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Martinsville High School Student Chokes to Death at School (Teacher prevented 911 call)
WISH Channel 8 TV ^ | 3/10/06

Posted on 03/10/2006 8:43:53 PM PST by Samwise

Several Martinsville High School students say teachers stopped their calls to 911 while a fellow student was choking, because cell phones aren't allowed on campus.

Witnesses tell police the victim was rushing to finish his lunch before leaving the cafeteria, because you can't bring food outside. That's when they say he started choking, went into cardiac arrest, and died at the hospital.

Multiple 911 calls went out from Martinsville High School.

Witnesses say Jesse Tucker choked on a hamburger. Paramedics rushed the 15 year-old freshman to the hospital, where he later died.

"It's really hard to grasp the fact that you witnessed someone's death," says one student, "It's really hard to take in."

24 Hour News 8 spoke to another student witness who also wants to remain anonymous. He says one of his friends tried to call 911 with his cell phone, but just as he reached an operator, he says a teacher closed his phone saying cell phones aren't allowed on campus.

"She just closed his phone. She didn't do much to help the situation. She was panicky, she didn't go to the nurse's office," says one of the students.

Martinsville Police Chief Frans Hollanders says the investigation is still in preliminary stages, and at this point, investigators aren't pointing fingers.

"We've heard rumors to such an effect, that a cell phone was slapped out of a kids hand," Hollanders says, "We haven't been able to determine that at all whatsoever."

School officicals wouldn't talk on camera, but we caught up with an assistant superintendent and he issued this statement, "We are still in shock. We do believe the teacher did everything she could in the situation."

The police chief is encouraging witnesses to share their stories with investigators.

24 Hour News 8 did speak to Jesse's father Friday night. Understandably, he says he's still in shock and just wants to know exactly what happened.

An autopsy is scheduled for Saturday morning.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Indiana
KEYWORDS: abdomencompressions; cellular; choke; cpr; deathcultivation; emt; firstaid; firstresponders; hamburger; heimlich; in; indiana; martinsville; pspl; rescue; rescuesquad; student; wireless; zerotolerance
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1 posted on 03/10/2006 8:43:59 PM PST by Samwise
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To: Samwise

Prayers for his family.


2 posted on 03/10/2006 8:46:49 PM PST by Talking_Mouse (Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just... Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Samwise

And no one used Heimlich?


3 posted on 03/10/2006 8:47:03 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: sageb1

There are school rules agains hugging.


4 posted on 03/10/2006 8:48:00 PM PST by null and void (I nominate Sept 11th: "National Moderate Muslim Day of Tacit Approval". - Mr. Rational, paraphrased)
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To: DaveLoneRanger; Tired of Taxes

ping


5 posted on 03/10/2006 8:49:52 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Samwise

Oh God...how tragic. Prayers for his soul and prayers for his heartbroken family. I just can't imagine.


6 posted on 03/10/2006 8:50:01 PM PST by cubreporter (I trust Rush. He has done more for this country than we will ever know. Thanks, Rush!)
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To: Samwise

Give me a break. Isn't there anyone on that campus that has a Medic First Aid certification?

Prayers for the family.


7 posted on 03/10/2006 8:51:16 PM PST by notpoliticallycorewrecked (God bless our military)
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To: Blue Jays
Hi All-

The teacher didn't cause the student to choke because cellular telephones aren't allowed on campus. At the same time, the kid should have been more forceful and just yelled, "Mrs. Jones, I'm calling 9-1-1 because that guy is choking over there. Please give him the Heimlich Maneuver while I call."

~ Blue Jays ~

8 posted on 03/10/2006 8:51:16 PM PST by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: agrace; bboop; cgk; Conservativehomeschoolmama; cyborg; cyclotic; DaveLoneRanger; dawn53; ...

Ping

Very sad.


9 posted on 03/10/2006 8:52:12 PM PST by Tired of Taxes (That's taxes, not Texas. I have no beef with TX. NJ has the highest property taxes in the nation.)
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To: sageb1
And no one used Heimlich?

Apparently, the only "rule" the teachers knew was that cell 'phones were not allowed ... no common sense there ... poor kid ... stupid teachers ...criminal negligence.

10 posted on 03/10/2006 8:52:26 PM PST by caryatid (Jolie Blonde, 'gardez donc, quoi t'as fait ...)
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To: Samwise

I'm pretty sure no teacher in their right mind would slap a phone out of a student's hand.


