She wasn't warned strongly enough, apparently.
Posted on 03/10/2006 4:09:37 AM PST by beaversmom
HOURS after boarding the luxury cruise that would result in her death, Dianne Brimble's friend warned her of a group of men who had been ogling female passengers, a Sydney inquest was told today. The next morning, Ms Brimble, 42, was found dead in a cabin belonging to some of those same men.
Police allege she had been given a lethal dose of the date rape drug gamma-hydroxybutyrate before being sexually assaulted.
The inquest was told Ms Brimble had been ecstatic, setting out on the "holiday of a lifetime" with family and friends on the P&O liner Pacific Sky on September 23, 2002.
That night, she met a group of eight men at a disco on the ship.
Close friend Nancy Chard today told Glebe Coroners Court she warned Ms Brimble not long after boarding the ship to stay away from the men.
"They were just basically watching every female so I just said to Di be very careful," Ms Chard said.
"They were odd, to my eyes they were really odd-looking people.
"There's a difference between just looking at a woman and undressing them by looking."
Ms Chard said she heard some of the men, who were staying in a cabin directly opposite hers, involved in an argument earlier that night with a group of girls.
She told the court the girls later informed her the men had asked them to expose their genitalia and had propositioned them.
The men were obviously drunk and had been making noise until the early hours of the morning, she said.
The day Ms Brimble's body was found, Ms Chard said she saw one of the eight men crying in the hallway, and in the following days, she said the men gave Ms Brimble's friends "filthy looks".
"They would give us a look as if to say, they have no shame," she said.
"It was almost like it was just playing, they had no remorse."
Ms Brimble's older sister Alma Wood, who also was on the cruise, tearfully told the court her sister had been a "prude" who would not have wilfully taken drugs or engaged in promiscuous sex.
"That sort of stuff was always gross to her," Ms Wood said.
The inquest before Deputy State Coroner Jacqueline Milledge continues next week.
Freeper women who go on cruises need to be very careful. We hear more and more of this kind of thing daily. Now about liberal women, who really cares? Any lib female would go cheerfully with eight men to a sexual party, heck, thats liberalism to the core.
Girls Gone Wild! It's the man's fault, always!
(sarc)
She wasn't warned strongly enough, apparently.
I really don't get a lot of these cruise stories... they're pretty sad. I've been on a couple of cruises and never saw the behavior like has been described in many of these horror stories... maybe because my husband and I only have eyes for each other????
Possible moral of the story - don't cruise without a partner???? Still, guess it doesn't apply here.. with family and friends and still pulled a Natalie Holloway...
Weird world we live in now.
I see someone in MY gym acting like that........in any way untoward..........I call 'em on it.
They listen, too.
Cruises are getting cheaper and cheaper. Heck, I even read recently that Wal-Mart is going to be selling cruise packages. You get a different class of people the cheaper they get.
Your so right. That's why they ought ot hang with me.
They can trust me.
I'm not like the others.
That is typical conservative thinking, right? /s
Is your point meant to bash WalMart shoppers, or Cruising? You need to be more specific when making such "broad brushstroke" statements, so we can figure out what kinnd of bigot you are....
For many college students, spring break is a time for letting loose — but it is also a time when they are most likely to drink heavily and engage in other deviant behaviors.
Young women are especially at risk. A recent study by the American Medical Association surveyed 644 undergraduate and graduate women across the country concerning their drinking habits during spring break. The AMA reported 83 percent of the women surveyed said they drank more heavily during spring break than they normally drink and 74 percent said their sexual activity increases.
“One of the most important things students need to remember is that criminals and predators go on spring break too,” said Keith Sims, executive director of Safe Campuses Now.
Sims said because drinking alcohol reduces reaction time as well as reducing awareness of one’s surroundings, women and men are more likely to become victims.
Alcohol affects women at a faster rate than men, the AMA reported.
“Scientific evidence shows women process alcohol differently, putting them at greater risks for heart problems, reproductive disorders and liver disease,” said Dr. J. Edward Hill, president of the AMA, in a press release. “These survey results are extremely disturbing because it brings up an entirely new set of issues including increased risk of sexually transmitted diseases, blackouts and violence.”..
Thats why I only drink with my husband.... and lightly at that...
;D
Keep trying. I already have you figured out.
OMG,please,please,please don't let cruises go the way of air travel!
Heh.
"Any lib female would go cheerfully with eight men to a sexual party, heck, thats liberalism to the core."
