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Tug-of-War over a Sexual Divide
Illinois Family Institute ^
| March 09, 2006
| Rhonda Robinson
Posted on 03/09/2006 10:08:23 AM PST by SweetCaroline
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"Sexuality education" in Illinois for children beginning at age 5...
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posted on
03/09/2006 9:24:01 PM PST
by
Tired of Taxes
(That's taxes, not Texas. I have no beef with TX. NJ has the highest property taxes in the nation.)
To: SweetCaroline
What is "age appropriate" sex education for 5-yr-old children? Answer: "Boys/girls have cooties."
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posted on
03/09/2006 9:35:54 PM PST
by
metmom
(Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
To: Tired of Taxes
I really believe most parents today agree with the agenda. ....I think you may be right. Even some on FR also.
There have been almost 500 hits on this thread and only 21 Freepers posted their thoughts.
It's going to be a very confusing world the youngest generation will have to face.
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posted on
03/09/2006 10:02:20 PM PST
by
SweetCaroline
(It's because I love you that I make your life so miserable....)
To: SweetCaroline
Tug-of-War over a Sexual Divide Sounds like it ought to be the subtitle of the "Girls Gone Wild Games" video I keep seeing advertised on late-night TV (EVERY FREAKING SIX MINUTES...)
To: SweetCaroline
A child being sexually abused will come to school and be told about how all the touching and intercourse is good and natural--and should be done in private. Underscoring the lies her abuser is telling her.Excellent point. It's that brain smoking liberal *logic* again. Telling the kids this is good and bad at the same time. Why tell them it's OK and the expel and brand as a child abuser a 6 year old boy who kisses a little girl? After all, he was just told it's OK. And putting the guilt of abuse on a little girl should be a crime. Sheesh.
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posted on
03/09/2006 10:10:45 PM PST
by
metmom
(Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
To: metmom
Why tell them it's OK and the expel and brand as a child abuser a 6 year old boy who kisses a little girl?....further proof these liberals are idiots!
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posted on
03/09/2006 10:38:58 PM PST
by
SweetCaroline
(It's because I love you that I make your life so miserable....)
To: DirtyHarryY2K
Very informative, and frightening article. Everyone should read it and beware, lest people believe "only in MA".
Maybe parents need to start suing when their kids drop out or are traumatized due to all this crap. In the more foreseeable future, I would love to see parents and students, "opt out" of a day or two of school, in an organized fashion, to show administration an example of how many students they will lose if they continue with this garbage. I speak of course, of the students who have not already been pulled out of public "schrool."
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posted on
03/10/2006 7:14:20 AM PST
by
gidget7
(Get GLDSEN out of our schools!!)
To: Tired of Taxes
This type of sex-education program has been running in the schools in my state for years, and, sadly, most of the other parents don't care. One even told me she thought it was a good idea. Just as I was about to post there's no way SB 2267 will pass, I read your comment. I'm still reeling & sick at my stomach.
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posted on
03/10/2006 8:06:41 AM PST
by
demkicker
(democrats and terrorists are familiar bedfellows)
To: demkicker
Just as I was about to post there's no way SB 2267 will pass, I read your comment. I'm still reeling & sick at my stomach. .....I belive many are as unaware as you were.
Some don't take the time to know what's going on and while I hate to believe others don't care, I fear it's true.
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posted on
03/10/2006 8:10:34 AM PST
by
SweetCaroline
(It's because I love you that I make your life so miserable....)
To: demkicker
Don't let my post worry you too much. Every state is different, and the state I was talking about is New Jersey. And, for all I know, the sex-ed program here may not go as far as the one proposed in IL, which might explain why the parents here shrug it off. I don't know what the teachers actually say to the kids in the classroom because I'm not there, and neither are my kids! No way am I putting them in there!
The people in IL might not shrug off this bill.
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posted on
03/10/2006 8:53:41 AM PST
by
Tired of Taxes
(That's taxes, not Texas. I have no beef with TX. NJ has the highest property taxes in the nation.)
To: SweetCaroline
I don't yet have grandchildren, but one thing is certain. They'll never attend public school.
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posted on
03/10/2006 9:55:51 AM PST
by
demkicker
(democrats and terrorists are familiar bedfellows)
To: Tired of Taxes
The people in IL might not shrug off this bill. I'm sure the IL leg is majority democrat, right? I'll be interested to know how the vote goes on this bill.
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posted on
03/10/2006 9:57:23 AM PST
by
demkicker
(democrats and terrorists are familiar bedfellows)
To: SweetCaroline
Age appropriate sex education for a five year old?
(as appropriate)
1a) "That's a girl. Don't hit her".
1b) "That's a boy. Don't torment him".
2) "If anybody touches you, I'll kill him".
Here's a cookie, now get outside and play.
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posted on
03/10/2006 10:06:06 AM PST
by
Jack of all Trades
(Liberalism: replacing backbones with wishbones.)
To: demkicker
From what I've read here on FR, Illinois is very Democrat!
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posted on
03/10/2006 10:16:27 AM PST
by
SweetCaroline
(Homosexuals intention is to serve none but themselves. THE PINK SWASTIKA)
To: swain_forkbeard
Please. Did God fail to give this "gift" to the children in cultures where full or partial nudity prevails?Shyness and modesty are learned behaviors for adaptation to a cultural norm.
You make no argument in support or in opposition to God's "gift" in this regard. You simply argue that children in such cultures are conditioned to accept full or partial nudity as the norm.
If you suggest that children running around our society nude is okay then you are incorrect...
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posted on
03/10/2006 12:11:35 PM PST
by
DBeers
(†)
To: DBeers
"If you suggest that children running around our society nude is okay then you are incorrect..."
In fact he said the opposite. The point was that we are conditioned by society to either be clothed or be nude, and that shyness is not "natural," so as to say, innate or immutable.
Not sure whether I agree, but it seems possible.
To: SweetCaroline
What is "age appropriate" at age 5, you ask?No one is ever, ever allowed to touch you in anyway that makes you uncomfortable.
No more, no less.
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posted on
03/10/2006 12:40:28 PM PST
by
ShadowDancer
(No autopsy, no foul.)
To: DBeers
"You simply argue that children in such cultures are conditioned to accept full or partial nudity as the norm."
Actually, you have it backwards. What I asserted is that children are conditioned to be modest. One might infer that I would also assert that in other cultures children are conditioned not to be modest. And that inference would be correct.
In case you disagree with my main point - that modesty and clothing customs are learned behaviors that vary by culture - and instead believe that the need to be covered is a universal human trait and mandated by God, review my original post and answer the question.
I really don't think God cares if we run around nekkid. We care.
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posted on
03/10/2006 12:47:41 PM PST
by
swain_forkbeard
(Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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