11 posted on 03/10/2006 8:52:33 PM PST by rfreedom4u (Native Texan)
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To: Samwise

Rules RULE!

Damn.


12 posted on 03/10/2006 8:52:37 PM PST by lightman (The Office of the Keys should be exercised as some ministry needs to be exorcised.)
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To: Samwise
Several Martinsville High School students say teachers stopped their calls to 911 while a fellow student was choking, because cell phones aren't allowed on campus.

Witnesses tell police the victim was rushing to finish his lunch before leaving the cafeteria, because you can't bring food outside. That's when they say he started choking, went into cardiac arrest, and died at the hospital.

Good thing there are some reasonable, modest, common-sense, do-it-for-the-children regulations in place at this institution. People's lives depend on it!!

13 posted on 03/10/2006 8:53:27 PM PST by coloradan (Failing to protect the liberties of your enemies establishes precedents that will reach to yourself.)
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To: Samwise
What's wrong with some people that they think rules are more important than common sense? The kids who were intimidated and stopped by the teachers will live with the guilt of not having acted for the rest of their Lives. They'll always be wondering, "What if I hadn't listened to the teacher? He might be alive today."

Shouldn't teachers be required to be trained in that kind of basic first aid? In a situation like that, there's no time to go for help.

14 posted on 03/10/2006 8:54:04 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Samwise
Nobody knew how to do the Heimlich maneuver? And nobody attempted CPR?

I thought Heimlich and CPR posters were required to be posted in all facilities that provide food.

This is beyond belief!

Yes, I'm a Red Cross/USAF-trained first aid instructor -- and I know that CPR is basically worth little until Heimlich is used to clear the airway...

15 posted on 03/10/2006 8:54:41 PM PST by TXnMA (TROP: Satan's most successful earthly venture...)
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To: Blue Jays

I think that teacher needs some serious going-over. Nothing more than an irresponsible bureaucrat who prizes rules over lives.


16 posted on 03/10/2006 8:54:47 PM PST by coydog
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To: null and void

Right. No touching the children in a life-threatening situation...but one on one "sex ed",well, that's a different story!! How very sad.


17 posted on 03/10/2006 8:56:02 PM PST by andyssister
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To: Blue Jays
Hi All-

Somewhere along the way the old "Zero Tolerance" excuse is going to be trotted out...

~ Blue Jays ~

18 posted on 03/10/2006 8:56:02 PM PST by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: metmom

I was just reading this one, too. What a terrible tragedy.


19 posted on 03/10/2006 8:56:59 PM PST by Tired of Taxes (That's taxes, not Texas. I have no beef with TX. NJ has the highest property taxes in the nation.)
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To: metmom

I don't know how much of this is true and how much isn't. I just think the whole thing is so tragic and senseless. Poor kid. Poor family.


20 posted on 03/10/2006 8:57:48 PM PST by Samwise (All that is needed for evil to triumph is that good men do nothing.)
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To: TXnMA

I knew how to do both Heimlich and CPR when in high school. We all had to learn it in a Health class that most of us took the freshman year. Of course, I didn't go to school in Indiana. (obviously!)


21 posted on 03/10/2006 8:57:53 PM PST by AntiGuv
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To: sageb1

"And no one used Heimlich?"

Teaching the Heimlich was dropped to allow the teaching of the proper way to put on a condom!


22 posted on 03/10/2006 8:58:13 PM PST by lawdude (2006 Republican bumper sticker : Vote Republican: We are NOT democrats!)
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To: coydog
Hi coydog-

No doubt about it, an instructor who interferes with a 9-1-1 call has a few screws loose.

~ Blue Jays ~

23 posted on 03/10/2006 8:59:19 PM PST by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: Samwise
This was a terrible accident. Apparently nobody knew about or was able to do the Heimlich maneuver.
24 posted on 03/10/2006 8:59:28 PM PST by xJones (St sammen med danskerne !)
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To: Samwise

How horrible......when I was that age at a Church meeting I ALMOST witnessed a fellow at across from me at our dinner table choke to death on ice cream.....one of the adults, after we started making a commotion (and realized he wasn't just laughing...he was choking) came and got him, and threw him against a wall.....it saved his life. I'm surprised it appears no one thought to grab this student and do something.


