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Muslim Vote Tips the Balance in Netherlands (war memorial cross removed)
brusselsjournal ^ | Wed, 2006-03-08 15:59 | Paul Belien

Posted on 03/11/2006 3:14:32 PM PST by dennisw

Muslim Vote Tips the Balance in Netherlands

The effects of the immigrant vote will soon be visible. The Amsterdam borough of De Baarsjes has already decided to remove a white cross which serves as a memorial to the Second World War. The cross is situated not far from the place where a mosque is being built. According to the authorities “Muslims and Jews” take offense at the cross as a war memorial. “We told them that it is a Dutch tradition to refer to the dead with a cross. However, the cross is seen as a reference to Christianity. I can understand this,” the local (Christian-Democrat) councillor, Jan Voetberg, said.

Yesterday’s municipal elections in the Netherlands were won by the Left. The Labour Party (PvdA) gained more than 500 town hall seats, an increase of 50 per cent compared with 2002, while the far-left Socialist Party (SP) doubled its number of seats. The Christian-Democrat CDA of Prime Minister Jan Peter Balkenende and his government coalition partner, the free-market Liberal VVD, suffered heavy losses. Yesterday’s result does not bode well for the Right in next year’s general elections. If the result in 2007 is the same as yesterday’s the PvdA will gain 49 of the 150 parliamentary seats, while the CDA – currently the largest party – will lose 13 of its 44 seats. A government of Labour, the SP and the extreme-left Groen Links (Green Left) Party could replace the current center-right government, leaving the Netherlands with a radical-left coalition similar to that of Norway today.

Today the center-left newspaper De Volkskrant writes that the immigrant vote has tipped the balance in favour of the Left. This should not come as a surprise. All across Europe, immigrants tend to vote for the Left. The Left is perceived to be the welfare state’s Santa Claus. Most of the immigrants who came to Europe during the past decades were attracted by the generous welfare benefits which Western Europe lavishly bestows on the “underprivileged.” Today, owing to their demographic growth, the immigrant vote is increasing as more and more young immigrants reach voting age. In many countries the Left has begun to cater for the immigrants, aware that the immigrants guarantee their power.

According to the Institute for Migration and Ethnic Studies of the University of Amsterdam 80% of the non-indigenous electorate voted for Labour. This explains why cities such as Amsterdam, Rotterdam, Breda and Arnhem succumbed to the Left. 84% of the Turks voted for the PvdA; 81% of the Antillians/Surinamese did likewise. Of the Moroccans 78% voted Labour and 12% voted Green Left.

The center-right VVD, the party of famous Dutch policians such as Ayaan Hirsi Ali and Frits Bolkestein, received only 1% of the immigrant vote. The CDA got 3%, the SP 5% and Green Left 7%.

According to De Telegraaf, the largest paper in the country, immigrant voters have become a power block.



TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: atheism; christophobia; cross; demographics; dhimmitude; eurabia; islam; memorialcross; netherlands; purge; tolerantleft; warmemorial

1 posted on 03/11/2006 3:14:35 PM PST by dennisw
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Submitted by A New Believer on Fri, 2006-03-10 17:10.

"The Amsterdam borough of De Baarsjes has already decided to remove a white cross which serves as a memorial to the Second World War. The cross is situated not far from the place where a mosque is being built. According to the authorities “Muslims and Jews” take offense at the cross as a war memorial. “We told them that it is a Dutch tradition to refer to the dead with a cross."
Excuse me, a question for the Nederlanders here!  Did any of those"muslims" that object to that cross..die there in WWII?  I will concede to the "jews" that were there.  Americans, Nederlanders of Christian and Jewish ancestry perished during World War II.  And why has suddenly the "Jewish" population become upset about it?  Why not add a "Star ofd David " to the memorial, if that is their objection.  But to take it down because a raggle taggle group of  ragheads and miscreants are having a mosque built nearby.  When they spill their blood for the Nederlands, as blood was spilt during World War II, I might say perhaps!Though to remove such a thing is a travesty; an injustice to the men, women and children who died during the Second World War!  Next they will wish to rewrite the the history of  Europe as well..eh?  This cannot be  allowed to happen.  The honourable dead must kowtow to the ignoble living hordes of terrorist breeding grounds.  Please tell me it will not  happen , not in the beloved land of the "Silver Skates"!


