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Illegal immigration gains allies
Contra Costa Times ^ | 3/9/6 | Nathaniel Hoffman

Posted on 03/09/2006 8:01:12 AM PST by SmithL

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To: Clemenza

"BTW: Did it ever occur to you that the reason major metros are overcrowded is because people want to live there? I don't see too many people fleeing to the "open space" of South Dakota, western Oklahoma, Kansas, eastern Montana, Wyoming, etc?"

Immigration is filling those areas, the natives are moving out. California continues to gain in population but the growth is not from the other states, but from foreign countries, California is losing about 240,000 of its native population to less crowded states every year.


41 posted on 03/09/2006 9:35:16 AM PST by ansel12
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To: Little Ray

Just wait a few years, and the sprawl from Atlanta reaches your 40 acres and a mule.


42 posted on 03/09/2006 9:36:14 AM PST by Clemenza (Dick Cheney is a big middle finger to the "other directed" Sheeple. My kind of guy!)
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To: ansel12
Yes, but they move to places like Phoenix, Denver, Seattle, etc, that are also overcrowded. They don't move to "the big empty" do they?

I guess all of those poor illegals are paying for those tiny million dollar homes in the Bay Area and along the coast.

43 posted on 03/09/2006 9:37:54 AM PST by Clemenza (Dick Cheney is a big middle finger to the "other directed" Sheeple. My kind of guy!)
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To: SmithL
I know, let's just have California straight up declare bankruptcy. Heck, some of it's cities (mine) may have to!

Maybe that will get people to look at the issue, that our health care and welfare state has driven this beautiful land into the ground. Not to mention all the rampant crime and gang wars. What about the American and Californian Citizens!
44 posted on 03/09/2006 9:37:59 AM PST by Jhohanna (Born Free)
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To: Individual Rights in NJ
I can't wait until the first of those women going to the "friendly day center to pick out which hunk she wants to help her with her stupid chores and craft/"landscaping" services" goes there and gets kidnapped and raped. I hope it is a really really white washed church lady.

It happens more than you think. Many of the child murder cases and abuse cases have been by those same said illegals that they let into their homes. But you don't see *that* on the nightly news. Just the girl who was of age of consent that got caught in a bad place at a bad time. Not a child later kidnapped, raped and murdered and left in the forest - Samantha Runion.
45 posted on 03/09/2006 9:40:38 AM PST by Jhohanna (Born Free)
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To: Clemenza
Dunno 'bout that. I'm a long way out, between Cumming and Gainesville ("Cummingville"). If it does, however, I have a lake view - my property value should go up. I'll sell and move further out.

Assuming my home and land aren't condemned and given to a developer...
46 posted on 03/09/2006 9:40:38 AM PST by Little Ray (I'm a reactionary, hirsute, gun-owning, knuckle dragging, Christian Neanderthal and proud of it!)
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To: Individual Rights in NJ
PS: Not all Californian's are as you say. Unfortunately, our votes don't count for squat. I've actually lived here 1/2 of my life now (GAH), from 4-12 in SF and now, 8 years in San Diego. And I've never ever EVER supported what the state government supported. But I do know that in the 70s and 80s, San Francisco was NOTHING like the freak show that it is today.

I voted for Arnold because I thought he would kick some @ss. And he hasn't. He's just been shoved right on over. I couldn't believe it when all of our measures passed. You have to remember that our state is as Union-run as any on the East coast. Only problem is.... most of them are Mexican dominated now.

All that being said, I can't wait to get the Heck out of this state. If only there were suitable jobs in the parts of the country I can live in (I have bad health issues). Colorado has been overrun by the Dims as well, SAME EXACT PROBLEMS.

Our country is fast falling apart in front of our eyes.
47 posted on 03/09/2006 9:44:48 AM PST by Jhohanna (Born Free)
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To: Anti-Bubba182; SmithL

<< "Nearly half of Californians now say unauthorized immigrants ..."

Nearly half of Californians are unauthorized immigrants. >>

Nope.

None of the folks we are discussing are "immigrants."

They are "illegal" [I prefer Criminal] MIGRANTS.

We more recent immigrants, like generations who came ahead of us, have respected America's Laws and Sovereign Borders and have, many of us, waited in line for up to a decade. We have obeyed every directive and instruction given us by the frequently mean-spirited and to a man otherwise deservedly unemployed and moronic INS dullards and we have with our hearts furiously beating with pride forsaken all other allegiences and become hyphenated Americans.

