish Spectre remained too incapacitated from chemotheraphy to keep his Senate seat.

Why Bush kept this guy around is a mystery.


34 posted on 03/08/2006 9:18:42 AM PST by citizen (Yo W! Read my lips: No Amnistia by any name! And the White House has a fence around it!)
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To: VU4G10

"Gold card" "Green card" -- Why do these alien cards reference money?

Answer: Because taxpayers pay the money for the aliens to be here.


35 posted on 03/08/2006 9:22:28 AM PST by citizen (Yo W! Read my lips: No Amnistia by any name! And the White House has a fence around it!)
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