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Skip to comments.BDS [Bush Derangement Syndrome] On the Right (Paleocons, and the like)
Posted on 03/11/2006 4:08:48 PM PST by quidnunc
Ever since George W. Bush won the presidency by preventing Al Gore's hanging-chad attempt to steal it, liberal Democrats have become progressively infected with BDS Bush Derangement Syndrome.
Here's how I think that the contagion of BDS is now infecting a number of conservative Republicans.
If you're a guy, perhaps you have endured this unpleasant and bewildering experience. You're in a relationship and you and the lady have had some disagreements but nothing major. From your perspective things are pretty ok. Then one day you and she disagree on some minor trivial issue and suddenly, inexplicably, it escalates as she unloads on you.
It seems like the love of your life has had a personality transplant, you're facing a virago disgorging a torrent of anger, and all you can think is, "Where did this come from?"
If you're a guy, you're nodding your head in understanding. If you're a gal, you're muttering, "Men are so clueless. We give them all these hints for so long that things are bugging us, they never get the message, then when we finally can't take it any more and snap, they're mystified."
I think you get the analogy.
A relationship that suffers this trauma can survive only if both parties calm down afterwards, focus on their mutual interests and commitment, and work together to solve their grievances.
But it's another thing entirely when Duncan Hunter (R-CA), chairman of the House Armed Services Committee, goes around the bend and offers a bill to make all foreign ownership or leasing of any cargo terminal in any US port illegal. Duncan, my buddy whom I've gone quail hunting with, how could he get so nuts?
There are some 3,200 terminals in US ports. 80% of them are foreign owned or leased. Unions and government regulations have made it impossible for US shipping companies to stay in business, making them bit players in the international shipping business. (See this story in the New York Times, US Companies Weighed Anchor on Ports Long Ago.)
Duncan's bill would cause astronomical damage to the US economy, but he doesn't care because he's on a BDS rant.
Bush could have done so many things better. But what are the real world alternatives to him? We call To The Point the Oasis for Rational Conservatives. It's frankly time for conservatives enraged with BDS to regain their rationality. Listen to Rush, Ollie, Tony Snow, and Charles Krauthammer. Then reflect on George Bush's character.
Who among us could have withstood the unceasing barrage of hatred and lies directed at him by the Democrats? Just think of a disgusting recent example, where Jimmy Carter and others used the funeral of Coretta Scott King to dishonestly insult him in front of his wife. This is a honest decent Christian man who is almost superhumanly gracious to those that hate him.
This quote is absolutely right on the money. Compare yourself to this man. If someone so much as cuts you off in traffic and gives you the finger, how do you react? Right, same as me. Instant anger, instantly seeking revenge.
Yet look at George Bush. Always unfailingly kind to others, even in the face of terrible slanders, insults and untruths. He has a real operating Christianity. I hope someday to achieve being half the man he is.
I think Hunter and the majority of those in Congress are just uninformed and could care less about anything other than their own well being. The American public is even less informed and they like Congress have these knee jerk reactions every time someone panics. America is in for a rude awakening. If al queida is successful in pulling off this big event they speak of America will go nuts,watch and see.WE no longer have leaders we have people standing around watching polls anytime they are not watching out for self. America truly is in dire straights.
Amen. Conservatives need to realize that these purity test are going to kill us. Its is rare that any groups or segments of a party get everything they want. We all get a little of our pet causes in our segment and we unite usually on the 80 percent of things we agree in. Save for it for the primaries folks. Thats where this anger can be channeled at. Thats where we work out our parties issues and differences Where actually there is a forum to debate that doesnt kill us.
