Yep. You have seen that here.
True, but those are not conservatives, and if anyone tells you different, they're liars
According to them, their opinion(s) are the only "principled" ones to hold.
This is a ch__ch. What's missing?
Posted on 03/09/2006 1:37:47 PM PST by .cnI redruM
When Markos Moulitsas Zuniga, the proprietor of Daily Kos, recently told The Washington Monthly's Benjamin Wallace-Wells, "I'm not ideological at all. ... I'm just all about winning," he could have been speaking for the entire left-wing blogosphere. If there's one animating idea that's shared by liberal bloggers like Kos and Atrios and all the others, it's, as Wallace-Wells called it, "the ideology of winnerism."
Which is why it's bizarre that these very same bloggers are always so eager to celebrate moral victories. After Howard Dean went down to defeat, they boasted about how they took a virtual nobody to the precipice of victory. Ditto for Paul Hackett. And the same thing is happening today now that Ciro Rodriguez--the former Texas congressman who became a blog darling after his Democratic primary opponent, incumbent Congressman Henry Cuellar, was shown hugging President Bush at the State of the Union--has apparently lost.
To take just one example, here's Jane Hamsher at Firedoglake:
We sent a very loud, long message to the Democratic party about what we're willing to fight for. It's extremely difficult to defeat an incumbent and we took a race that wasn't even close in January and made it competitive. That's huge.
But electoral politics in the United States is a zero-sum game and, at some point, these bloggers are going to have to make enough of a difference to actually win a race--something they've so far failed to do. (As Wallace-Wells pointed out, not one of the 13 Congressional candidates Kos endorsed in 2004--and raised $500,000 for--won). Yes, as Kos argues in his Rodriguez postmortem:
We're a nascent movement a scant two years old. The Right built theirs over 30 years. We won't take over the world in two.
But more often than not, these liberal bloggers (especially Kos) act like they already have taken over the world--writing manifestoes, issuing threats, and engaging in all sorts of chest-thumping behavior. But, like I said, their batting average is still a big fat zero.
P.S. And before someone points out that TNR's batting average hasn't been so great lately, either (cough, cough, Lieberman, cough), let me just say that, well, I think that endorsement--which was hotly debated inside the magazine--was made with the full knowledge that there was no way Lieberman was going to win the primary. In other words, the endorsement was basically a statement of principle, and that principle was almost the opposite of the ideology of winnerism.
It ain't just the GOP that's got a crack-up problem.
Well isn't that a shame, all that work for NOTHING!..LOL
Liberals act as if they haven't been in power for the past 50 years.
The only difference between today and 26 years ago, when the liberals really began to lose their grip is the Freedom of Information.
No, not the Act. The Fact.
Freedom of information via the Internet means that control of the MSM, which the liberals cultivated and still control to a large degree does not carry as much weight with the voters.
As for bloggers, the liberal bloggers have existed for as long as conservative bloggers. The difference is that conservative bloggers are not competing against a conservative mainstream media for readers, just as the radio sphere conservative talk show hosts aren't competing with conservative network news. Conservatives do well on the blogosphere and radiosphere precisely because it is the only outlet for their information and thus they have a fairly captive repeat readership and audience. Liberal bloggers and talk show hosts can't draw in large numbers except for the Far Left whackos who think the liberal MSM is too conservative. The rest of their potential audience just watches CNN and gets as much bang for their buck with less effort.
In fact, the wacko, leftist blogosphere, coupled with the crazies on Air America have probably brought more negative attention to moderates who used to vote Democrat/Liberal because they only knew what the MSM told them. Now that the Far Left has a venue for exposing their idiocy, the moderates have shifted to the center, and the Right has turned out to vote.
Somehow, I don't think that was their intent.
Or "BuSHIT".
Wait a minute, I've also seen the President called "BuSHIT" and "the chimp" on FR.
Children/liberals usually resort to name calling when they lose.
Apparently it's infectious.
We won't take over the world in two.
You won't take over the world in twenty or two hundred either. Your ideas are not only unpopular, but failed for everyone to see. The sad part is you're in your death throes and you think it's the spasm of birth.
Owl_Eagle(If what I just wrote makes you sad or angry,
"Moral Victory" another way of saying "I lost".
They're the ones who claim to be "true conservatives" and that everyone else (or around 90% of FR) are really liberals.
"After the behavior of the "conservative" blogosphere in this Dubai terminal debate I can't make fun of the self-destructive childishness of the liberal blogosphere anymore."
Yep, pot/kettle.
We can sum up the Angry Left in one sentence:
Full of sound and fury, signifying nothing
good analysis.
in fact, with your leave, I'd like to add it (with full citation) to my biobage.
They don't fool me and I have yet to see them change a single mind.
Take it, borrow it, and improve it... :-)
thanks!
Markos Moulitsas Zuniga has some mighty beer muscles.
However, I am hopeful he will continue to irritate the sh*t out of the DNC.
"biobage" = genetically engineered cabbage?
I mean, of course! Mousefart made Brian Lamb sit on what appeared to be a $10 folding chair for the big CSPAN interview. How declasse, even for a DUmbass like PoS. The DNC is surely plotting how to derail this guy in favor of 'approved' lead bloggers.
