Skip to comments.State Dept.: U.S. Hostage Tom Fox Killed
Posted on 03/10/2006 5:54:48 PM PST by hole_n_one
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They also have TV ads that I have seen on the Fox News Channel. I have to say that it is slick marketing. It presents the "facts" in a context that is hard to be against (as if Jesus is telling us all personally to join the Sierra Club). I would like to see some talk show hosts address who is behind it and expose their agenda.
Hugging is good - but beheading is baaaaaaaaaad, mmmmkay?
Joking aside, when are these people going to get it?
Anyway, prayers for a lost soul. Tom's last moments really must have been bad, but he lived like he wanted to and everyone sees the result. His murder ultimately re-justifies our presence in Iraq.
I read this morning somewhere that his hands were tied behind him and he had been shot in the head. There was evidence of torture by electric cables (beaten by them it was thought).
And here's a link to the site of the delusional leftist organization he belonged to. Interesting reading.
PROFOUND words of WISDOM!
A TREMENDOUS ADDITION TO THIS THREAD!
THANK YOU for sharing that!
I don't know. Someone put that photo on the song thread I did for the human shield adventure.
Good point, and maybe it is time to unleash the nukes of war on Iran and the rest of the muskie enclaves.
As I See It,
Prayers for his family,Guess Rush was wrong on this one.
"Dyin' ain't much of a livin', boy"
--The Outlaw Josey Wales
Nothing changed except our regards for the graciousness of his captors. Will anyone learn?
"Read the link I provide about his sponsor (or cover) organization. He was no friend of America, our troops or our way of life. His citizenship seems to have been by fortune of birth and nothing more - as it is for all travelers."
To be honest I don't care. Having the wrong political ideas doesn't warrent a violent death at the hands of muslim radicals. My thoughts and prayers are with the family of Mr. Fox.
"Christian Peacemaker Teams had been working in Iraq since October 2002"
Oddly enough, we didn't invade Iraq until Spring 2003.
Quite frankly, given our forces track record of finding these hostages, I have begun to simply believe them dead once they are taken. It's not a knock against our men and women in uniform, they are simply not trained to find the proverbial needle in the haystack.
When will we learn, let's use some airpower and decimate them...?
The Presbyterian Church USA is trying to get people to divest from Isreal in protest of the wall. These liberal denominations are naively dangerous.
The terrorists haven't won anything .. in fact this treatment of an American will just solidify our troops even more. The terrorist's action prove they cannot be dealth with except TO KILL THEM before THEY KILL US.
I was responding to a knee-jerk, "nuke 'em all"-type reaction that has since been deleted by a Mod.
As far as I can tell, Mr. Fox went over there as a war prostester...to encourage "the resistance"....basically to help the enemy and further undermine our WOT. The "resistance" killed him anyway. This tells me, maybe not everyone else, that the terrorists are out to kill infidels and the infidels politics do not matter.
It could have just been a misunderstanding, however, and miscommunication due to the language barrier....heh heh heh
But terrorists neither fear nor respect the defeatists and deluded peacenik leftists who seek to mollify and "understand" them. For them they have nothing but contempt.
Well .. my post was a good msg anyway!
Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.
I may believe that this man was foolish for doing what he did, but I have to respect him for believing in something so much that he put his own life on the line.
Their (CPT) mantra is... Get In The Way! Well, he got in the way, and he got smoked. Fairly straight forward lesson. He underestimated the heinous nature of the enemy (EVIL personified.)
Remember Nick Berg who was beheaded loved Islam per his dad. That was the beheading with picture and/or audio. It was on so much that I'd turn down the radio.
"When they finally got there, Hussein wanted a thousand bucks from each. Then, he wanted them to be human shields at places like powerplants that were targets."
- - > "They didn't bargain on that, so they went back home."
Well...one smart thing they actually managed to do...
Big difference....this did not plow a plane into a building killing thousands. He lived and died on a truly christian ideal and it puzzles me why so many so-called christians here would imply that he got his just reward.
when I first heard about these four kidnappings,
my thought was, this could hve been staged.
I still think so.
free lance diplomats, human shields, etc.
just giving aid and comfort to the enemy
Are any of the people on FR who insisted this guy and his group faked their own kidnapping now going to admit they were wrong? Or just pile on about how he deserved it.
Perhaps you would care to enlighten me as to how they don't have anything in common with Christ or Scriptural directives.
Uh, I thought he "FIRMLY opposed all repression". Maybe like Saddam slaughtering hundreds of thousands of people, maybe? No. That was A-OK to Mr. Fox. If he had his way Hussein would still be filling up mass graves. Jesus said "turn the other cheek". He didn't say "help and abet enemies of your country slaughter innocents."
Traveling into a combat zone to disparage and disrupt your own nation's military service members, while simultaneously giving sympathetic aid and comfort to enemy COMBATANTS, does not fit ANY definition of "peacemaker," biblical or otherwise.
I have to respect him for believing in something so much that he put his own life on the line.
By that argument, you must also respect suicide bombers. Or the 9/11 hijackers. Or "Rat Boy" (Jihad Johnny Walker Lindh). How about spies and traitors within our military and government who aid our enemies because they believe America is evil?
