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State Dept.: U.S. Hostage Tom Fox Killed
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Posted on 03/10/2006 5:54:48 PM PST by hole_n_one

State Dept.: U.S. Hostage Tom Fox Killed

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An American who was among four Christian activists kidnapped last year in Iraq has been killed, a State Department spokesman said Friday.

The FBI verified that a body found in Iraq Friday morning was that of Tom Fox, 54, of Clear Brook, Va., spokesman Noel Clay said. He said he had no information on the other three hostages.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: allahakbar; hostage; hostages; iraq; islam; islamic; murder; murderers; muslim; muslimdeathcult; muslims; pacifistloons; religionofpeace; rop; thereligionofpeace; tomfox; trop; tropdrop
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To: All

Karma.

Like Marla Ruzicka.


51 posted on 03/10/2006 6:29:10 PM PST by NoJoke
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To: SerpentDove

He went over there thinking we were wrong..that we were telling lies....that the muslims were the good guys and we were the bad guys...now he knows the truth....


52 posted on 03/10/2006 6:29:55 PM PST by Youngman442002
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To: WorkingClassFilth
His citizenship is no more valid to me than the latest inmate addition to any death row block.

OK, then let me also make the point that I don't care what the nationality, politics or religion of someone is if they are killed by cowards they didn't deserve it. This guy may have been a retard but in no way did he deserve to be ganged up on, trussed up then chopped up like a piece of meat. He was not harming people.

I would have preferred that the American escaped and lived to tell us of his mistakes. A changed man who would have realized that he was wrong. Would that have happened if he had escaped? We will never know now will we?

53 posted on 03/10/2006 6:30:06 PM PST by isthisnickcool (Jack Bauer: "By the time I'm finished with you you're going to wish you felt this good again".)
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To: SerpentDove; hole_n_one

I do not sympathize with the mans cause at all. I saw the posts that are now yanked, and think human decency is in order. This will be a high profile thread, and Jim has my respect. Common courtesy for h_n_o, who started the thread.


54 posted on 03/10/2006 6:31:28 PM PST by ARealMothersSonForever (Political troglodyte with a partisan axe to grind)
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To: NoJoke

This man was no true American. He left the good old USA to encourage those who would murder me and my family, and you and your family.

Was Jose Padilla a true American? How about Johnny Taliban? I thought not. How about the 911 pilots?

No crocodile tears here. Sorry, I'm fresh out.


55 posted on 03/10/2006 6:32:26 PM PST by SerpentDove (The internet is big. "Oprah" big.)
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To: Squantos

Bingo! This guy is a balding, middle-aged Rachel Corrie - different body but the same kind of mind.

I expect more of this in the future as the left activates every ally it has. The Protestant church is, for all practical purposes, apostate and has been for decades. Their seminaries turn out rubbish under platitudes of peace. The only cover they maintain is for the die-hards still left in the churches of their youth and who foot the bills. The day has come, however, when every global event brings more of the corruption to the surface in support of their overarching heretical agenda - man as god.

This guy is Rachel Corrie in drag - nothing more. Pity his kin.


56 posted on 03/10/2006 6:34:55 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth (Di'ver'si'ty (adj.): A compound word derived from the root words: division; perversion; adversity.)
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To: SerpentDove
No crocodile tears here. Sorry, I'm fresh out.

In Texas we have a saying that says "He needed killing". This guy didn't "need killing".

57 posted on 03/10/2006 6:35:41 PM PST by isthisnickcool (Jack Bauer: "By the time I'm finished with you you're going to wish you felt this good again".)
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To: isthisnickcool
I would have preferred that the American escaped and lived to tell us of his mistakes.

So would most of us. Tell us of his mistakes? Like? Like? Names, please. Barry Bonds? Elvis Presley? Jimmy Carter? Sorry, it may be just me, but I can't think of an American in recent memory who escaped (whatever there was to escape) and "tell us of his mistakes".

58 posted on 03/10/2006 6:36:46 PM PST by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything.")
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To: hole_n_one

I guess the "Religion of Peace" gave him all the peace he could handle, and then some..