I know I cant think of a time we need cool calm leaders is now. I am convinced that this Country needs a cooling down. Realize that not every muslim in the world is the enemy. Its time to be thinking. We are making progress in Iraq, we are making progress in Afgahistan. With our moderate arab allies there has been increased security and intelligence sharing. We have the only curremtly Islamic country that has Nuclear weapons in our sphere of influence. North Africa is starting to look hopeful. There are signs of progress all over the place. Before you know it like you said if they pull off a big one the Congress as of today would go nuts. Something rash would happen. Trade alliances broken. Dire straits indeed.
You have explained exactly why he annoys the heck out of everyone!
There is nothing more insulting than not being taken seriously as an enemy.
bttt for a "sane" take.
My personal favorite is the person who claims Bush is part of the New World Order, Trilateral Commission, conspiracy to turn all Americans into U.N. slaves.
I'm retired now but used to work for the DOD. Hunter was constantly pushing his corporate buddies in San Diego for government work. He's just another hack who's been in DC so long he has forgotten his roots. He and the rest of the Republicans who self-immolated over the Dubai business can go to hell as far as I'm concerned.
"WE no longer have leaders we have people standing around watching polls anytime they are not watching out for self. America truly is in dire straights."
We certainly have no leaders in Congress other than Tom DeLay. And I couldn't agree more. America is in for another "9/11." I just hope its no worse than the earlier one. I'm beginning to believe it will take at least one more blow to finally wake up our so-called congressional leadership and the MSM nitwits.
Your post is full of DU style talking points so why don't you go back there.
Blindness to truth gets the Grand Old Party tossed out of office in 2006 and the demonrats running the Congress. Failing to fix political shortcommings gets garbage like hillary in the WH again. Time for robotic cheerleading is over, portgate was a wakeup call, you did see the 62-2 vote?
"Before you know it like you said if they pull off a big one the Congress as of today would go nuts. Something rash would happen. Trade alliances broken. Dire straits indeed."
A FReeper in the smoke and fire of a tunnel last week said he/she was surprised at how fast the panic set in.... and said he/she was amazed folks (paraphrasing here) got out without being trampled to death.
We need to play smart.
I am absolutely mortified at the behaviour in Congress this week.
Shining beacon on a hill, are ye?
I think you are exactly right.
Your kind words are greatly appreciated~~!
He's just nailed a big bulk of the crowd that particpated in this. They didn't have the guts to disagree openly and strongly on the others, they chose to make the UAE the scapegoat to unleash. Which is why they aren't feeling cheerful that they got what they "wanted", because this isn't really what they wanted.
In late December 2000, just after Gore conceded, he had a meeting with Dick Cheney, Condi Rice, Donald Rumsfeld, and Paul Wolfowitz to get their views on what to focus on in his administration's foreign policy. After they were through, he asked, "What about India?" They stared at him. "It's a democracy of one billion people," he explained. "We need India as an ally. It's the only country in Asia that can stand up to China. I want a policy for India from you." After two weeks, he bugged Condi again. She had forgotten. No one but Bush understood how important an alliance with India was to America's national security. Thus the triumph of Bush's India visit last week.....This is just an example of Bush's geopolitical smarts.
Hadn't heard that before. G.W.B.'s wisdom and coup with India I well knew and had followed, but wasn't aware Gore had a sane thought about it. Though, that was back before he allowed 2000 to fester to a point where he went completely mad.
Do you really want to join the Democrats in an orgy of Bush-bashing, turn control of Congress over to them so they can spend the next two years in a revenge-crusade to impeach him, and elect Hillary in 2008?
Apparently our House and Senate do, and apparently many of our conservative "commentators" are more interested with being "pure" than operating with sense.
Bush could have done so many things better. But what are the real world alternatives to him? We call To The Point the Oasis for Rational Conservatives. It's frankly time for conservatives enraged with BDS to regain their rationality. Listen to Rush, Ollie, Tony Snow, and Charles Krauthammer. Then reflect on George Bush's character. Who among us could have withstood the unceasing barrage of hatred and lies directed at him by the Democrats? Just think of a disgusting recent example, where Jimmy Carter and others used the funeral of Coretta Scott King to dishonestly insult him in front of his wife. This is a honest decent Christian man who is almost superhumanly gracious to those that hate him.
