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V: For Vendetta (Debbie Schlussel Updated Review Alert)
Debbie Schlussel.com ^ | 03/08/06 | Debbie Schlussel

Posted on 03/08/2006 7:18:00 AM PST by goldstategop

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To: Potowmack

I here Alan Moore has disowned it, and I have a bad feeling with have another League of Distinguished Gentlemen on our hand. Problem is, even though he works in a visual medium heavily inspired by cinematic methods, Moore's prose and plotting doesn't translate very well to the feature film format. A decent adaptation would have to be a TV miniseries, and a very long and expensive one at that.


21 posted on 03/08/2006 7:37:04 AM PST by RightWingAtheist (Creationism Is Not Conservative!)
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To: Potowmack

Have to disagree a little. I think Alan Moore is overated. Everyone gushes over The Watchmen and V for some reason. Granted they are good, but not the be-all end all of grfaphic novels. IMHO nothing will ever come close the Frank Miller's The Dark Knight Returns. That truly changed comics forver. Top of the heep if you ask me...

I'll see V when it comes out on DVD, but not in the theater.


22 posted on 03/08/2006 7:37:27 AM PST by strider44
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To: apackof2
Give the producers your money so they can more of this crap

The $9.50 I spend on a movie isn't likely to make much of a difference in the culture wars.

And I seriously doubt this movie is going to change anyone's opinion, whatever their political beliefs.

23 posted on 03/08/2006 7:37:39 AM PST by Potowmack ("Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government")
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To: goldstategop

I wonder if there are subliminal messages in it.


24 posted on 03/08/2006 7:37:52 AM PST by BIGLOOK (Order of Battle: Sink or capture as Prize, MS Media)
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To: goldstategop

If I remember correctly, this is done by the same guys who turned out The Matrix, and then butchered the two sequels with politics and nihilism.

I still the The Matrix was a fluke for them - or as some reports have it - was indeed plagiarized.


25 posted on 03/08/2006 7:38:01 AM PST by SlowBoat407 (The best stuff happens just before the thread snaps.)
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To: MplsSteve
I thought it was a good movie except that the more that I watch Keanu Reeves in any movie the more I think that he should play Al Gore in some biography movie. He is as wooden as the cigar store Indian himself.
26 posted on 03/08/2006 7:39:53 AM PST by frogjerk (LIBERALISM: The perpetual insulting of common sense.)
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To: mvpel

Amen, brother.


27 posted on 03/08/2006 7:40:15 AM PST by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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To: billbears
And what freedoms have been taken away from the Left, hmmm? On the contrary its the Left that has assaulted our values, made judges our masters and gone to great lengths to disarm us in the War On Terror. The notion their liberties are being threatened is laughable. We live in a world that's run by the ACLU instead of a Christian zealot like Chancellor Sutler. The Left has everything exactly backwards as usual.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

28 posted on 03/08/2006 7:40:41 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: SlowBoat407

Well, I've always been a fan of comic books. The whole "Osama Bin Laden being proud" portions of the review are a bit over the top.

But what do you expect from Portman and ultra-liberal Hollywood? I mean, should any of us really be surprised?


29 posted on 03/08/2006 7:42:29 AM PST by AmericanRepublican (There are fools on both sides. Only the true Americans will prevail.)
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To: mvpel
Was 1984 a left-wing screed too?

No, I don't think so. It was anti-totalitarianism.

The total-surveillance state that Orwell predicted is coming about only a couple of decades behind schedule in England. Guns and any other means of self-defense is banned, cars are tracked by satellite, and cameras blanket the streets.

True. The surveillance by the British state was one of the major themes of V for Vendetta. The irony is that the real-world surveillance in England these days has been brought about by a Center-Left parliamentary government, rather than a right-wing dictatorship

30 posted on 03/08/2006 7:43:16 AM PST by Potowmack ("Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government")
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To: billbears
It doesn't have a damn thing to do specifically with Bush

We are treated to newscasts about how "America's War [on terror] spread to England." One character--a gay, British Jay Leno type who hosts a latenight show--keeps a secret vault of prohibited items, including a giant poster of "the Coalition of the Willing," depicting the American and British flags surrounding a swastika. Think about our troops fighting and dying in Iraq, before you decide to give your dollars to this film. Do you really think they are Nazis?