2 posted on 03/11/2006 3:16:31 PM PST by dennisw (-Muslim's biggest enemy is the founder of Islam, Muhammad. Muslims are victims of this evil conman-)
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To: dennisw

Time to bring our war dead home, as this kind of crap will be happening all over europe soon.


3 posted on 03/11/2006 3:20:34 PM PST by LibWhacker
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To: dennisw

Weren't the Muslims on the other side of the war?


4 posted on 03/11/2006 3:20:55 PM PST by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: dennisw

Desecrating graves and ancient monuments is disgusting behavior that should be punishable by death.


5 posted on 03/11/2006 3:20:55 PM PST by muawiyah (-)
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To: dennisw

Most Muslim blood spilled in WWII was for the Axis.


6 posted on 03/11/2006 3:21:28 PM PST by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: dennisw
What next? Cemeteries with the graves of Allied soldiers.
7 posted on 03/11/2006 3:21:36 PM PST by K-oneTexas (I'm not a judge and there ain't enough of me to be a jury. (Zell Miller, A National Party No More))
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To: dennisw
Muslim Vote Tips the Balance in Netherlands (war memorial cross removed)

YUCK! What a nightmare.

8 posted on 03/11/2006 3:21:54 PM PST by Martina
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To: dennisw

Next stop for Holland- Dhimmitude! They're lost.


9 posted on 03/11/2006 3:22:54 PM PST by Rockitz (After all these years, it's still rocket science.)
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To: dennisw

"AMERICA" TAKE A GOOD LOOK AND KNOW THAT IT'S ON IT'S WAY HERE IF THE SOCIALISTS HAVE THEIR WAY WITH ALL THE "ILLEGALS" AMNESTY GIVES THEM THE VOTE. AND THEY WILL DAMN SURE VOTE FOR WHOEVER PROMISES THEM THE BEST WELFARE STATE.


10 posted on 03/11/2006 3:24:17 PM PST by snowman1
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To: dennisw

"AMERICA" TAKE A GOOD LOOK AND KNOW THAT IT'S ON IT'S WAY HERE IF THE SOCIALISTS HAVE THEIR WAY WITH ALL THE "ILLEGALS" AMNESTY GIVES THEM THE VOTE. AND THEY WILL DAMN SURE VOTE FOR WHOEVER PROMISES THEM THE BEST WELFARE STATE.


11 posted on 03/11/2006 3:26:17 PM PST by snowman1
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To: ncountylee
The Albanian SS did a job on the Croats and Serbs didn't they.

More recent efforts to fight back against that crowd earned the protagonists charges of commiting war crimes.

12 posted on 03/11/2006 3:27:10 PM PST by muawiyah (-)
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To: dennisw

When you can't honor your war dead, it's time to sit down and seriously figure out which is more important to you. A bunch of muslim freeloaders or your country's culture and tradition. "Dirversity" and "multiculturalism" really does suck. They destroy national unity and identity. Anyone who believes differently isn't a very smart person.


13 posted on 03/11/2006 3:27:54 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (It's time to replace "In God We Trust" with "Are We There Yet?")
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To: dennisw
The Amsterdam borough of De Baarsjes has already decided to remove a white cross which serves as a memorial to the Second World War.

IMHO, should have had a Star of David already present. Add one and be done with it.

But if muslims are asking the non-muslim world to deny its history...aren't they really saying they are insulted by the existence non-muslims (which, of course, they are).

14 posted on 03/11/2006 3:28:36 PM PST by Dark Skies ("A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants." -- Churchill)
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To: All

the article says the crosses offend muslims and jews. I don't know where any jews are offended by crosses.....and aren't some markers stars of david, next holland will have to break those off too. OH BUT THE CRESCENT DOENST OFFEND ANYONE!!!!


