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Report: Saddam feared own army as US invaded
Reuters ^ | 3/12/06

Posted on 03/12/2006 8:09:38 AM PST by Valin

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Saddam Hussein's fear of internal rebellion led him to distrust his military commanders even after U.S. forces began their invasion in 2003, crippling the country's defenses, the New York Times reported in Sunday editions.

Citing a classified U.S. military report as well other documents and interviews, the Times also said that top Iraqi commanders were shocked when Saddam told them three months before the war that he had no weapons of mass destruction.

Prepared nearly a year ago, the classified military report shows that Saddam discounted the possibility of a full-scale American invasion, the Times said.

Two weeks into the war, Saddam and a small circle of aides remained convinced that the main threat came from within, leading him to deny a commander's request to blow up the Euphrates river bridge to slow the U.S. advance, the report said.

His main concern over a possible American military strike was that it might prompt the Shi'ites to take up arms against his Sunni-led government, it quoted Tariq Aziz, the former Iraqi deputy prime minister, as telling interrogators.

"He thought they (the United States) would not fight a ground war because it would be too costly" in terms of casualties, Aziz was quoted as saying.

To collect the material, U.S. military analysts questioned more than 110 Iraqi officials and military officers, sometimes posing as military historians and treating officials to lavish dinners to pry loose their secrets. Others were interrogated in a detention center at the Baghdad airport or Abu Ghraib prison, the Times reported.

The accounts, it said, were viewed as credible because they were largely consistent.

After the invasion began, Saddam continued to make crucial decisions himself, and relied on his sons for military counsel, the Times said. It said his military leaders were demoralized to learn there were no WMDs, as they were counting on stocks of poison gas or germ warfare for defense.

The report also said that Saddam put a general considered to be an incompetent drunk in charge of the elite Republican Guard because he considered him to be loyal. It said commanders were in some cases banned from communicating with other units and were unable to get maps of areas near the airport because those would have disclosed the locations of Saddam's palaces.


TOPICS: War on Terror
KEYWORDS: decapitation; iraq; iraqiarmy; iraqifreedom; oif; saddam; tariqaziz; viceisclosing

1 posted on 03/12/2006 8:09:45 AM PST by Valin
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To: Valin

NYT and Reuters make for a suspect article. I would rather see the raw report first.


2 posted on 03/12/2006 8:13:35 AM PST by Thebaddog (Dogs are your only friends.)
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To: Thebaddog

Remember in dictatorships loyality to the leader is more important than competence.

BTW if you do run across it (the raw report) could you let me know? Thanks


3 posted on 03/12/2006 8:18:08 AM PST by Valin (Purple Fingers Rule!)
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To: Valin
How does this skew with the thousands of hours of untranslated tapes that have been discovered? Does this refer to the fact that he shipped his WMD's out of Iraq? He had no WMD's because he had them removed. The MSM will go to the wall trying to ignore the elephant in the room and stick to the narrative "Iraq had NO WMD's, this war is illegitimate." Makes me sooooo angry!
4 posted on 03/12/2006 8:19:14 AM PST by FreeLuna
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To: Thebaddog

" the Times also said that top Iraqi commanders were shocked when Saddam told them three months before the war that he had no weapons of mass destruction.."


"NYT and Reuters make for a suspect article. I would rather see the raw report first."


I am with you on that bit right there, too much has been released saying the opposite of that


5 posted on 03/12/2006 8:21:17 AM PST by sure_fine (*not one to over kill the thought process*)
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To: Valin
Posted yesterday:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1594805/posts
Posted by demlosers On News/Activism 03/11/2006 10:10:33 PM CST · 21 replies · 839+ views

(Reuters) - Saddam Hussein's fear of internal rebellion led him......

6 posted on 03/12/2006 8:22:33 AM PST by Condor51 (Better to fight for something than live for nothing - Gen. George S. Patton)
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To: Valin

There is some truth here. Saddam knew that his commanders were getting phone calls at 0300 telling them that we knew where they were hiding themselves and that they better think really fast about what could happen to them. He also knew where the calls were coming from. Nuff said.

There is also a lot of Bravo Sierra in the article as well.