You are correct, the movie has nothing to do with BUSH...-sarc

31 posted on 03/08/2006 7:44:08 AM PST by frogjerk (LIBERALISM: The perpetual insulting of common sense.)
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To: goldstategop

Dang, I wanted to see this but this may be too obvious for me to stomach.

Some have said the Matrix Trilogy is very similar in message, but if it was, I think it was very well disguised.


32 posted on 03/08/2006 7:45:43 AM PST by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestu s globus, inflammare animos)
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To: mvpel
Was 1984 a left-wing screed too?

1984, like Animal Farm, was a warning. Orwell was a committed Communist, until he realized just what the long term plans were.

With all the new security plans, I fear Orwell was mearly two decades behind.

33 posted on 03/08/2006 7:47:16 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: goldstategop
.....Islam and the Koran are treasured but prohibited, Christianity is pure evil.......

......and why would a nice Jewish girl like Portman lend her talents to this?

34 posted on 03/08/2006 7:47:27 AM PST by DoctorMichael (The Fourth-Estate is a Fifth-Column!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: billbears
BWHAHAHA!!! It didn't take long did it? I expect more 'conservatives' to come out against this Hollywood 'garbage' as the release date gets closer. It's all about Bush and Republicans, it has to be!!

Unfortunately the work this movie is based upon was released as a comic book in Great Britain in the early 1980s. The author even addresses the concerns, 20 years ago, of surveillance equipment (cameras) on the streets of London. And what do we have in some cities overseas today? And what do cities here in the US advocate? It doesn't have a damn thing to do specifically with Bush. What it does have to do with is an intrusive government that takes away the freedoms of the citizens in order to protect them.

Conservatives shouldn't have any problem with this movie. Republicans in their partisan beliefs may though


I think it's exactly about Bush and the way the Left perceives him. It's just the old trick of changing the time and the place of a story to try to be clever. Operas did it all the time--they made contemporary political points by using stories out of antiquity of mythology. That said, it may very well be a great movie. I hope so--we've had precious few lately.
35 posted on 03/08/2006 7:47:51 AM PST by Cyclopean Squid (History is a work in progress)
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To: frogjerk
Conservatives = Nazis. Yeah, real subtle. We all march in lockstep to take over the world.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

36 posted on 03/08/2006 7:48:36 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop
On the contrary its the Left that has assaulted our values

Yes, I feel assaulted every day. I can't tell you how often I'm stopped attending church every week, oh wait....

made judges our masters

Ummm, hate to break that one to you as well but Democrats and Republicans have nominated judges who have legislated from the bench. After reading some of the comments here, Republicans don't want a judge, they want someone to rule their way even if it means legislating from the bench

great lengths to disarm us in the War On Terror

I don't know about that. If you mean standing against the 'patriot' act, I applaud them and wish Republicans would have stood against it as well. BTW, you may really want to reread this graphic novel. I can see that act laying the groundwork for a world like this movie portrays if it were in the hands of the wrong people. Do you really want a camera on every corner? Is that what conservatism is now defined by? More government as long as we are in control?

We live in a world that's run by the ACLU instead of a Christian zealot like Chancellor Sutler. The Left has everything exactly backwards as usual.

Oh, so if we lived in a world that was run by a 'Christian' (supposed as no true Christian would act that way) zealot instead of the ACLU, that would be better?

37 posted on 03/08/2006 7:49:12 AM PST by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: billbears
Conservatives shouldn't have any problem with this movie. Republicans in their partisan beliefs may though.

*** DING DING DING *** No more calls; we have a winner!

38 posted on 03/08/2006 7:50:14 AM PST by steve-b (A desire not to butt into other people's business is eighty percent of all human wisdom)
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To: strider44
IMHO nothing will ever come close the Frank Miller's The Dark Knight Returns.

Pick up Marvel 1602 if you get a chance. A fantastic re-imagining of the Marvel Universe, starting in 1602.

39 posted on 03/08/2006 7:50:38 AM PST by Potowmack ("Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government")
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To: goldstategop

get a grip, switch to decaf or something. The irony of course, is that the historical Guy Fawke is one of history's Christian (well, Catholic) terrorist who acted out of perceived religious perscution against his lot.


40 posted on 03/08/2006 7:51:39 AM PST by Republican Party Reptile
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