25 posted on 03/10/2006 9:00:19 PM PST by goodnesswins ( "the left can only take power through deception." (and it seems Hillary & Company are the masters)
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To: null and void
There are school rules against hugging.

We were instructed about the Heimlich maneuver in 8th grade health class, but not how to put a condom on a banana. I guess some life skills are more important than others.

26 posted on 03/10/2006 9:01:15 PM PST by operation clinton cleanup
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To: AntiGuv
Hi AntiGuv-

We even learned how to conduct a self-Heimlich using a plain deskchair in the event you found yourself choking without assistance nearby. I'd imagine it would be difficult to maintain composure when you feel your air being restricted. The experts even advise curling your fist into your gut and pumping rapidly with all your strength. At that point, you have nothing to lose.

~ Blue Jays ~

27 posted on 03/10/2006 9:02:26 PM PST by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: Samwise
...students say teachers stopped their calls to 911.... Multiple 911 calls went out from Martinsville High School.

Let's get beyond emotionalism and seek the truth of the matter.

28 posted on 03/10/2006 9:03:00 PM PST by Socratic (I'll have the roast duck with the mango salsa.)
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To: caryatid

>>Apparently, the only "rule" the teachers knew was that cell 'phones were not allowed ... no common sense there ... poor kid ... stupid teachers ...criminal negligence.
<<

Reminds me of the little first grade girl who was kicked out of school for a weapons violation. She brought a chain to school, and chains are not allowed.

Actually, it was the tiny chain on her Tweety Bird keychain, but a weapon is a weapon is a weapon: zero tolerance. And we can't risk a lawsuit for applying the rules unevenly, can we?


29 posted on 03/10/2006 9:05:49 PM PST by SerpentDove (The internet is big. "Oprah" big.)
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To: Socratic
Hi Socratic-

It will be interesting to see the telephone logs. The other unfortunate thing is that there may have been an episode of Kitty Genovese Syndrome shared responsibility influencing students towards inaction.

~ Blue Jays ~

30 posted on 03/10/2006 9:07:58 PM PST by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: Blue Jays

>>Kitty Genovese Syndrome<<

What is that?


31 posted on 03/10/2006 9:09:17 PM PST by SerpentDove (The internet is big. "Oprah" big.)
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To: SerpentDove
Hi SerpentDove-

Kitty Genovese Syndrome is also known as bystander apathy. It is a psychological phenomenon where persons are less likely to intervene in an emergency situation when others are present than when they are alone. The name comes from Kitty Genovese, a woman whose murder was witnessed by nearly forty people in 1964. Each of the witnesses thought that "someone else" was contacting the police or somehow lending assistance. She died of multiple stab wounds.

~ Blue Jays ~

32 posted on 03/10/2006 9:14:49 PM PST by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: Blue Jays

Wow! Thanks!

(Yikes)


33 posted on 03/10/2006 9:17:36 PM PST by SerpentDove (The internet is big. "Oprah" big.)
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To: caryatid

Death by teacher.


34 posted on 03/10/2006 9:19:16 PM PST by July 4th (A vacant lot cancelled out my vote for Bush.)
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To: rfreedom4u

You are pretty sure a teacher would never do that? Because????????? Any number of teachers would be capable of doing that, any person who was panicked and was a sort of rule-keeper person, any number of people without common sense or the courtesy to ask what was going on.


35 posted on 03/10/2006 9:19:19 PM PST by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: Samwise
He says one of his friends tried to call 911 with his cell phone, but just as he reached an operator, he says a teacher closed his phone saying cell phones aren't allowed on campus.

At that point, they would have needed two ambulances--one for the teacher.

Prayers up for the family and friends.

36 posted on 03/10/2006 9:20:27 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: Blue Jays
It will be interesting to see the telephone logs.

Indeed. I'm sure much of what is assumed to be true now, will be discovered to be the student rumor-mill in full swing. That's an interesting insight about the Kitty Genovese tragedy. I don't think it's just apathy, but also a healthy dose of fear which drives such behavior.

37 posted on 03/10/2006 9:21:49 PM PST by Socratic (I'll have the roast duck with the mango salsa.)
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To: Samwise
It is highly possible that choking on a hamburger is not what caused this student to die, and that the Heimlich would not have helped. While witnesses may believe that to be the case from the circumstances, the autopsy will have to determine exactly what happened.