59 posted on 03/10/2006 6:37:08 PM PST by AntiGuv
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To: hole_n_one
Fox had left instructions as to what should be done if he was kidnapped. "Under no circumstances did he want any violent efforts to rescue him," Maulden said.

It is most unlikely that I would ever find myself in Mr. Fox's situation, but should things take an odd turn and I found myself in his situation, I would ask that every kind of violence be brought to bear on the perpetrators by the most magnificent military the world has ever known.

60 posted on 03/10/2006 6:38:52 PM PST by Bahbah (An admitted Snow Flake)
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To: isthisnickcool
Even the worst American with the most vile politics is worth a 1000 of the muzzie scumbags.

Sorry, I can't agree. Two or three, maybe. One if it's a Bernie Sanders type.

61 posted on 03/10/2006 6:39:05 PM PST by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?")
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To: isthisnickcool
I would have preferred that the American escaped and lived to tell us of his mistakes. A changed man who would have realized that he was wrong. Would that have happened if he had escaped?

You suppose an awful lot. I think he was committed to his insane agenda every bit as much as the Islamofascists that killed him are to theirs. They are both willing to get us all killed for their warped world view. That, my friend, makes them equally dangerous to our freedoms and lives.

We will never know now will we?

No, we won't. Maybe we should all have a good cry and put him in a martyr's hall of fame with Rachel Corrie.
62 posted on 03/10/2006 6:41:12 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth (Di'ver'si'ty (adj.): A compound word derived from the root words: division; perversion; adversity.)
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To: WorkingClassFilth

I do feel for his family, but while they may really believe they are doing "God's work" or something, they put our troops in harms way - we have to go looking for them (I'm assuming?) and that puts our guys in danger. Bottom line, if they didn't go over there they wouldn't wind up hostages. I can't imagine what his family is going through (they're from not too far from where I live).


63 posted on 03/10/2006 6:42:13 PM PST by Romanov
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To: eeevil conservative

It's just amazing to me that anyone can be so clueless and think they can tame these critters.


We all understand them, be Muslim or die, just that simple.


64 posted on 03/10/2006 6:42:47 PM PST by Mr Cobol (We know how many seeds are in an apple, but only God knows how many apples are in a seed.)
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To: varmintxer

I can't imagine ANYONE grasping onto that as a good idea....

agree with all I tell you.. DO all I tell you... or die...

WOW!


65 posted on 03/10/2006 6:45:21 PM PST by eeevil conservative (I am not flirting......I am not flirting.......honest, I am not flirting......ok..I AM flirting.....)
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To: varmintxer

by the way... how many seeds are in an apple?


66 posted on 03/10/2006 6:45:43 PM PST by eeevil conservative (I am not flirting......I am not flirting.......honest, I am not flirting......ok..I AM flirting.....)
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To: WorkingClassFilth

>>The Protestant church is, for all practical purposes, apostate and has been for decades. Their seminaries turn out rubbish under platitudes of peace. <<

I attended a Southern Baptist Seminary (SWBTS) for two years. While it has been cleaned up to an extent, liberal theology was rampant. If you challenged it, you were cutting against the grain and called "intolerant" and "unloving."

Thankfully, the libs have been pretty much exorcised from what I have seen, and have started their own program in opposition to the conservative Cooperative Program.

That was my first face-to-face in-person witness of what we are up against: liberalism in all its insidious, deceptive masquerade.

I spoke up and spoke out in my classes, protested to one of the Deans in a private meeting, and was seen as a disruptor by many, but I saw the most liberal of my professors get fired for liberal theology.

Liberal theology is one of the most serious threats we face, which may seem odd to those who are not particularly religious. Liberal theology is at the heart of Marxism and is Satanic in origin.

Liberalism (i.e., "lies" which =freedom, as opposed to "truth" which = freedom) is the enemy.

I know whereof I speak.


67 posted on 03/10/2006 6:45:45 PM PST by SerpentDove (The internet is big. "Oprah" big.)
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To: Revolting cat!

Americans know nothing of risks...

