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Posted on 03/11/2006 12:09:19 PM PST by jmc1969
Friends of U.S. peace activist Tom Fox, who was kidnapped and killed in Iraq, cited his stance against retribution on Saturday and called for the remembrance of all victims of violence around the world.
Members of the Langley Hill Friends Meeting, a peace group in northern Virginia to which Fox belonged, read a statement he co-wrote in October 2004 in which he shunned violence, even to rescue him should he ever be kidnapped.
"We reject violence to punish anyone who harms us," said Doug Smith, quoting Fox, in a statement read to reporters at the group's headquarters in McLean, Virginia.
"We forgive those who consider us their enemies," Fox's statement continued
(Excerpt) Read more at metronews.ca ...
acck...gag....urp...
Bullets cost money. Wouldn't waste the cost of one to avenge someone like Fox. May one presume his family and friends will decline the flag for his casket, and burial at a Veterans' Cemetery [I read he was a 20 yr. veteran of the USMC]?
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"Friends of murdered US hostage urge no retribution"
He is not the one we are gonna retaliate for.
civilians who go to war zones and terror-nests should be required to sign a binding release form, stipulating that they should be considered legally dead if ever kidnapped.
And that,among other reasons,is why the 9th Century knucledraggers that you are so ardently supporting and assisting laugh at you behind your backs.
I wonder if he still felt that way while he was being tortured.
I agree. Rather, we need to determine why they hate us and then change.
Okay.
Well, screw them...
They can kill the sonsuvbitches in MY name...
Semper Fi
Otherwise....Baa, baa, baabaa, baa.....
Can you imagine what it would be like to live inside the distorted brain of one of these so-called peace activists even if only for a twenty-four hour period? They somehow feel there is honor in feeling the dull blade slicing through their necks in the moments of their deaths. Unbelievable.
~ Blue Jays ~
"Go up to a peace activist. Let him explain to you about how responding to violence is wrong, and peace is the best policy. While he is explaining his belief, punch him in the face. Hard. When he gets up he will be angry and ready to fight. Calmly and rationally explain to him that responding to violence in kind is always wrong and peace is the best answer. After he settles down he will agree with you. He will feel very good about himself that he did not stoop to your level. Get him to further explain his ideas about non violence. As soon as he starts, hit him again. Harder. Repeat the process until he realizes that you cannot get peace from people who don't want to give it to you."
An excellent idea! Allahu fubar!
Wretchard over at Belmont had an interesting commentary, the concluding sentences here:
“The question Tom Fox should have posed is ‘how do you stand firm against a car-bomber headed straight for a schoolbus?’ And if you say, ‘shoot to save the children’ ask yourself if it ever [is] justified to be glad that God had sent someone else to shoot the bomber and go hell in your stead. Tom Fox stood for his beliefs to the bitter end. And now the men who killed him are out there, waiting to kill again.”
http://fallbackbelmont.blogspot.com/2006/03/crushed-and-broken-on-virgin-soul.html
Worth the read.
As a committed Christian I have discussed this issue with others of a pacifist bent. For me the clincher is Luke 3:14. The soldier is to be content with his wages.
GREAT! Forgive them... and then KILL them before they SLAUGHTER AND TORTURE anymore!
Yeah, and (before going to Iraq) he probably looked like Willie Nelson.
Well, this is how the terrorists showed their appreciation for the peace activists' terrorist protection program.
Christian Peacemaker Teams
http://www.cpt.org/
Iraq: Adopt-a-Detainee Campaign
IRAQ: CPT announces closure of Adopt-a-Detainee campaign
[21 September 2005]
After a year and a half of coordinated advocacy for Iraqis detained by U.S. and other occupying forces, Christian Peacemaker Teams (CPT) is ending its Adopt-a-Detainee Letter-Writing Campaign. CPT's Iraq project will, however, continue to monitor the situation of Iraqis captured by the Multinational Force in Iraq (MNF) and by the new Iraqi Forces.
The Adopt-a-Detainee Letter-Writing Campaign, beginning in March 2004, matched individual detainees with congregations, mosques, synagogues, and peace groups in North America and around the world. These groups wrote letters to U.S., Iraqi and other relevant officials on the detainees' behalf. The campaign grew out of CPT's investigation of and reporting on abuses within the U.S.-run detention system in Iraq during the fall of 2003. The Adopt-a-Detainee Letter-Writing Campaign included a total of twenty-seven detainees, nine of whom U.S. officials released during the campaign, ten of whom were still detained at last word, and seven of whom U.S. officials never confirmed as detained (i.e., the "disappeared.")
During the campaign, at least 1,000 people and groups participated from Canada, France, Germany, India, Israel, Nigeria, the Palestinian Territories, Sweden, Switzerland, and the United States. CPT expresses its sincere gratitude to all of those who participated in the campaign in various ways.
Changes in administrations during the past two years--from the U.S.-led Coalition Provisional Authority, to the Interim Iraqi Government, to the current Transitional Iraqi Government--forced CPT to adapt its approach several times. While supportive of improvements made within the detention system in Iraq since the fall of 2003, CPT condemned the U.S. military's ongoing refusal to uphold basic human rights standards for the thousands of Iraqi detainees still in their custody.
