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What Now? The Lessons of Katrina. PM debunks the Katrina Myths
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| March 2006
| Camas Davis, Nicole Davis, Christian DeBenedetti, Brad Reagan, Kristin Roth
Posted on 03/11/2006 7:37:03 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez
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To: Luis Gonzalez
The only thing I take issue with is the estimation of wind strength.
I've been through many a hurricane without evacuating, including Betsy and Georges. Betsy- with winds at 150mph in New Orleans( forget what they say now, I remember!) did not leave the structural damage I've seen from Katrina.
I've sat on my carport in 100mph winds. 125mph winds( barely hurricane strength winds in the city, this claims )do NOT do the structural damage I've seen. Entire brick facades of buildings peeled off, houses blown down, huge metal billboards twisted and bent to the ground, were evident as far west as Kenner.
We're hearing now that they've upped Katrina to Cat 4 or 5 at landfall. Don't know if that's true or not, but I can promise you that winds were NOT ' barely hurricane strength' in New Orleans. If they were, The Thing must have had hundreds of tornados in it.
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posted on
03/11/2006 11:08:11 AM PST
by
ClearBlueSky
(Whenever someone says it's not about Islam-it's about Islam. Jesus loves you, Allah wants you dead!)
To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
Be Ever Vigilant!
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posted on
03/11/2006 11:08:37 AM PST
by
blackie
(Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
To: Luis Gonzalez
This is a terrific post. I may even purchase the magazine in order to read this stuff the old fashioned way.
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posted on
03/11/2006 11:13:26 AM PST
by
Radix
(Stop domestic violence. Beat abroad.)
To: Luis Gonzalez
An article as informative as this should be posted more than once. :o) Thanks. Guess I missed the other threads.
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posted on
03/11/2006 11:33:57 AM PST
by
daybreakcoming
(If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher. A. Lincoln)
To: Howlin
The season is right on top of us again. It should be a bad stretch since the winter was so mild (except where I am in the South) and the water is so warm. I can hardly wait!
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posted on
03/11/2006 11:40:10 AM PST
by
Coldwater Creek
("Over there, over there, We won't be back 'til it's over Over there.")
To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
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posted on
03/11/2006 11:55:21 AM PST
by
Gucho
To: daybreakcoming; Luis Gonzalez; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
I missed it before too. MOST informative. Thanks, all!
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posted on
03/11/2006 12:02:38 PM PST
by
ohioWfan
(PROUD Mom of an Iraq War VET! THANKS, son!!!!)
To: Luis Gonzalez
Yes, it should be shouted from the rooftops.
Also note I heard an FBI spokesman on NBC News yesterday report FBI has evidence of criminal conduct by levee administration with contracts and nepotism.
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posted on
03/11/2006 12:04:21 PM PST
by
freema
(Proud Marine FRiend, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
click the pic to watch the video
Tuesday, Aug. 30, 2005
There was no delay in getting help to New Orleans
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posted on
03/11/2006 12:04:46 PM PST
by
DocRock
To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
Thanks!! Sending this to a coastal county government.
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posted on
03/11/2006 12:08:15 PM PST
by
freema
(Proud Marine FRiend, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
To: ohioWfan
This thread is being visited by all the finest people!
Nice to see you my friend.
How's that hero if yours doing these days?
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posted on
03/11/2006 12:11:04 PM PST
by
Luis Gonzalez
(Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
To: Luis Gonzalez
This is not what is going to make it into the history books my students read!
McVey
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posted on
03/11/2006 12:47:04 PM PST
by
mcvey
To: Luis Gonzalez
He's doing very well, thanks, Luis. Did you know that he got married last year? And that he's a student in college, and still in the Reserves?
He's working on his E6, and still enjoying the military very much, and developing his leadership skills.
If you want to know how fast time has gone, it's been exactly three years since he left for Iraq. THREE!
I'll never forget your posts to me when I wrote about his basic training, Luis. They were some of the kindest, dearest words anyone has said in my five years on this board.........and I'll never forget them.........or you.
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posted on
03/11/2006 12:59:55 PM PST
by
ohioWfan
(PROUD Mom of an Iraq War VET! THANKS, son!!!!)
To: Sally'sConcerns
I lived in Houston between 93 and 99. Must have been in two or three good floods from rain. One time, they were doing part of the beltway 8 construction (I believe -I might be mistaken, it's been awhile) that constricted water in Clear Creek and a bunch of people got seriously flooded. Water was starting to get into my garage and was inches from my front door when the rain stopped.
I wasn't in the 100 year flood plain, but my subdivision was abutted by a newer subdivision which was graded higher, and water from storms would sometimes cause street flooding in the older areas (this is in Pearland).
I've been in several floods in both Houston and New Orleans, and every one of them was caused by rainstorms, not hurricanes.
The problem is in flood prone areas. Some areas shouldn't be built in.
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posted on
03/11/2006 1:25:01 PM PST
by
Knitting A Conundrum
(Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
To: Howlin
Thanks for the ping Howlin, ready for hurricane season.
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posted on
03/11/2006 1:34:29 PM PST
by
DAVEY CROCKETT
(Lk21:9 When you hear of wars and disturbances, do not be terrified; for these things must take place)
To: Luis Gonzalez; OneLoyalAmerican
"Were you a part of that?"
No, I was in Oregon
However FReeper OneLoyalAmerican was
He is a Master Chief in the Coast Guard
To: Sally'sConcerns
I don't know what percentage it is in Texas but I'm going to go out on a limb here and state I don't believe the majority of the rebuilding which gets done there is due to hurricane activity.
Based upon the graph that is cited and the explanation given of it being "(A repetitive-loss property is one with multiple insured losses due to floods within a 10-year period.)" then I think your assumption is accurate. Texas hasn't been hit by that many hurricanes over any 10-yr span that would accumulate that type dollars. It is the flooding that occurs around densly populated areas cause by torrential rains that occur at times here. It also isn't all along the coast but can reach inland along the major rivers as they flood from time to time.
Example is Allison nothing more than a suped up tropical storm that dumped something approaching 40 inches of rain in the Houston area. Much of this flooding occurs in areas well above sea level but gets rising water when the rivers and drainage systems can't handle the incoming water.
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posted on
03/11/2006 2:01:51 PM PST
by
deport
To: Luis Gonzalez; abb; alnick; AzaleaCity5691; bayourant; BerniesFriend; Bitsy; bigeasy_70118; ...
*Louisiana Ping List
If you would like on or off the Louisiana Ping list please FReepmail me and your name will be added or taken off of the list.
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posted on
03/11/2006 3:02:06 PM PST
by
CajunConservative
(Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Jindal.)
To: Kenny Bunk
To bad more of the leg-warmer-wearing left-wing MSM pansies don't read it!To bad more of the leg-warmer-wearing left-wing MSM bedwetting blame the feds first so callled 'freeper' pansies don't read it!
Yes, I feel vidicated for defending Brown, FEMA, Bush, and the federal response in the days immediately following Katrina.
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posted on
03/11/2006 3:12:44 PM PST
by
Eagle Eye
(There ought to be a law against excess legislation.)
To: Luis Gonzalez
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