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68 posted on 03/10/2006 6:46:30 PM PST by Mrs. Shawnlaw (No NAIS! And the USDA can bugger off, too!)
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To: JimRed

Small point, but there aren't that many Bernie Sanders-types out there. At least he's honest about being a Socialist.


69 posted on 03/10/2006 6:47:26 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: MizSterious

I wonder where you got your information that he suffered before they murdered him. I am certain that the peace loving mooslims gave him a sedative before they cut his head off with a rusty butter knife.


70 posted on 03/10/2006 6:48:57 PM PST by cabbieguy ("I suppose it will all make sense when we grow up")
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To: hole_n_one

condolences to the family. fn MSM is worried about wire taping ppl like the ones who just killed this innocent american..


71 posted on 03/10/2006 6:49:05 PM PST by Cinnamon
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To: WorkingClassFilth
I would consider him a yet another fool who got what he unthinkingly sought.

Like that feller who went out to commune with the bears a couple of years ago....

72 posted on 03/10/2006 6:49:11 PM PST by sphinx
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To: SerpentDove

Sorry for the typo. I meant to say:

Liberalism (i.e., "lies" which = bondage, as opposed to "truth" which = freedom) is the enemy.


73 posted on 03/10/2006 6:49:41 PM PST by SerpentDove (The internet is big. "Oprah" big.)
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To: sphinx

Yep.


74 posted on 03/10/2006 6:52:07 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth (Di'ver'si'ty (adj.): A compound word derived from the root words: division; perversion; adversity.)
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To: hole_n_one

And to think, many Freepers don't believe in Darwinism.


75 posted on 03/10/2006 6:52:24 PM PST by don'tbedenied ( D)
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To: hole_n_one

God be with his family, and welcome His servant into His loving arms.


76 posted on 03/10/2006 6:53:39 PM PST by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraq War VET! THANKS, son!!!!)
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To: SerpentDove

Good for you. Good thing the SBs tightened things up, too. That's when Jim-mah left claiming the SBs were so-o-o-o-o intolerant. Truth is not in the virtues of lexicon of the left anymore than exposure in broad daylight is part of the survival strategy of cockroaches.


77 posted on 03/10/2006 6:54:58 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth (Di'ver'si'ty (adj.): A compound word derived from the root words: division; perversion; adversity.)
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To: eeevil conservative

You're soooo cool. Depending on the pollination of the apple there should be 2 seeds in each pocket and for most apples there are 5 pockets, so there should be 10 seeds per apple.

But like I said it depends on the pollination.

I'm not sure if the word 'pocket' is correct.


78 posted on 03/10/2006 6:57:08 PM PST by Mr Cobol (We know how many seeds are in an apple, but only God knows how many apples are in a seed.)
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To: isthisnickcool
The really sad part is that he must have realized in his last moments how wrong he had been all his life. That everything he believed was completely backward. As he was being tortured, he had to think of what he was accusing the Americans of wasn't really torture at all. What he was experiencing from these terrorist was what REAL torture was all about.

Sadly, it was too late for him do anything, and there was no way to tell anyone, to warn them.

May God rest his tortured soul.

79 posted on 03/10/2006 6:57:59 PM PST by McGavin999 (I suggest the UAE form a Joint Venture Partnership with Halliburton & Wal-Mart)
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To: isthisnickcool
He was not harming people.

I strongly disagree. He was harming American (and other Coalition) soldiers because he was there to actively undermine our cause. I don't think he deserved to die, but I'm not shedding any tears for him. Sow the wind, reap the whirlwind...

80 posted on 03/10/2006 7:00:32 PM PST by thecabal ("Now die monkeys and stop saying Muslims are terrorists,we are peaceful people!")
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To: eeevil conservative
by the way... how many seeds are in an apple?

Give him a hint. Less than 12.

81 posted on 03/10/2006 7:00:36 PM PST by ARealMothersSonForever (Political troglodyte with a partisan axe to grind)
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To: hole_n_one

I am sick of them beheading and killing whoever they please. I dont mean to offend anyone but I am thinking about how these monsters dont mind dying for their "cause" and how they go to heaven and get 100 virgins or whatever. So I think for every person the terrorists kill we should take maybe 100 of them and kill them by disembowellment. Which consists of being disembowelled, and the genitalia and entrails burned before the victim's eyes; the heart was the last to be removed and was then shown to the victim before the entrails were burned. Yes I am barbaric, but so are they and if I have offended anyone I am sorry. But enough is enough! And yes I am a fan of torture if it will prevent another 9/11 or more terror attacks.