15 posted on 03/11/2006 3:28:59 PM PST by Kewlhand`tek (Those that can't , Teach. Those that can't teach , Report)
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To: K-oneTexas
Overseas cemeteries with American war dead are considered part of US national territory.

There are international treaties covering this.

If the Dutch try to desecrate any crosses on American graves we are entitled to fry them with theremonuclear warheads (not that we would do that, but this little provincial legislature might well need to be reminded of the consequences of messing with the graveyards and memorials that belong to us).

16 posted on 03/11/2006 3:29:17 PM PST by muawiyah (-)
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To: muawiyah

This is no different than the Taliban blwoing up those ancient Buddhists statues. Removing the symbols of our culture and history because someone is offended. Disgusting and disheartening.


17 posted on 03/11/2006 3:29:33 PM PST by ShandaLear (Announcing you plans is a good way to hear God laugh. Al Swearengen, 1877—Deadwood)
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To: dennisw
Sigh. And here we've been hearing about how the Dutch have grown serious about the radical Islamists in their midst, and how they're thinking hard about the future, and how they are awakening to the difficulties ahead, and taking steps to prevent a future of dhimmitude.

Guess not.

18 posted on 03/11/2006 3:30:16 PM PST by TimSkalaBim
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To: TimSkalaBim
This was just the Amsterdam borough of De Baarsjes. Wonder if it's surrounded by dykes, and can it be flooded without hurting other boroughs.

See if this bunch of Moslems can swim!

19 posted on 03/11/2006 3:31:57 PM PST by muawiyah (-)
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To: snowman1
Yes, but the Liberals believe that once hooked to welfare, demoralization/drink/drugs/crime and a sort of atheism follows. Then high illigetimacy rates, and then the voters are grateful slaves forever, and vote like the English working class and many black Americans.

However, the playbook isn't working with muslims. They do not have high illigetimacy rates, they don't become secular, and they are NOT GRATEFUL.

A little more time and they will eat the damn liberals alive. But the left still thinks their playbook will work.
20 posted on 03/11/2006 3:32:58 PM PST by squarebarb
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To: TimSkalaBim

next thing you know, the dutch will have have to quit passing drugs out and maybe a little sharia law will straighten them out.


21 posted on 03/11/2006 3:33:13 PM PST by Kewlhand`tek (Those that can't , Teach. Those that can't teach , Report)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Language Culture Boarders!


22 posted on 03/11/2006 3:33:35 PM PST by madconserv (Proud to be FReepin--Support Our Troops)
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To: Kewlhand`tek

This will probably put an end to homosexual marriage, as well.


23 posted on 03/11/2006 3:35:12 PM PST by rottndog (WOOF!!!!)
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To: Kewlhand`tek
"next thing you know, the dutch will have have to quit passing drugs out and maybe a little sharia law will straighten them out."

If nothing else, it will certainly sober them up - and fast (if there's any sanity and sense left in the Dutch).

24 posted on 03/11/2006 3:35:52 PM PST by the anti-liberal (Hey, Al Qaeda: Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent)
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To: dennisw

I wish our Congress critters and our President would open their eyes so they could see that this can and will happen to the US if they keep letting so many Muslims and illegals from south of the border, into OUR country. Those people, obviously, have never heard of birth control. :o)


25 posted on 03/11/2006 3:38:09 PM PST by NRA2BFree
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To: LibWhacker
Time to bring our war dead home....

Not from my position. That's retreat and surrender. How about we gear up to defend our dead, wherever they may be. That's called Honor.

Our forefathers had it. We better live it.

26 posted on 03/11/2006 3:39:07 PM PST by 3_if_by_Treason (Life is a series of lessons: Sometimes you're the student, and sometimes you're the teacher.)
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To: dennisw

Which Jews take offense to the memorial?
I doubt Jewish Jews.
more likely Dutch versions of what Woody Allen referred to as "left wing communist jewish homosexual pornographers" who only cite their Jewishness when expedient.