And they hate him for it. No, really, how many conservatives have savaged Bush for showing kindness to his enemies. Oh, sure, it might be nice if he showed a little more attention to his friends as well, but that doesn't mean he's wrong to treat his enemies as souls needing redemption...as we all do. I don't pretend to be able to do it, but admire he can. But here we arrive back at what the guy is talking about. Instead of saying WE wouldn't mind a few pats on the back from time to time, a smile, a kind word...instead of addressing that subject head on..conservatives gripe about him doing the right thing in trying to help people (Bill in particular) who need it.
BDS is not a flippant term. It is a real sickness in the soul of liberal Democrats. Conservatives may rightfully and vehemently disagree with Bush on a number of issues, but conservatives cannot afford to be as deranged as liberals. In that direction lies Caesar's doom. If the Democrats divide us, they conquer us.
Yes, and they did it so well the last few weeks.
Thank you for demonstrating the symptoms of BDS.
Congress responds to the 83%-17% poll where the public gives overwhelming thumbs down to the port deal. They are there to represent the people, this is our country and we get represented there by our Representatives. That is the American way, and you should be proud.
Applies to all industries, not just shipping.
You have to be a fool to operate any business with a domestic headquarters. If you want to do business in America today you had better be a lawyer, or run an operation staffed by untraceable illegals. Otherwise you locate overseas and import your product.
I am watching my second career evaporate daily as we loose nearly every bid to companies that use illegal labor; meanwhile everyone who gets a hangnail on the job hires a lawyer and sues the piss out of the owners.
I have always believed that people who don't recognize character, are lacking it themselves.
In reading some of the horrific attacks on the President from so-called conservatives on this board, the fair assumption is that they just can't grasp what it is to have the kind of consistent, Christ-centered character that our President exhibits every day.
PRAY for him! He is being attacked by the Enemy.
The Republicans in Congress should have LED with facts and reason. Instead they panicked and ran. Shameful behavior. Shameful.
And all based on a big lie of "the UAE is taking over 6 US ports".
Let me ask you a question, was the mantra of "the UAE is taking over 6 US ports" a lie or not to you.
If it isn't, I got boatloads of information to show you that your mantra was a lie.
The public also admitted they didn't have damn clue of any of the details, how our ports were run, and basically had no basis to formulate an opinion to begin with.
Why should anyone be proud a public that ADMITTED it was uninformed when polled, and gave an opinion anyway, was listened to? Why should anyone be proud legislators, who's job is partially to impart the FACTS to their constituents, were too gutless to do so? IF, THEN, the public knowledgeable on the deal STILL decides against? yeah, represent your constituency. But don't ask us to be proud they represented admitted ignorance. On their part and on our part of their constituents.
Great post and I fully agree.
Dang! I was just getting ready to blast that troll on post #11, but he's been banned already! LOL
bttt for those accurate remarks!
Trolls like that are easy to spot. No matter how long they've been around, they expose themselves as soon as they start posting the kinds of crap that fills DU, Libertypost and Clownposse.
btw.......interesting that the troll was saying the exact same thing as many of our 'conservative' freepers, eh?
I truly wonder why they aren't ashamed of the fact that they are in perfect alignment with the left on this one?
Didn't need to go further than this to know you don't have a clue
Might not be 100% word for word but close enough.
They may have different reasons for what they think, but they think in lockstep with the left..........especially about this President. And I find that rather frightening.
LOL! Me too, and then I decided to first read ALL of the comments!
That's true, but some fly just under the radar. Stir the pot, under the pretense they're the "real conservatives."
There are many posters here that sleep with the enemy
"Realize that not every muslim in the world is the enemy."