82 posted on 03/10/2006 7:01:49 PM PST by pandoraou812 (dilligaf)
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To: varmintxer

LOL! WOW!

I did not KNOW that!

But I do now! and I LOVE your tag line!

it just shows how we never know what God has in store.. we may see some things as so small and meaningless... but they could be orchards......

it is a message of HOPE! I LIKE IT!


83 posted on 03/10/2006 7:05:08 PM PST by eeevil conservative (I am not flirting......I am not flirting.......honest, I am not flirting......ok..I AM flirting.....)
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To: WorkingClassFilth
Maybe we should all have a good cry and put him in a martyr's hall of fame with Rachel Corrie.

I didn't know the guy and won't be shedding a tear. But it pisses me off when devoid cowards butcher somebody that can't defend themselves. It's evil and devilish when someone does it to a defensless person no matter what the situation. I don't like cowards and won't justify what happened to this guy. You wanna rip the throats out of the people that murdered him? Find them and put them in a large blender and set it on fast? THAT works for me.

I have some friends who's daughter was running one morning. She was abducted and butchered. The thought that she might be at fault in some way for what happened to her is something I would never agree with. This fellow may have been a fool but nothing he did justified what happened to him.

84 posted on 03/10/2006 7:06:16 PM PST by isthisnickcool (Jack Bauer: "By the time I'm finished with you you're going to wish you felt this good again".)
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To: hole_n_one

I work every damn day, Bill Gates works, Warren Buffett works, George Will works, Guvnor Arnold works, Bob Dylan works, heck, even the Swimmer works, but these Tom Foxes, Cindy Sheehans, Rachel Corries just travel the world and protest? What's wrong and why is it that no one in the media is ever asking this very basic question?


85 posted on 03/10/2006 7:06:55 PM PST by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything.")
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To: WorkingClassFilth

>>Good for you. Good thing the SBs tightened things up, too. That's when Jim-mah left claiming the SBs were so-o-o-o-o intolerant.<<

I was there JUST PRIOR to the split (until 1992). Until then, I wasn't really too aware of what was happening within the Southern Baptist Convention, I just wanted to learn about the Bible...although there were rumblings that Joe Average on the street probably knew about: "The SBs are fighting amongst themselves."

Boy, did I get an eyeful, up close and personal.

There was not "infighting" at the Seminary itself, at least not on the surface. "Unity" and "tolerance" were strongly encouraged. Dissent was seen as "unloving" and "intolerant." (Sound familiar?)

Just like liberals in politics, my liberal professors used smokescreens when you tried to nail them down to exactly what they were saying, they parsed their words, they used deception and evasion, and painted you as the "unloving one" who wanted to "destroy the fellowship" if you disagreed (they demonized their opposition.)

Keep in mind, this was exactly when Bill Clinton took office, so when he brought his act to the world stage and was using the EXACT PLAYBOOK I had seen used the seminary, I knew this was huge.

Liberalism is not only a mental disorder, it is a spiritual abomination, which enslaves people with its lies.


86 posted on 03/10/2006 7:07:01 PM PST by SerpentDove (The internet is big. "Oprah" big.)
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To: WorkingClassFilth

He is one of the peace-nik pseudo-religionists that gravitate to the apostate denominations. Here's his organization [ http://www.cpt.org/publications/history.php ]. It's unfortunate that he was killed, but I do not consider him guiltless in his own death. In fact, I would consider him a yet another fool who got what he unthinkingly sought. Pity should be reserved for the relatives that cared about him and the pain that they will be left with.

You got this 1000 % correct. What the hell was the idiot doing going to Iraq. I feel for his family, but he was a moron !!