27 posted on 03/11/2006 3:40:00 PM PST by avile
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To: dennisw

religion of peace ping.


28 posted on 03/11/2006 3:42:04 PM PST by racing fan
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To: TimSkalaBim

Nope, this is a real step backward, thanks to the collusion of the psychopathic leftists.


29 posted on 03/11/2006 3:43:33 PM PST by hinckley buzzard (Morgan is mad today...madder than yesterday...)
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To: LibWhacker

It IS time to bring our war dead home. Only problem is this is exactly where we are also headed. Offend the Christians but by all means do not offend the Islamists or the Jews.


30 posted on 03/11/2006 3:43:43 PM PST by Spirited
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To: Spirited
It's the Islamists who were offended. They only tossed Jews into that to make it seem like there was more than just Muslims being offended

Like that group in France that was serving free pork soup to the poor -- the critics claimed that Muslims and Jews were both offended, but I hardly think there are that many French Jews going to soup kitchens, and what few there are would be handled by their own synagogue

31 posted on 03/11/2006 4:04:43 PM PST by SauronOfMordor (A planned society is most appealing to those with the hubris to think they will be the planners)
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To: dennisw
It is worse than we think...

Cross at heart of San Diego memorial controversy facing vote

click here to view

Does anyone know the final resolution of this madness?

32 posted on 03/11/2006 4:13:13 PM PST by Boston Blackie
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To: dennisw

I think the Dutch will make excellent Dhimmis.


33 posted on 03/11/2006 4:16:06 PM PST by FormerLib (Kosova: "land stolen from Serbs and given to terrorist killers in a futile attempt to appease them.")
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To: dennisw

Hey Dutch, I wonder how your daughters will look in burkas. There goes your country.


34 posted on 03/11/2006 4:40:18 PM PST by Mount Athos
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To: dennisw

It's now officially over for the Netherlands. They put up a bit of a fight at the end, but they are finished. They've nurtured a viper in their breast and they are all as good as dead. At least the non-Muslim ones. What a freaking disgrace.


35 posted on 03/11/2006 4:56:03 PM PST by jocon307 (The Silent Majority - silent no longer)
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To: coconutt2000
Good evening.
"Weren't the Muslims on the other side of the war?"

There were Dutch volunteers in the Waffen SS.

Michael Frazier
36 posted on 03/11/2006 5:02:29 PM PST by brazzaville (no surrender no retreat, well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: dennisw
“Muslims and Jews” take offense at the cross as a war memorial

What horse shit. Just like "Muslims and Jews" took offense to the French pork-soup kitchens, right? Utter nonsense. The diaperheads are lumping non-complaining "Jews" in with themselves to get their way. The Dutch Jews should speak out and tell the public that the filty Muslim animals do not speak for them in defiling the menory of the brave Dutch war dead.

37 posted on 03/11/2006 5:13:37 PM PST by montag813
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To: dennisw
The Christian-Democrat CDA of Prime Minister Jan Peter Balkenende and his government coalition partner, the free-market Liberal VVD, suffered heavy losses. Yesterday’s result does not bode well for the Right

Looks like the Muslim vermin succeeded in their murder of Pim Fortuyn. They took the air out of the tires of the Right, just as they did to Zionists by murdering Meir Kahane and his son Binyamin (and family). After the murder of Fortuyn and Van Gogh the Dutch had a rare opportunity to eviserate Islam from their nation. To take the wrecking ball to every mosque and school of hate. To deport every single non-citizen Muslim in their midst en masse. To so permeate sheer terror into the hearts of the remaining Muslims that they would never so much as jaywalk again.

But they blew it. Fortuyn, Van Gogh. It is all forgotten. And now the stupid Dutch and returning to power the very leftist scum who drowned their nation in Muslim maggots in the first place. How pathetic.

38 posted on 03/11/2006 5:19:49 PM PST by montag813
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To: montag813

Disgusting indeed how the Jews are dragged into this by the leftist Dutch borough council. They had no objection to the war memorial cross. The Muzz building their damn mosque across the street did

Same as the Jews of France could care less if pork soup is doled out to the French poor. It's the Muzzies and their leftist fellow travelers who objected to this. And lied that Jews did too.


