Posted on 03/11/2006 12:06:13 PM PST by Exton1
The Meaning of "Tolerance"
by Jennifer King
"The Heretical Housewife"
Last night, a guest on the Fox News show Hannity and Colmes demonstrated - once again - what the Left really means when they advocate "tolerance".
The woman, a lesbian spokesman/person for one of the gay groups, slammed the Boy Scouts - again - for their alleged "intolerance" towards gays. Because the Boy Scouts prudently want to keep openly homosexual Scout leaders away from young boys, they are judged "intolerant". This same woman also categorically denied the right of religious people to their belief that homosexual behavior is a sin. Bible believing people are therefore intrinsically "intolerant", and one senses that she would eagerly embrace a movement which muzzled or banished them. So much for free speech on behalf of the Left.
As we have seen in other areas, the Tolerant Left is only tolerant when it comes to us being tolerant. We must be tolerant when they use our taxpayer monies to fund works we find blasphemous and obscene. We should be open-minded when they want to preach the joys of sex to our kindergartners. We should meekly comply when our underage daughters are given contraceptives and/or abortions without our knowledge or consent.
The Left, however, suffer no such constraints upon themselves. When faced with a discordant issue, the Tolerant Left becomes the epitome of the intolerant - all excused because they are on the "correct" side of the argument. Instead of rational debate, the "Litany of the Left" is employed. We, because of our political views, must be labeled as "racist, sexist, bigoted, homophobic" and ridiculed as hopelessly outdated. Rational discourse becomes impossible in the face of such irrationality - which, of course, is the desired outcome.
The discussion of homosexuality should revolve around the issue of personal behavior rather than personal predilection. Those on the right, including religious Jews, Christians and Muslims - believe that their religion proscribes against homosexuality. In their religious viewpoint Man is a sinful creature, drawn to sin by his very nature. Sin is to be resisted. There are many activities which one might wish to engage in, but one is to resist the temptation - whatever its form.
The homosexual activists are therefore disingenuous. They claim to be looking solely for inclusion, but they pursue a radical agenda which insists that society not only accept but enthusiastically support every activity of theirs regardless of personal or religious belief. Anything less makes us "bigots and homophobes". Instead of debate, the activists invoke the Litany, thereby avoiding many potentially unsettling arguments.
For example, it is well documented that an active homosexual lifestyle can lead to early death in young men - with a median lifespan of 70+ years being reduced to approximately age 40. Yet, encouraging our sons not to embrace a lifestyle which can cut their lifetimes literally in half is denounced as "bigoted". Likewise, support groups of ex-gays who have renounced the homosexual lifestyle for a heterosexual one are muzzled and their testimony denounced. They, too, are "bigots" and "homophobes". What better example of the double standard is shown in the duel treatment of the murders of Matthew Sheppard - a homosexual killed by "homophobes", and that of Jesse Dirkheiser - a boy killed by admitted homosexuals. The murder of Matthew Sheppard was splashed across the nation’s papers for weeks, while the repeated rape/strangulation/murder of 10 year old Jesse Dirkheiser by two NAMBLA members was almost completely ignored.
The Boy Scouts are publicly chastised while several inconvenient facts are swept under the rug. Many male homosexuals have admitted that they were molested by older homosexuals while still children, and it is a given fact that homosexual pedophiles tend to take jobs where the have proximity to young boys. The Scouts are correct in denying access to youngsters to openly homosexual potential Scout masters. By doing so, they are saving kids from potential molestation and a conceivable lifetime of psychological and physical torment.
It would be nice to see some "tolerance" for this rational position expressed by our oh so tolerant brethren on the Left. ***
© 2001 Jennifer King
COPYRIGHT © 2001 BY THE AMERICAN PARTISAN. All writers retain rights to their work.
One tolerates a tooth ache. One tolerates a screaming baby in the store. These perverts don't want "tolerance" they want acceptance and they will get it if they have to have the courts force it.
I don't doubt the woman was irritating and wrong but this response article would have been a lot stronger with actual quotes and not fudging on the facts. I don't believe you find a study showing that homosexuals die 30 years early on average.
two that I knew did:
1) Aids at the age of 40 (bathouses in S.F.)
2) Suicide at 48 (aging chickenhawk - no more young lovers)
knowing them as friends is a waste - they're not in it for the long haul.
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"The Scouts are correct in denying access to youngsters to openly homosexual potential Scout masters."
The author should have left out the word "openly".
(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")
See:
Teachers Learning to Teach Tolerance of Homosexuals [Free Republic]
| Statistically, those who practice HOMOSEXUAL activities have A significantly shorter lifespan those others who do not participate in these activities. ... www.freerepublic.com/forum/a39b691525057.htm - 51k - Supplemental Result - |
Radical Homosexuals Publish Guide Encouraging Homosexuality in the ...
| Likewise, studies have found that the homosexual lifestyle is associated with a 40% shorter lifespan, compulsive behavior, violence, and increased risk for ... www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/984258/posts - 57k - |
Things The Media Doesn't Want You To Know
| Homosexual males have a shorter lifespan than smokers (on average). The founder of Planned Parenthood believed that abortions were needed to reduce the ... www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/817528/posts - 38k - |
That is so on the money!
"a lesbian spokesman"
Sometimes the smallest things speak the largest truths.