Every Rattlesnake may not be out to inject me with their venom, but in search of the kinder, gentler more tolerant Rattler, I don't intend to tolerate them too close to me.... just in case ;)
If the progress we are making in the mid east comes at the barrel of a gun, then is it really progress? Tolerating us and wanting to live side by side in peace are at opposite ends of the spectrum and seem to be unrealistic expectations. Letting our guard down and looking at the situation through rose colored glasses only gives these crazy muslims that belong to islam more of an edge on us.
Their similarity to the left is impossible to miss. One fellow today said things that could have come from the mouth of Howard Dean or Terry McCauliffe............and I assume he thought he was fooling people......
They want small government because they want to do whatever they feel like doing with no interference, but they are completely liberal in every other way.
You can identify them because they're always bragging that they're the most conservative one around :), but they never show any allegiance to conservative causes other than less spending, and less interference in their lives. Small government liberals.........that's why they use the same tactics and even language of the extreme leftists. They're on the same side.
Yeah, the 24/7 bash or find fault with President Bush is the huge tell tale sign. Stir the pot and post article after article that critize POTUS.
Old game: divide and conquer.
Ah, calling more than 80% of the public racists becuase they didn't agree with you wasn't enough...Now they have some kind of mental disorder.
Y'all really know how to make friends and influence people, eh?
"Don't question his character as much as his competency. His appointments, for the most part have been lackluster and mediocre."
Rice and Rumsfield are mediocre? The selection of Cheney as VP was a master stroke. Like or hate him Cheney has single-handily change forever the power and importance of the Vice Presidency. Remember, Bush is the only President since FDR to add seats in Congress for his party during the mid-terms and re-election. He's just brought India into our "tent". Not the workings of an incompenent.
"Right after 911 he fails to lead congress to a Constitutionally mandated Declaration of War, like the days after Peal Harbor."
Exactly who were/are we going to declare war on? Declarations of War are legal instruments to wage war against a nation-state. A terrorist organization is not a state. Further, this country has engaged in "low scale" undeclared wars since the founding. Adams waged war against the French. Jefferson waged war against the Barbary Pirates with no declaration of war. The list goes on and on. Finally, there is no comparing WWII with WoT. The nation's very survival was on the line in WWII. Until the terrorists start wielding nuclear weapons the WoT is nothing more than a bunch of knats annoying the lion. As terrible as 9/11 was it didn't diminish our power one bit. In a nation of nearly 300 million the loss of 3,000 is "nothing" [note the scare quotes, please before flaming me for this comment]. We could absorb multiple 9/11s and the nation would still survive. And would be mightily pissed off to the point that we might actually start fighting this war like a real war with no remorse or pity.
"We wait a interminable month and a half to strike back at the enemy in Afghanistan."
Logistics, my friend. You can't start a war without positioning your troops and supplies. Sorry, Star Fleet isn't circling above ready to teleport the 4th ID into Afghanistan. That we toppled the Taliban in less than three months has to be counted as a victory unrivaled in the annals of history. Remember we did that with only special forces, air power and friendlies on the ground. Russia floundered there for eight years and lost 50,000+ before leaving in defeat. Remember all the talk that we were going to be there slugging it out in the mountains of Afghanistan for years and years. Never happened did it?
"We sit 5 years later and the WTC's haven't been replaced. In WWII we had all but one of those sunken battleships back in action promptly."
You pay attention to the news at all or just make pronouncements? Anyone following the news knows that the reason that the WTCs haven't been rebuilt is because the good people of New York can't get their act together. The whole project has devolved into a name-calling mess.
"The 2nd term has been noteworthy exercise in rudderlessness. With war raging in Iraq and Afghanistan, he goes out barnstorming Social Security with the claim that if we don't fix it, it will be broke in 2042. That silly initiative falls flat on its face and political capital as well."
Give the President his due for at least bringing the subject up. We HAVE to reform/replace Social Security. Period. It will go belly up if nothing is done.