This guy clearly took the position that the USA is the problem in Iraq. If there is any record of him going to Iraq before the war to protest Saddam's regime, Saddam's tortures, Saddam's murders, I'll apologize. But as I see it, the guy was trying to make peace with the enemies of civilization; he was an educated man, and I am not going to make excuses for him by calling him a fool. Keep in mind, his fate will be the fate of all of us if we adopt his point of view.
On each death of American, drive THREE Guantanomo terrorists through streets on rope to car. This will teach them about respecting America.
Uh, perhaps you would care to answer that question for me - as I asked first.
I believe you are 100% correct. Those claiming his Christian identity are trusting in the name of Christ and not seeing the humanistic nature of the apostate church.
Yep, you got it. See this post: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1594253/posts?page=6#6
Anyone can claim to be a good Christian. But that doesn't make it so. Michael Morales, that piece of offal on California's death row, is a prime example.
Unfortunately, many of the Christian churches in America have been infiltrated and corrupted by the Left, just as they have done with our schools and universities, newspapers and media, and judicial benches. For them, it's just another battlefront in their war on America and traditional family values.
Again, I believe you are 100% correct.
Nothing personal but that's crap. He was a US citizen and didn't in any, way shape or form deserve to be slaughtered like some kind of animal. He was killed by f'ing robotic evil worthless cowards. Even the worst American with the most vile politics is worth a 1000 of the muzzie scumbags.
Time to do what the Romans did...Oh, sorry Cindy Seahag and Code Pinko will have kittens if we were to act like the empire that they claim we are. (rereading that I'm not sure that it makes any sense)...1000 dead muslims for every dead American proselytizer or not.
I found this in an email from a group I had used for reference once, preparing something for church, and have been getting email newsletters, which I never read, but this one said "Rememebering Tom Fox, so of course I opened it. Interesting, needless to say:
Tom's last journey
by Doug Pritchard
Our brother Tom has begun his final journey home.
He left Anaconda military base at Balat, Iraq, at dawn on Mar. 13 (9 p.m. EST, Mar. 12), and is expected to arrive at Dover Air Force Base in Delaware at 1 a.m. EST, Mar. 14.
CPT Toronto was originally informed by Canadian authorities at 1:30 p.m. EST Mar. 10, that a body had been found in Baghdad which was likely that of Tom Fox. An hour later, when the CPT Iraq team asked officials at the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad if they could come to identify the body, they were told that it had already left on a military transport for Dover. Officials had repeatedly assured the team over the previous three months that CPT would be able to accompany our colleagues home "if at all possible." They now said that their only focus was getting the body back to the USA as soon as possible. At 8 p.m. EST, the U.S. State Department confirmed the identity as Tom Fox based on fingerprints.
The next day, Mar. 11, at 10 a.m. EST, CPT Iraq learned that Tom's body was still at the Anaconda base at Balat. The U.S. Embassy arranged for Beth Pyles, a member of the CPT Iraq team, to travel to Anaconda, and she was able to keep vigil with Tom for the next 36 hours until his departure. Meanwhile, CPT members Rich Meyer and Anne Montgomery travelled to Dover, and have been in the vicinity since 5 p.m. Mar. 11, keeping vigil and awaiting Tom's arrival.
Pyles was present on the tarmac at Anaconda as Tom's coffin was loaded onto the plane for Dover. She reported that his coffin was draped in a U.S. flag. This is unusual for a civilian, but Tom may not have been uncomfortable with this since he had always called his nation to live out the high ideals which it professed. Iraqi detainees who die in U.S custody are also transported to Dover for autopsies and forensics. On this plane, right beside Tom's coffin, was the coffin of an Iraqi detainee. So Tom accompanied an Iraqi detainee in death, just as he had done so often in life.
At Tom's departure, Pyles read out from the gospel of John, "The light shines in the darkness and the darkness did not overcome it" (1:5). In honour of Tom's Iraqi companion, she spoke the words called out repeatedly from the mosques of Baghdad during the Shock and Awe bombing campaign in March 2003, "allah akhbar" (God is greater). She concluded the sending with words from the Jewish scriptures, "The LORD gave, and the LORD has taken away; blessed be the name of the LORD" (Job 1:21).
Dawn broke. The contingent of Puerto Rican soldiers nearby saluted. The plane taxied away. Venus, the morning star, shone brightly overhead as the night faded away. Godspeed you, Tom, on your final journey home to your family and friends.
Doug Pritchard is a co-director of Christian Peacemaker Teams.
Then, there was this:
Remembering Tom Fox
by Celeste Kennel-Shank
Some said they wanted revenge. Others said they were trying to forgive those who took his life. Others came to pray tribute to their former friend and colleague.
In a discussion led by Tom Fox's colleagues and professors from Eastern Mennonite University's Center for Justice and Peacebuilding on Saturday night in Washington, D.C., participants pondered peace issues, response to Fox's death, and the possibility of reconciliation with those labeled enemies.
(But I'd need to register to read the article, and I'm not going to do that.)
How about 1000 mosques instead?
I agree with you wholeheartedly Brother!!!
Don't Tread On Us,
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