7 posted on 03/12/2006 8:26:42 AM PST by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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To: Valin
Two weeks into the war, Saddam and a small circle of aides remained convinced that the main threat came from within, leading him to deny a commander's request to blow up the Euphrates river bridge to slow the U.S. advance, the report said

Doesn't make sense. - With the American armies sweeping to Bagdad, slowed only by a sandstorm, how could he think that not impeding our advance would make him more secure?

Something doesn't add up.

8 posted on 03/12/2006 8:35:39 AM PST by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: Valin

Saddam's loyalty requirements were too draconian to earn real trust of his military.


9 posted on 03/12/2006 8:38:36 AM PST by Lady Jag ( All I want is a kind word, a warm bed, and world domination)
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To: Valin

Notice that RUETERS conveniently leaves out that the WMD have BEEN REMOVED from the country months prior to the US led invasion!!!!


10 posted on 03/12/2006 8:38:47 AM PST by PISANO (We will not tire......We will not falter.......We will NOT FAIL!!! .........GW Bush [Oct 2001])
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To: PISANO

What I noticed is that much of this is from a classified report. Who leaked that report and is it supposed to still be classified? This looks like one more occasion when we need to really slam down on people working within our government and acting treasonously.


11 posted on 03/12/2006 8:47:00 AM PST by BelegStrongbow
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To: Condor51; All
Citing a classified U.S. military report

The point I tried to make on the thread yesterday.

12 posted on 03/12/2006 8:49:16 AM PST by Just A Nobody (NEVER AGAIN - Support our troops. I *LOVE* my attitude problem! Beware the Enemedia.)
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To: Thebaddog; Peach
"...the Times also said that top Iraqi commanders were shocked when Saddam told them three months before the war that he had no weapons of mass destruction. "

Especially since we have Saddam on tapes saying he did have WMD and discussing how to hide them and/or get them out of Iraq.

13 posted on 03/12/2006 9:22:04 AM PST by MizSterious (Anonymous sources often means "the voices in my head told me.")
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To: FreeLuna; Peach

Reuters and NYT are trying to pre-empt what's coming out about these tapes. They're getting their lies out there ahead of the truth, or trying to. We can't let them get away with this--time to start writing letters and making phone calls, folks.


14 posted on 03/12/2006 9:24:24 AM PST by MizSterious (Anonymous sources often means "the voices in my head told me.")
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To: BelegStrongbow

More important, was it classified by the US, or was it created out of whole cloth ala CBS?


15 posted on 03/12/2006 9:26:06 AM PST by MizSterious (Anonymous sources often means "the voices in my head told me.")
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To: Valin; FreeLuna
One thing that's very clear to me, is that if Saddam did not trust his own military commanders he would have could cause to mislead them about weapon stocks particularly WMDs.
16 posted on 03/12/2006 9:31:27 AM PST by LauraleeBraswell
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To: MizSterious

Don't know and with that it looks like the leftist press might well have confected a way to say whatever they want, so long as the official sources remain silent on the matter.

Of course, the idea could also be to bait the officials to make a statement they would otherwise have kept entirely unknown, which to me is yet one more good reason to take these traitors out, line them up and deal with the worst ones summarily.


17 posted on 03/12/2006 10:01:33 AM PST by BelegStrongbow
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To: Valin
It said his military leaders were demoralized to learn there were no WMDs, as they were counting on stocks of poison gas or germ warfare for defense.

What the article should have said was that his military commanders were demoralized to learn that there were NO LONGER any WMD's in Iraq to defend Baghdad with.
18 posted on 03/12/2006 10:08:17 AM PST by reagan_fanatic (Darwinism is a belief in the meaninglessness of existence - R. Kirk)
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To: MizSterious

freepmail


19 posted on 03/12/2006 10:52:28 AM PST by Peach
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To: MizSterious

The lies by the left are just sickening. It's about time the administration and Republicans start fighting back.


20 posted on 03/12/2006 10:53:08 AM PST by Peach
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To: Valin
Report: Saddam feared own army as US invaded.

Report: Poor, misunderstood Saddam feared own army as the Evil Bush and his occupiers took over.

Just fixing the title...

21 posted on 03/12/2006 11:09:20 AM PST by Recovering Hermit (I will not need to come here again…I will send my android instead.)
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To: Valin

bump for later


22 posted on 03/12/2006 11:36:14 AM PST by FreeInWV
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