"More billions get spent on a prescription drug giveaway that is monstrously unaffordable, to pander to the old folks for votes."
Bush promised to do this during the 2000 campaign. Just fulfilling a campaign promise. Rememeber he and Gore were falling all over themselves over this. Seems a lot of voters wanted this. Blame the voters, not the President. Besides, the President can't do jack unless Congress gives his the authority/money. Blame should fall on our fine representatives in Congress, don't you think? The President isn't the king.
"Iraq is invaded successfully, and the occupation is badly administered, billions are wasted on the attempt to democratize Iraq which has scant bearing on our national security."
My question to you is what if after all our blood and money Iraq does become a democracy and friend to the United States? What say you then? Iraq could even become a full-fledged partner in the WoT. There is a reason Syria and Iran fear a democratic Iraq. The Iraqis will remember who stood beside them and who stood against them in getting rid of Saddam and the terrorists. Remember, a new American trained and equipped army is rising in the Middle East. Soon it will be kicking butt and taking names. BTW We didn't invade Iraq, we LIBERATED it.
"Racing forward comes the Harriet Myers fiasco,"
Thanks to the spoiled brats in the punditry and here at FR. Instead of allowing the President his Constitutional right to name his choice, many decided otherwise and ran over the Democrats in attacking the President and his choice. There is absolutely no proof that Myers wouldn't have made a SC justice to make us proud. Instead many decided to throw a temper-tantrum.
"then the Katrina disaster,"
Media-made up disaster, my friend. Most of the stories that came out of New Orleans shortyly after Katrina hit have been proved to have been false. Why no discussion of Mississippi or Alabama? Both those states suffered greatly and yet scarely a word about how well the Feds and local folks worked together. The Coast Guard did its job in New Orleans. The National Guard did it's job, WHEN Blanco finally got around to asking for help. FEMA is a RELIEF organization. Not a RESCUE organization. The responsibly for the Katrina disaster in LA and New Orleans falls on two people: Blanco and Nagin.
"never mind his countrymen have been tossed on the unemployment heap and had careers ruined from outsourcing"
Funny, last time I check the unemployment stats I seem to remember a 4.7% unemployment rate. 6% is considered good.
5 million new jobs in five years. Record EMPLOYMENT. An economy that continues to hum along despire record oil prices. And for all this talk of out-sourcing it turns out that the "in-sourcing" of jobs into the United States by foreign companies is greater than the out-sourcing of jobs out of the United States.
"on the heels of that comes the port-gate debacle."
See the Myers debacle above. Same thing applies here.
"Ronald Reagan performed his office effortlessly and well in his two terms, and won landslide victories to boot."
Take those rose-colored glasses off, my friend. Reagan endured the same trials as Bush currently does with a hostile media and name-calling opponenets. Surely you remember the "amiable dunce" and other names they called him. Remember Beurit? We lost 300 soldiers and turned tail and ran. Remember Iran-Contra. Remember the Bork fiasco? As great as President as Reagan was he had his ups and downs. That we remember glowing his Presidency is because the Cold War ended AFTER he had left office and we could all see that he was a big reason for our victory. The same I think will be said of Bush twenty years hence. BTW George W. Bush won more votes for a second term to the Presidency than any other President in history.
I think you can distinguish who was who around here, EV.
What on earth are you talking about?
I haven't called anybody anything.
The 80% who were against the Dubai ports deal were uninformed and reacting to the blitz of demagoguery unleashed by the MSM and their yapping MSM lapdogs.
The Bush administration was caught flat-footed and didn't react in time to counter it.
The bannee's post on this thread was hardly ban-worthy, IMO.
The bad attitude displayed by Bush loyalists on this thread and others is killing the party, my friend.
People don't take kindly to being called insane racists, know what I mean? Especially over simple policy disagreements.
In their defense of the President, too many have taken to using sledgehammers when scalpels are called for.
Jack Wheeler can go jump in a lake.
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