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The Mob And The Ports Deal
GOP USA ^ | 3-9-06 | Linda Chavez

Posted on 03/09/2006 11:22:41 AM PST by smoothsailing

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To: nopardons

Yet I can still discern that even the mob tends to have patriotic ties to the ol US of A, slide a container or two off onto an ill-tracked truck laden with consumables and easily marketable wares generally with an incentive for materialism,..., whereas our Arab brethren might more easily pass a dirty bomb or two through the terminal with an incentive to praise Allah while slaughtering infidels.

I find the former the lessor of two evils.


61 posted on 03/10/2006 7:32:50 PM PST by Cvengr
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To: smoothsailing

up


62 posted on 03/10/2006 7:37:25 PM PST by prognostigaator
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To: smoothsailing

oh, that's just the Sopranos. Better the terrorists we know and love, especially Catholic terrotists, they're OK.


63 posted on 03/10/2006 7:42:48 PM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. Slay Pinch)
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Here
64 posted on 03/10/2006 7:55:47 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing
We can't win a trade war, we don't have any ships. In 65 years I have never seen anything so ignorant and unconsidered. Must be the public and private schools.
65 posted on 03/10/2006 8:03:14 PM PST by jec41 (Screaming Eagle)
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We can't win a trade war, we don't have any ships.

We can't is not an option.

66 posted on 03/10/2006 8:11:50 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
Blackmail a "made man" and you get whacked.

ON THE WATERFRONT is fiction. Yes, it's an OLD movie, but it's "tame", compared to what the truth is. Go watch the movie.

67 posted on 03/10/2006 8:13:19 PM PST by nopardons
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To: smoothsailing

Can't stop countries from trading elsewhere. It won't bephysical just a slowing in trade.


68 posted on 03/10/2006 8:16:28 PM PST by jec41 (Screaming Eagle)
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LOL...I read it and now I've replied to it.

A lot of people only imagine that they know things about topics, because they've read FICTIONAL books about the topic and/or seen movies and T.V. shows. OTOH, people who have read newspaper articles, NONFICTION books, and possibly known about various topics and people IN REAL LIFE, know just how silly many statements made on FR really are. :-)

69 posted on 03/10/2006 8:17:02 PM PST by nopardons
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People with jerk the knee syndrome NEVER see the big picture. Heck, they don't even see the little picture.

Did you see Brit Hume's show earlier? He had an EXPERT on, who really went into the whole P&O sale to BPW and what it REALLY meant and WHY it was GREAT for America, vis-a-vis FOREIGN PORTS such as Singapore and the Netherlands, etc.! Funnily enough, the security there, how ships OWNED BY THEM, and the fact that THEY would have paid the costs for modernization ( this is where the Longshoremen were having apoplexy, but which would have be terrific for US, comes in! ), and a lot of other things, which have NOT been brought up much, if at all, was a real eye opener.

The show is repeated at midnight EST, and I suggest that you see it.

70 posted on 03/10/2006 8:24:05 PM PST by nopardons
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Nope, you are utterly incapable of "discerning" much at all.

Let's look at history, for examples which you either don't know anything about, or choose to ignore. Ever hear of Mussolini? Are you at all aware of who we, THE ALLIES, fought in WW II? Many "mad men" LOVED him and America be damned. Oh yeah, "patriotism" came into play; just for the wrong country.

Some longshoremen ARE patriots; some aren't.

The "dirty bomb"/ nuke fear, is that of a small child and bogeymen under the bed. It would be far easier to sneak a "dirty bomb into this country, across the Canadian border, than in a cargo ship!

71 posted on 03/10/2006 8:31:08 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons
Most operate on opinion and cannot recognize a fact.
72 posted on 03/10/2006 8:33:15 PM PST by jec41 (Screaming Eagle)
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It's not so much that they cannot recognize fact, as it is they REFUSE to accept any FACTS, because if they did so, then they would have been wrong all along.


73 posted on 03/10/2006 8:36:55 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons

That too.


74 posted on 03/10/2006 8:40:31 PM PST by jec41 (Screaming Eagle)
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To: smoothsailing
What the article suggests to me is the hollowness of "selective indignation" exhibited by those who opposed the DPW deal.

There's likely some of that on the pro-xfer side too. Count me as one who had an adverse sensation about COSCO, but not about this deal. Not sure I'd go so far as the label "hollow" in either direction, but I think there is some amount of at least superficial inconsistency that ought to be acknowledged.

75 posted on 03/10/2006 8:45:52 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: jec41

Yes; sadly.


76 posted on 03/10/2006 8:52:24 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Cboldt
I'll stick with hollow, but I respect your point.They both lead to the same result.
77 posted on 03/10/2006 9:08:50 PM PST by smoothsailing
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I'll stick with hollow, but I respect your point.

Have you looked at the reaction here to COSCO's efforts to gain a hold in Long Beach? Some of that predated President Bush's election, but a good deal of it was after, and even well into 2003.

The expressed sentiment was strongly biased AGAINST that effort to gain a toe hold. Limbaugh justified a stance against by virtue of a shipment of automatic weapons, intercepted.

Anyway, I'm at peace with my personal atitude becuase I know the difference in my level of detail knowledge and level of commitment to the outcome between the two instances.

My only "ultimate" point is that (as usual) the discussion on FR is heavy on the mud side, and light on the informative side.

78 posted on 03/10/2006 9:19:03 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt
Sounds to me like we agree,we just choose different words.Take Care.
79 posted on 03/10/2006 9:29:30 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: nopardons
Blackmail a "made man" and you get whacked.

Which is why al-Qaeda would use an expendable asset who is searching for 72 virgins.

80 posted on 03/11/2006 1:03:08 PM PST by BeHoldAPaleHorse (Tagline deleted at request of moderator.)
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