Exactly. In other words, "tolerance for me, but not for thee".
Good links and I'm glad you posted them but it didn't point to a study that I can scrutinize.
Disclaimer: I'm a physicist by education and i tend to think in those terms - "what was the study" "what was the sample" "what was the definition of homosexual lifestyle"
That's what a fast search grabbed- let me call an expert...
I'm not saying that they're wrong, just that it's tough to use that in an argument if there are no concrete links to verifiable data. It's easy to snipe at a stat with nothing to back it up. We do it all the time when some figure seems to be pulled out of the air to support one of the left's pet causes - "100,000 homeless people die on the streets of America each year!" "95% of minorities face on-the-job discrimination!", so it's good to have a solid defense for our facts.
Thanks.
"That's what a fast search grabbed- let me call an expert..."
thanks..and i would certainly acknowledge that risk factors - unprotected sex, crystal meth use etc absolutely lower life expectancy.
Started circa 1960, myself. SWL. HiFi... mono!
Thanks for the ping. (One for the list, guys!)
Funny thing is that people who want to deny that the "gay" life is unnatural, unhealthy, and immoral often want to dispute or deny statistics etc we present, but never - and I mean NEVER - present any arguments that support their position.
Not once. Ever.
Fight the good fight! God bless.
FReegards.
Despite all the hi-tech stuff I've worked on over the years I still have the most fun with tube gear. I'm restoring a nice Hallicrafters SX-130 right now. Real radios glow in the dark! <g>
As a Cub Scout Leader, I had to take "Youth Protection Traning". Just a series of very common sense rules for adult interaction with youth. Check this out:
http://www.scouting.org/pubs/gss/gss01.html
Knowing that this is required training helps me relax and not worry about my boy and his scouting experience.
I'm a female. The few gay men I've known, one who died in his mid 40's from AIDS.
I know another who has had AIDS since his late 20's.
I don't know his current condition.
So, I assume that gays pay significantly higher life and health insurance premiums, so we don't have to subsidize their lifestyle choice. (I wish).
Tolerance is simply hating God's way.
They are a tooth ache, but really - how long does anyone tolerate a tooth ache before doing something about it?
Amen to that- one of the first AM radios I got working back then was a 1935 RCA Mantola- just the chassis. Had gridcaps, and some of the (?)- can't recall the tube type- glowed blue when I first got it operating. Gassy tubes, but pretty.
You know, the Boy Scouts are only treating gays the same as our culture treats straights in this: you think church groups send 12 year old girls out camping with nothing but middle aged men? Hell no. And they can be the most upstanding members of our community, but they are men and we aren't sending them out into the woods with our girls. We send women chaperones. And that's how it is. Like it or lump it.
LOL... should just call her the "spokeslesbian", eh?
There's a reason the Boy Scouts do not have the problems that, say, the Catholic church has right now. It's called "prudence."
Acts of intolerance will always return greater social good and harmony than tolerance. Practicing tolerance alone will split any community of people into intolerant segements, making calls of tolerance a fools game.
Response: Tolerance today, at least among Europeans, means the inability to say Yes or No. The inability to take a stand. This is especially true with regard to those that constituted the outcast segment of our pre-1960 civilization.
I think this is what he was looking for...I have more.
Thanks for that
"CONCLUSION: In a major Canadian centre, life expectancy at age 20 years for gay and bisexual men is 8 to 20 years less than for all men"
The Catholics have also taken serious proactive steps now - most of the homosexual predation being reported now took place a long time ago.
This was the first one I knew about. I think it is significant.
This part was particularly scary to me:
Under even the most liberal assumptions, gay and bisexual men in this urban centre are now experiencing a life expectancy similar to that experienced by all men in Canada in the year 1871.
Thank you.
Maybe put all the links together and freepmail to DBeers and DirtyHarryY2K (and me) since they always can use facts.
Appreciate the link- thank you.
Don't take my remarks as a slur on the Catholic Church, for which I have a lot of respect. However, the pedophiles of the past are still being protected by the clergy of the present. There is one in a high place at the Vatican, and Cardinal Mahoney of L.A. has defied the law to withhold information about criminals he passed from parish to parish with impunity, uneashing them on unsuspecting parishoners. But for the most part, you are right. They are trying to clean up their act.
2. Mahoney was one of three worst offenders who defied the law and the Vatican as well. JPII successfully got rid of the other two, Mahoney is apparently the most deeply entrenched. Hopefully BXVI will be able to pry him out as well.
I do NOT believe that the Vatican is still protecting offenders, but some of them have a lot of power and influence and will be hard to shake loose. Can you identify the guy at the Vatican? There's been a lot of buzz lately about BXVI reorganizing things and moving people around, and I'd be curious to know if the anonymous cleric is one of the people being reorganized. The easiest way to get rid of powerful people is to lateral them into something that looks like a promotion but gets them out of their power base. Didn't this recently happen to an American bishop? Not Levada, but somebody who was given a post at a church in Rome.
The Church moves on something like geologic time, unfortunately for those who would like the housecleaning to be instantaneous.
The guy I'm referring to is very well known. He had a part at Pope John Paul II's funeral. I think he came from Boston and got shuffled over there. He is definitely an American. I'm sure you'll know who it is, as my memory fails me at the moment.
Law.
Yes, that's it. Thanks.
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