AMERICAN-Americans!

And, again almost to a man, while having difficulty disliking a single individual criminal migrant, want our government to get the Hell off its arse and secure and protect our borders against these invaders. And to secure and protect our language, our culture and our nation. And the very Judeo-Christian/Western/Human Civilization we vanguard.


48 posted on 03/09/2006 10:03:35 AM PST by Brian Allen (How arrogant are we to believe our career political-power-lusting lumpen somehow superior to theirs?)
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To: HiJinx
Protect our borders and coastlines from all foreign invaders!

Support our Minutemen Patriots!

Be Ever Vigilant!


49 posted on 03/09/2006 11:29:07 AM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: Little Ray; son of caesar
Actually I was thinking of an indolent population ("bread and circuses") and Roman patricians supporting barbarian migrations 'cause they worked cheap.

And cheapening citizenship, and turning to a mercenary army rather than Romans being personally invested in the military, helped.

How 'bout them recruitment bonuses?

50 posted on 03/09/2006 11:32:37 AM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick

Be Ever Vigilant!


51 posted on 03/09/2006 11:34:26 AM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: Little Ray
I think this is closer to the barbarian migrations that destoryed Rome.

Exactly. And you can got back/forward in time to replicate the same exact results. NO country/culture/society has ever been able to resist the effects of migration.

As it stands in the US, this is just the latest manifestation of an ageless process. The way both Rs & Ds are pandering to the new migrants is no different in how power-brokers in ancient Egypt must have utilized the various factions arriving from around the known world.

The key is not in trying to contain the flow, but adapting and expanding our own culture to new territory. Who said the US should stop expanding at 50 states? Just imagine for a moment what Mexico would be like under US jurisdiction, including our legal, business and financing systems.

Hint: real estate would explode.

52 posted on 03/09/2006 11:36:50 AM PST by lemura
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To: SmithL

Yeah, I heard about this poll. They only sampled 500 people. If I remember, half were registered voters and the other half non-registered. The registered voters were something like 67% against illegals.

This poll is just another tool to be used by the MSM.


53 posted on 03/09/2006 11:59:03 AM PST by CATravelAgent (Always remember that you're unique. Just like everyone else.)
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To: HiJinx

Which is it? "Know your enemy" or " Anoy your enemy"

Both sounds good to me.


54 posted on 03/09/2006 12:03:24 PM PST by texastoo ("trash the treaties")
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To: Individual Rights in NJ

HEAR, HEAR!!


55 posted on 03/09/2006 12:04:31 PM PST by JoeBob (If you live like sheep the wolves will eat you.)
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To: SmithL

What these people don't seem to understand is that Illegal Immigration is not JUST a jobs issue anymore.

It's a National Security issue and I"m sorry as hell that our Neighbors to the south have to take it on the chin, but that's the way it is.


56 posted on 03/09/2006 12:06:42 PM PST by Leatherneck_MT (An honest man can feel no pleasure in the exercise of power over his fellow citizens.)
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To: NewRomeTacitus

It's conquest. That's why NOT learning English is a matter of importance to them. To conquer, they must first force the nation to become bilingual. So far, they are succeeding.


57 posted on 03/09/2006 12:15:30 PM PST by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: CATravelAgent

Those facts are irrelevant to the agenda behind the story.


58 posted on 03/09/2006 12:17:30 PM PST by SmithL (Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.)
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To: Leatherneck_MT
It is more than *National Security*, it is a cultural issue. The balkanization of America by non-assimillating foreigners, the loss of english as the one language of the country, and the eventual loss of control of our government to a majority of non-english speaking illegal aliens that have been granted amnesty and given the vote. The destruction of our common culture will be the destruction of our country. May God help our descendants for they will curse us for our lack of forethought, character and judgement and we won't be here to apologize to them.
59 posted on 03/09/2006 12:20:35 PM PST by JoeBob (If you live like sheep the wolves will eat you.)
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To: texastoo

It was supposed to be 'know', but I think annoy works well, too!


60 posted on 03/09/2006 12:30:57 PM PST by HiJinx (~ www.proudpatriots.org ~ Serving Those Who Serve Us ~ Operation Easter/Passover ~)
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