87 posted on 03/10/2006 7:09:16 PM PST by Pedrobud (Wake up you liberal morons. Bush is not the enemy !!)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
You gotta feel bad for a guy who goes to Iraq to prove WE, the USA, are abusing the Al Qaeda terrorists in Iraq and he ends up like this. Like Elmer Fudd says, "It's a scwewy world."

Elmer Fudd would be laughing at the iwony of it all.

88 posted on 03/10/2006 7:11:21 PM PST by Dr.Deth
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To: McGavin999

Amen...


89 posted on 03/10/2006 7:13:03 PM PST by lawdog
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To: isthisnickcool
I have some friends who's daughter was running one morning. She was abducted and butchered. The thought that she might be at fault in some way for what happened to her is something I would never agree with.

Your logic is faulty. In your analogy, Mr. Fox would be like somebody that defended the butcher of the girl and impeded efforts of the police to apprehend the perp. Fox was opposed to our efforts and, thus, he was an agent on behalf of what we are trying to stop over there. Ask yourself these questions: Was Chamberlain a useful tool of Hitler? Did his appeasement policies add to the causes of war or did they help prevent the horrors of WWII?

I'll grant you that no sound human would ever do to him what they undoubtedly did, but he is still a victim of his own ignorance. Be glad that he and his kind do not yet have control of all our lives or we will all end up like the poor girl you mentioned.
90 posted on 03/10/2006 7:15:09 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth (Di'ver'si'ty (adj.): A compound word derived from the root words: division; perversion; adversity.)
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To: thecabal

then maybe God punished him by having him fall in the hands of the enemy.


91 posted on 03/10/2006 7:19:10 PM PST by Cinnamon
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To: WorkingClassFilth

did, but he is still a victim of his own ignorance


Arogance


92 posted on 03/10/2006 7:19:57 PM PST by al baby (Father of the Beeber)
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To: eeevil conservative

I have to give credit to the tagline to a little Mexican food cafe that I go to in Bridgeport Ne.

However I dedicate my love of nature to my Dad, he was my inspiration and I have passed it down to my daughters.

This deal with Fox getting murdered is a real bummer but these people need to get a clue, this is serious and 'feel good' isn't going to cut it.


93 posted on 03/10/2006 7:23:02 PM PST by Mr Cobol (We know how many seeds are in an apple, but only God knows how many apples are in a seed.)
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To: al baby

That too.


94 posted on 03/10/2006 7:24:28 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth (Di'ver'si'ty (adj.): A compound word derived from the root words: division; perversion; adversity.)
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To: All

Here is what gets me, tomorrow all the libs will say that it is Bush's fault this guy is dead, not the terroist who killed this man!


95 posted on 03/10/2006 7:25:56 PM PST by Halls (Dallas County, Texas, but my heart is in East Texas!)
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To: WorkingClassFilth
In fact, I would consider him a yet another fool who got what he unthinkingly sought. Pity should be reserved for the relatives that cared about him and the pain that they will be left with.

In another connection, reminds me of this thread in a macabre kind of way.

Prayers going up!

96 posted on 03/10/2006 7:26:47 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: varmintxer

well kudos to you and your dad!

and AMEN to the 'feel good' not cuttin' it!


97 posted on 03/10/2006 7:27:26 PM PST by eeevil conservative (I am not flirting......I am not flirting.......honest, I am not flirting......ok..I AM flirting.....)
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To: hole_n_one
Rule #1 -- Stay the f#ck out of Iraq.

Rule #2 -- If you ever get the urge to travel to a dysfunctional Third World Islamic sh!t-hole like Iraq, see Rule #1.

98 posted on 03/10/2006 7:28:45 PM PST by Alberta's Child
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To: GRRRRR

knicker-bundled ???


99 posted on 03/10/2006 7:29:32 PM PST by JoeSixPack1
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To: hole_n_one

In my next life I'll be a professional protester too. I'll protest in Monaco (casino), Czech Republic (beer), Switzerland (army knives), Macao (hookers), Hong Kong (electronics and three piece suits), Singapore (no spitting), Argentina (beef), Andorra, Palm Springs (weather.)


100 posted on 03/10/2006 7:29:47 PM PST by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything.")
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