Tis' a mighty broad brush with which you paint.........
I thought this was going to be a thread about Tom Cruise.
Are you really that big of a dick, or is it just an affectation?
Thank goodness for that.
(Only way a homely guy like me is married with two kids and a third on the way.)
The $97.98 cruise is just around the corner!
Excellent. Another post demonstrating the worst of freeperdom.
When do we get our peanuts?
If it's you, me, Eaker, Squantos, and Humblegunner going up the Atachafalaya on a Siwft Boat with a couple of Ma Duces... count me in!
What a weird story. No background on the men, no descriptions of the men or even if they had been detained!
Worse, it takes eight to make a lib air-tight.
"Cruises are getting cheaper and cheaper. Heck, I even read recently that Wal-Mart is going to be selling cruise packages. You get a different class of people the cheaper they get."
I recommend an Alaskan cruise. The people who go on these cruises are usually older and wealthier and the scenery in Alaska is fantastic.
If somebody slipped her a "lethal dose of the date rape drug gamma-hydroxybutyrate", whose fault would that be?
I wonder if the men's names are middle eastern?
Goodbye, Joe, me gotta go ... me oh my-o ... me gotta go fo me pirogue dans le bayou ...
lol, that is funny
Simple solution to questionable conduct:
Closed Circuit TV cameras. Have a simple line in the brochure that states,"Our guests' enjoyment are our most important purpose. For the safety of all the common areas have closed circuit security."
Just put up a lot of cameras with a light on and have a sensor if a towel is thrown over them so they will alarm and security can come out straight away.
Please read my post carefully before you attack me. I was not referring to this woman at all, since I do not know her nor do I know how she behaves. Thats no. 1. Now as to your no.2, get a life please, it is liberals who do not want to punish the types that use such things as date rape drugs, you see, in my world you would die if you use such a thing, get it? Your no. 3. Irrelevant as you are speaking of one person while I was speaking generally, not about this one woman
I prefer to use rollers or electric sprayers if Im going to do the job in the first place.
You dont want the truth, you cant take the truth.
Frankly speaking, I believe that there are lots of people who wish to have these sexual predators loose and among us. These peoples only goal is to sexually hurt other people, yet society at large continually lets them out into their hunting areas for further action. I dare you to tell me I wrong on this.
You're clearly quite ignorant, or are just trolling.
The cameras are already there, on almost all cruise ships. YOU CANNOT PROTECT ANYONE ANYWHERE, WHEN THE PREDATOR'S GOAL IS TO DO HARM TO ANOTHER! A camera is not a substitute for good sense.
I am not blaming the victim, but if you hang out in ANY place drinking with strangers, this can happen.
It is easy to be wary, anywhere. It is bad to get attacked, killed or raped, and it happens everywhere...
Lots of people? LOL. You realize the rate of sex crimes in this country has been going down for the last decade or so?
These peoples only goal is to sexually hurt other people, yet society at large continually lets them out into their hunting areas for further action. I dare you to tell me I wrong on this.
You're wrong on this.
No, it is you who is wrong and obviously deluded too. It is a well known fact that sexual predators are routinely released to commit these types of crimes over and over. If you dont know this, you need to come out from under your rock more often.
Women go on cruises to meet "men"....men go on cruises to meet women....cruise companies encourage the social side of the cruise...it all says sex....nothing new here, it is the same as college...
It isn't just Muslims - I've seen Russian and Eastern European immigrant men do the same thing all the time, in grocery stores and other public places. They have the courage but are inconsiderate - "boorish" is the only word for it. It's just a totally different culture - and the opposite extreme from the American white men who have become so scared by the predominant feminist culture that they are extremely considerate toward women but have no courage - they won't even dare make eye contact. They just come on FR and complain about how mean American women are to them. ;)
"Frankly speaking, I believe that there are lots of people who wish to have these sexual predators loose and among us. These peoples only goal is to sexually hurt other people, yet society at large continually lets them out into their hunting areas for further action. I dare you to tell me I wrong on this."
You're wrong about this.
You're either trolling or ignorant.
No, you are wrong. Sexual predators are released and have the highest recidivism rate of all violent crimes. Why else do you think they have to put these people up in hotels and move them around all the time? No community wants them. Do some research and become better informed, you sound very ignorant. We can clearly see with the church cases that the predators are out in society after a few short years if they do any jail time at all. That is but one recent example.
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