Devastating bird flu pandemic one step away - expert

RIA Novosti ^ | 07/ 03/ 2006

[Gritty]

The device would isolate the EMT's breath from the patient

I would think you'd sell a ton of these to EMTs in San Francisco...

[blam]

"Patent office challenged it by saying a previous inventor "foresaw" my version of his rube goldberg."

97% of all patent applications are denied on the first pass.

I have some and only one made it on the first pass. I didn't file the patents myself or even make corrections on the 2nd pass etc, the corporate lawyers did it all after sitting with me for about 20 minutes.

[blam]

"The problem with eldeberries is they stimulate the immune system (apparently) which may not be a good thing with this flu."

Some of this discussion is covered in the thread that I linked in post #30.

[Cold Heart]

The patent was a side issue. I really wanted to get the device into use.
Being low cost you could have many of them on hand for mass casualty situations. You could have a dozen patients on oxygen with the mask/bag and minimal observers could see who was breathing on their own and who needed assisted breathing. You had only to breath into the bag and your breath pushed O2 into the patient. No contact of breath of the patient to person giving ventilatons. ie no transfer of pathogens or chemicals. No removal of mask to apply a hand bag. Perfect for large sacle use.

If push comes to shove you can make them in the field by taping two O2 bags together, opposite ends. One bag discharges to the mask (the one supplied with the O2) the other bag discharge end becomes a mouth piece.

Did I say cheap too?

I think the reason the device was rejected by the manufacturer was because there was no immediate market for it. The army told me they were stretched on their research
dollars and would be interested if an outside entity spent the research money. Something I don't have. Medical research is expensive even for simple devices.

[festus]

Any day now something might happen eventually even if its just higher sales this quarter for the flu vaccine.

[festus]

I thought we passed a law doing that last year making it easier toto make vaccines without getting sued

Yup and using that as cover I'm presently working up a batch of bird flu vaccine right out in my garage. What with all this hysteria I should be able to make a killing and get away with it right ?

[Modok]

Please send us billions of dollars to spend on this or we will all die.

[blam]

"I really wanted to get the device into use."

I think it's heck of a good idea. I think I'd be hard pressed to render aid to someone who I suspected of having AIDS. You ought to pursue it, don't be discouraged.

[dljordan]

"Now we can have Y2K hysteria, with out being tied o the calender!"

Great! What an excellent opportunity for some grandstanding, police-state legislation.

[woofie]

Microbe: Are We Ready for the Next Plague? (Alan P. Zelicoff and Michael Bellomo)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1594187/posts

[AdmSmith]

Lvov is thinking about just a single change of an amino acid, maybe the G228S that Niman is worried about. G228 is a glycine to serine change in position 228 of the hemagglutinin protein chain HA1. The S227N described below is a serine to asparagine change in position 227, and it increases the ability of the virus to attach itself to mammalian respiratory cells (like in you and me)

http://www.recombinomics.com/PR/021706.html

"The donor sequences are again on the H, but in H1N1 European swine sequences. The new genetic change, G228S, has also been previously shown to increase the affinity for human receptors. Like H9N2 in the Middle East, H1N1 is endemic in swine populations in Europe. Infection by H5N1 in H1N1 infected swine will allow the viruses to exchange genetic information via recombination and allow H5N1 to acquire S228N. The region of identity between H5N1 and H1N1 is downstream from the S227N position, so H5N1, with and without the S227N change, can acquire this new sequence. This sequence acquisition by the H5N1 virus will also lead to more efficient transmission to humans."

Not nice!

[AdmSmith]

If you want a biochemistry 101 on the flue go to http://effectmeasure.blogspot.com/2006/01/background-science-for-turkish_20.html

[Paloma_55]

Yes there are birds here in the deep woods. I don't have to interact with birds.

For those who depend on the shopping centers and walking among thousands of people a day, its a different story.

[rellimpank]

--thanks--

[VOA]

If (G-d forbid) this killer bug appears on our shores and I get it...
I'll use my last breath to drag myself to as many trial attorneys offices
as possible and cough, cough, cough...

[toast]

it's not clear if this will be spread human to human or also bird to human

How long does the virus last in bird excrement?

Just thinking about how many little green Canada goose cigars are laying around on lawns in Minnesota during the summer.

[Paloma_55]

No Problemo.

I noted in reading that report that I had made a bad assumption on the means of death. I thought it was due to overheating of the brain, but reading shows its the buildup of anti-viral agents in the lungs that does the damage.

[dangerfield]

c.j. Remember when I said we may live to see Everything? Like all history repeated? This may be one of those. I skeered.

[cajungirl]

I am skeered too.

When the first case hits here, I am calling in permanently sick to work as is the main man. And we are going to get tuna and dried milk, etc. My plan is not to leave the house for six months. Hahahhaha. The main problem is if the people who run the power and water dept all drop dead. So we have a water purifier for the lake water.

[beyond the sea]

this "tuna" thing is not a bad idea.

****

"When you notice a cat in profound meditation

The reason, I tell you, is always the same

His mind is engaged in a rapt contemplation

Of the thought, of the thought, of the thought of his name"

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.......... and thank you for that from way back.

I love our cats...................and they love tuna.