Exactly three weeks ago today, my 14-year old son was talking with three friends before the start of their seventh period high school class. One of them turned around to walk away and suddenly dropped right to the floor. At first they thought he was playing a joke, but then they realized he was having some kind of seizure. A teacher started CPR right away when she found no pulse, and paramedics were there within minutes. Despite putting every possible drug in him and shocking him four times, his heart just wouldn't start.

Everyone at the school has been just devastated by this. We've known the boy since kindergarten and I used to coach him in t-ball with my son. We learned just yesterday that they have determined the cause of death to be myocarditis, which is an inflammation of the heart muscle usually caused by a virus. Upon looking up info about it, I was stunned to learn that it is the cause of up to 20% of sudden deaths among young adults.

It is certainly possible that something like this, an aneurysm, or an embolism could have caused the boy in this case to suffer cardiac arrest.
38 posted on 03/10/2006 9:22:40 PM PST by drjimmy
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To: Born Conservative

ping


39 posted on 03/10/2006 9:23:12 PM PST by kenth (Beb lo que?)
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To: SerpentDove
Hi SerpentDove-

This is why modern rescue techniques involve direct instruction. For example, if you're providing bandage compression to somebody with a serious arterial wound to the arm, you wouldn't say, "Someone get help!"

The newer technique is to direct a specific person to accomplish a task. "You, in the blue shirt with the yellow tie and briefcase. Call 9-1-1 and tell them we need an ambulance and a police officer at this location immediately." People respond better and faster using that methodology.

~ Blue Jays ~

40 posted on 03/10/2006 9:25:31 PM PST by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: Samwise

Talking to my husband, a few conclusions;
1. The teacher is in big trouble.
2. Waiting for lawsuit - against the teacher and the schools. Can the teacher be brought on any criminal negligence charges?
3. Does the school have JROTC? Any cadet could have performed the Heimlich maneuver.
So unneccessary. Prayers for the family...


41 posted on 03/10/2006 9:26:49 PM PST by ArmyTeach (Get a spine!)
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To: Blue Jays

That is very interesting! And it makes perfect sense.


42 posted on 03/10/2006 9:28:20 PM PST by SerpentDove (The internet is big. "Oprah" big.)
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To: drjimmy

That is so sad, too. I'm so sorry.


43 posted on 03/10/2006 9:35:27 PM PST by Samwise (All that is needed for evil to triumph is that good men do nothing.)
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To: Samwise

For choking cases, you have 3-5 minutes to save the person. 911 calls are too late anyway, unless the EMTs are located right across the street. The real question is how on earth no one among the teachers and students knew how to do the Heimlich.... heck, plenty of people have saved a life without any training, just by trying to imitate what they'd seen in the movies. How on earth did everyone just twiddle their thumbs until the kid was dead?


44 posted on 03/10/2006 9:35:34 PM PST by Enchante (Democrats: "We are ALL broken and worn out, our party & ideas, what else is new?")
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To: Enchante
Hi Enchante-

Yup, it's the "Rule of 3" that applies here in terms of survival:

~ Blue Jays ~

45 posted on 03/10/2006 9:44:04 PM PST by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: TXnMA
I thought Heimlich and CPR posters were required to be posted in all facilities that provide food.

Wanna bet that government run facilities are exempt from the rule?

46 posted on 03/10/2006 10:12:42 PM PST by null and void (I nominate Sept 11th: "National Moderate Muslim Day of Tacit Approval". - Mr. Rational, paraphrased)
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To: Samwise

Teachers are suppose to be trained in basic CPR-D


47 posted on 03/10/2006 10:14:33 PM PST by Porterville (Sure are a lot of these few Muslim Extremist Fanatics)
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To: Socratic
"...students say teachers stopped their calls to 911.... Multiple 911 calls went out from Martinsville High School."

Let's get beyond emotionalism and seek the truth of the matter.

The teacher failed in his/her mission to stop all cell phone use?

48 posted on 03/10/2006 10:15:08 PM PST by null and void (I nominate Sept 11th: "National Moderate Muslim Day of Tacit Approval". - Mr. Rational, paraphrased)
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To: ArmyTeach
1. The teacher is in big trouble.

Not if they have tenure.

49 posted on 03/10/2006 10:17:58 PM PST by null and void (I nominate Sept 11th: "National Moderate Muslim Day of Tacit Approval". - Mr. Rational, paraphrased)
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To: Samwise

prayers


50 posted on 03/10/2006 10:19:54 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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