Since the transfer of sovereignty to the Iraqis in June 2004, CPT has experienced U.S. officials in Iraq becoming increasingly unresponsive to appeals for reform, both from team members on location in Iraq and from letter-writers abroad.
Consequently, CPT members in Baghdad decided they needed to shift their immediate focus in order to continue toward their long-term goals of violence reduction and human rights for Iraqi detainees. While officially closing the Adopt-a-Detainee Letter-Writing Campaign, CPT in Iraq will continue to monitor the situation of Iraqi detainees and develop new strategies to reduce violence against the Iraqis still in detention.
Hopefully, the military will not put ANY of our men and women in harm's way to gain "retribution" for this idiot. The knucklehead had no business screwing around in Iraq. His dumbass actions caused him to suffer this fate and if anyone wants "retribution," I recommend that the morons he runs with go get if for him. It's cowardly "piecemakers" like this that give Christians a bad name.
Had these peace activists been around in WW-II I'm sure they would have made straight lines and sung kumbayas marching into Hitler's gas chambers. While I can possibly see that they would not want specific retribution, how can they justify tolerance for terrorists who would torture and cut the throats of innocent hostages and strap bombs to children? Peace of the grave isn't peace.
I'm wondering why we can't send PLANELOADS of them to 'reason with' these barbarians? Ya think after the 200th or so execution they'd understand that passivism isn't going to
work?
Remember the line from a Dirty Harry movie- the guy was going to kill again, because he LIKED it? When will they get that the death-cultists LIKE death and killing?
There are no words for suicidal stupidity like this. It's the prey trying to excuse, and forgive, the predator for eating them. All sense of natural human self-preservation is gone.
Lemming martyrs.
As far as I'm concerned, we should give all of these traitorous America-haters a (one-way) ticket to the social paradise of their choice: Iraq, Iran, Palestine, Cuba, North Korea, etc. In exchange, we will promise never to retaliate on their behalf if they are killed by their personal heroes.
And we should leave their murdered bodies in the countries of their choosing. It would be an insult to true Americans to desecrate the soil of our cemeteries with their remains.
We've lost so many good people in Iraq, I don't see why anyone in the world would care about this idiot.
Good riddance.
Well put.
"Doug Pritchard, co-director of Christian Peacemaker Teams in Toronto, said the humanitarian organization planned to maintain its presence in Iraq, at least until the fate of the other captives is known. The group has five workers in the country in addition to the remaining captives.
"We know the risks involved. It's very much a part of our training," Pritchard told a news conference late Friday."
Hm. I wonder if what he apparently went through was "part of his training". I think not.
These people are lunatics. They cannot see the fact that their co-worker was tortured, then shot. For what? Did they torture him to get information? No. They tortured him and shot him because they are the same kind of people who ran the Baathist torture chambers. They did it because they ENJOYED it.
I agree with this approach wholeheartedly.
Yes, Yes infidel We will discuss peace and love and understanding. Everything will be all puppies and rainbows. You just keep talking. I'm going to go get my scimitar. I'll be right back. Don't you go anywhere! Why do I need a scimitar you ask? Well, to cut the friendship cake, you silly infidel.
"Oh well,no matter-the Marines will make the murderers pay."
Don't put any money on that.
They still don't get it.
Has anything happened to the female journalist yet?
Forget her name ... Jill something.
So, I guess the teachings of "turn the other cheek" and "love your enemies" doesn't really work in the real world, does it? But we certainly can't blame these folks for not following the teachings of Christ literally, can we?
These folks might be surprised how many of them I would be willing to let Al Qaeda kill, completely without retribution. As a matter of principle, I don't think we should PAY Al Qaeda to kill them, regardless of how much it benefits us. But it would be hypocritical of me to call for"retribution."
Was anyone suggesting it? Reteibution is cheapened when exacted for the undeserving.
Just so ya'll know. If the ragheads take me hostage and whack me. Please for the love of God Call for Retribution !
I mean whats wrong with telling the perps "I forgive you and as soon as I send you up to see Jesus I'm sure he will to" blam.
Outstanding! Then we don't have to ask brave american soldiers to risk their lives trying to rescue the remaining 3 hostages.
We should spare no effort to make no effort.
They murdered an American and need to executed for that.
That's why he is dead. If Doug Smith had said "We'll kill 50 innocent muslims for each of our own", Fox would have walked away......but no!
"They murdered an American and need to executed for that."
I thought he was Canadian...............oh, oops your right. Just the group thats Canadian.
Quakers Canadians whatever all = idiot dhimmis
I'll just say if he went to spread the Gospels, he was following a commission set out for him. Perhaps one can look at it like an Marine attempting to accomplish his MO, perhaps now His Lord has told him, mission acccomplished, well done my faithfull servant.
Does that mean Canada will wake up and realize there is an enemy to fight, which is radical Islam?
For sure..
Not even Jack Bauer could handle that.
Any word from the "kidnapped" Jill Carrol? Or can't they figure out how best to play that scam out?
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