39 posted on 03/11/2006 5:37:04 PM PST by dennisw (-Muslim's biggest enemy is the founder of Islam, Muhammad. Muslims are victims of this evil conman-)
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To: dennisw

bttt


40 posted on 03/11/2006 8:29:02 PM PST by Chi-townChief
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To: dennisw
Well, we can now see that the battle lines have been drawn over our dead patriots. They, the muslims, have won a major PC battle against the infidels whom lie deceased, in a war that ended over 61 years ago. Little did the dead know that they would be defiled by members of the religion of peace in the 21st century.

My family members fought, died and for those that came home in what they believed was a just cause only to be insulted like this. Lord help them if I have to re-enlist.
41 posted on 03/12/2006 5:30:43 PM PST by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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To: montag813
A muslim is a muslim is a muslim. They are as nice as apple pie until they reach critical mass.

How many times must history be repeated until people get a clue?
42 posted on 03/12/2006 5:40:51 PM PST by SQUID
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To: snowman1
"AMERICA" TAKE A GOOD LOOK AND KNOW THAT IT'S ON IT'S WAY HERE IF THE SOCIALISTS HAVE THEIR WAY WITH ALL THE "ILLEGALS" AMNESTY GIVES THEM THE VOTE. AND THEY WILL DAMN SURE VOTE FOR WHOEVER PROMISES THEM THE BEST WELFARE STATE.

It is critical that in these next two election cycles that conservatives dig in their heels and make an absolute demand that the Republican party enact the most stringent of policies limiting immigration. Such a policy should flat out ban all Muslim immigration, build a fence on our southern border, and forbid any sort of amnesty or guest worker program at a minimum.

What we are facing is the destruction of our nation, and if we follow the policies we have followed for the past 20-30 years the day will come when we will have to pull the crosses out of Arlington.
43 posted on 03/12/2006 5:41:41 PM PST by Old_Mil (http://www.constitutionparty.org - Forging a Rebirth of Freedom.)
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To: bayouranger
Little did the dead know that they would be defiled by members of the religion of peace in the 21st century.

I have to say, the dead were defiled by their own countrymen. Muslims can ask for whatever they want to ask for, it's up to the civilized world to send them to their rooms.
44 posted on 03/12/2006 5:44:02 PM PST by Old_Mil (http://www.constitutionparty.org - Forging a Rebirth of Freedom.)
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To: Rockitz

I'm surprised. In the last 2 years the Dutch seemed to be waking up to the Islamic problem . I was in Amsterdam last year and the anti Moslem sentiment was growing. I guess it slowed down , how soon they forget.


45 posted on 03/12/2006 5:52:19 PM PST by binkdeville
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To: Old_Mil

As usual politicians have NO BALLS. Not one in Holland could even stand up and state the obvious. The cross was there long befor the Moslems. It stays , accept it or put you building elsewares. Guess they were afraid of the Islamo Nazis and getting their throats slit in the streets. PUNKS ...


46 posted on 03/12/2006 5:55:25 PM PST by binkdeville
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To: Old_Mil
I have to say, the dead were defiled by their own countrymen...

Say that with the knowledge that our fellow country men have NO IDEA how much the "leaders" in Washington have sold "Our" souls for saudi crude. We die, and the saudi's laugh. An Abrams Tank is flipped over by an IED, and the saudis laugh. In the end, we're considered infidels whom deserve the punishment that ,spit, allah has placed upon us. We want to fight, but against whom? When we read books like:
Sleeping with the devil. How Washington sold our souls for saudi oil. I'm a little Fn pissed. Disgusted. VIOLATED!

Unless the sauds fall...we'll keep dying for them, but HEY...keep masturbating to "Survivor" before you sleep tongiht.

America will bleed w/o remorse for the sauds. They're our buddies...in case you haven't heard.
47 posted on 03/12/2006 6:21:03 PM PST by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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