PoS is the true embodiment of DUmmie magical thinking and the inevitable outcome of such delusionary, exhibitionist, histrionic, debased behavior -- loss after loss after loss after loss after loss after loss after loss after loss after loss after loss after loss after loss...
By established Freepers or newly registered trolls? I can't say that I've ever seen either of those terms used on FR. Then again, I usually catch the flamebait threads after the zot.
it is now added. thanks again!
I have seen many, mostly newer posters but some sleeper trolls
From Washington Times Inside politics:
Moving on
MoveOn.org is moving on after another humiliating defeat.
MoveOn, formed in 1998 in a failed attempt to prevent President Clinton's impeachment, kept its winless streak alive Tuesday when former Rep. Ciro Rodriguez went down to defeat against "right-wing Democrat" Rep. Henry Cuellar of Texas in the party primary.
MoveOn had endorsed Mr. Rodriguez as "a true Democrat" who "would stand up to the Bush administration in Washington."
MoveOn's past efforts include campaigning for Al Gore and John Kerry for president, as well as stumping for Democratic majorities in Congress in the 2000, 2002 and 2004 elections.
The left-wing group announced yesterday that it is starting an advertising campaign to take back Congress by saturating TV for three months in five Republican House districts.
Meanwhile, the conservative Club for Growth was crowing yesterday because Mr. Cuellar was the first Democrat it had ever endorsed
http://www.washtimes.com/national/inpolitics.htm
I suppose he means "Promise the sheeple (voters) more Free Stuff . . . just like libs have always done."
I got news; with the exception of shrinking majorities on the bloated tax sponge East and Left coasts, most of the voters have caught on to that one.
Apples and oranges.
The big difference is that "the right" had a message before it had a movement. The message was: smaller government, lower taxes, strengthen the military, protect traditional American values and the traditional family unit. And "the right" relentlessly shouted its message to the rooftops, loud and clear - - there was never anything fuzzy about the message, and everybody knew what "the right" stood for.
On the other hand, can anybody similarly state what the left's message is?
(I'll count to 50 while you compose that message in your mind.....)
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Time's up. You couldn't do it.
And that's because "the left" has no message!
"We hate Bush" simply doesn't cut it. Nor does: bigger government, higher taxes, emasculate the military, redefine "family" to mean, oh, anything, get children into the government education system as early as possible, discard all notions of moral clarity, remove any practice of Christianity from public view, and generally just piss all over tradition.
In short, the agenda of "the left" is to pack the courts with liberal Democrat activists and then use those courts to "enact" the left's agenda of transforming America into a Euro-style, secular-socialist welfare-state. (Only then can America be as great as France, you see.)
Of course, none of this is a message that "the left" wants to shout to the rooftops. In fact, "the left" continues to have no alternative but to continue to lie about what it stands for. This is not the stuff of a successful "movement" other than the kind of "movement" that stinks up the bathroom.
And they can't even do that. It's GOTTA suck to be them...
Out loud, in public, and even in the Oral Office.
Yep. You have seen that here.
True, but those are not conservatives, and if anyone tells you different, they're liars
According to them, their opinion(s) are the only "principled" ones to hold.
This is a ch__ch. What's missing?
The Left does have an agenda that they are very clear about. They want health insurance for every American; living wage for every worker; tolerance for every person; remedies for past injustices; an end to the evil corporations preying on the "little guy".
Big government (and higher taxes), Trotskyite socialism, and mindless platitudes.
The stuff you mentioned makes for the kind of silly, meaningless soundbites that already attract the parasites, bitter malcontents, permanent race "victims", government addicts, and unambitious losers who make up the Democrat "base", but it will never be enough to fuel any kind of "movement" for the left.
Yes, it's all soundbites, but if you don't think soundbites matter, I refer you to the port mess. That was all soundbite.
Very good point.
Everyone can't be pleased, I guess. I just wish that those conservatives who do disagree with President Bush (and I suppose we all have from time to time) would do so in a more polite manner. Principled disagreement is one thing, eating your own is another entirely. Adopting DU manners, or lack thereof, wins no converts.
Exactly
I don't agree with Hannity much anymore but he is right in saying that "FReepers tend to eat their own".
"Yes, it's all soundbites, but if you don't think soundbites matter, I refer you to the port mess. That was all soundbite.
Very good point."
Rush would call those soundbites, "Drive-By Media". They pull up with the top down, spray the general public with hysteria and then are on down the road, stirring up something else leaving the mess they made to be cleaned up by grownups.
Dubai Port and Katrina are very good examples. This is the chaos theory someone referred to on another thread. Unfortunately, it seems to work. Logic, common sense, facts out the window - emotion and hysteria rule the day.
Ain't that the truth. One of the most apt descritions of those folks I've seen lately was "Donner Party" conservatives. I had to chuckle and wince at the same time.
I really don't understand why people will so easily get caught up in mass hysteria. But it's worked in many societies and in many eras. I had hoped that in the Internet era, availability of facts would make that kind of mass hysteria less common, but I was wrong. Sadly wrong. :-(
Most of them are the old Pat Buchanan crowd who have hated the GOP since 1996 and President Bush since 2000. This is why illegal immigration won't be an issue for them starting on January 20, 2009.
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