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Rove says troops will remain in Iraq, despite calls for withdrawal
AP ^ | March 11, 2006 | JOHN SEEWER

Posted on 03/12/2006 3:19:37 PM PST by West Coast Conservative

The Bush administration will not pull American troops out of Iraq until victory is won, despite the growing number of Democrats urging a withdrawal, presidential adviser Karl Rove said Saturday.

Abandoning Iraq now would signal to U.S. allies that America can't be trusted, Rove said.

"Tyrants in the Middle East would laugh at our failed resolve," he said. "To retreat before victory would be a reckless act."

Rove was the featured speaker at a Republican fundraiser at Bowling Green State University hosted by Rep. Paul Gillmor, a Republican from northwest Ohio.

Rove, who is Bush's top political adviser, said he came to Ohio to thank volunteers and local politicians who helped Bush win the state that put him back in the White House two years ago.

"You all had something to do with keeping me employed," Rove said.

Ohio will be crucial again to Republicans in the 2008 presidential election.

No Republican has won the presidency without carrying the state, which gave President Bush the White House in 2004, and only two Democrats have won without it in the past 100 years.

A key issue to this year's midterm elections will be campaigning against Democrats who voted against the Patriot Act, Rove said.

Recent attempts by extremists to start civil war in Iraq by blowing up a sacred mosque have not succeeded because political and religious leaders in the country eased tensions by calling for calm, Rove said.

"Why? Because they know Americans stand with them," Rove said. "As long as America stands with them, Iraqi people will reject al-Qaida's attempt to start civil war."

Only 39 percent of Americans support the way Bush has handled Iraq, according to the latest AP-Ipsos poll. Nearly four out of five Americans, including 70 percent of Republicans, believe civil war will break out in Iraq, the poll showed.

Rove did not mention several contentious issues surrounding the White House, including the political storm that forced the reversal of a deal allowing a Dubai company to take over operations at six U.S. ports.

Rove did defend the administration's anti-terrorism efforts and defended its warrantless eavesdropping program.

"President Bush believes that if al-Qaida is calling someone inside the United States, we should know who they are calling and what they are saying," he said.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Ohio; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 2006election; 2008election; bush; gnfi; iraq; oif; rove; staythecourse

1 posted on 03/12/2006 3:19:43 PM PST by West Coast Conservative
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To: West Coast Conservative
despite the growing number of Democrats urging a withdrawal

These are people who want to be taken seriously on security matters. Its not happening for them.

Its a shame that in our two-party system we aren't blessed with two parties who both value national security. In a better world than this one, the presidential debates would be about which party would more aggressively defend the country, which one would more aggressively hunt down our enemies, which party would more aggressively police our borders.

Instead we have one party prepared to wage war (without sealing the borders) and the other who won't do either.

If you care about national security, its a one-party system. There is only one choice. If you expect national security to include border security, the field of choices is a little thinner.

2 posted on 03/12/2006 3:31:16 PM PST by marron
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To: West Coast Conservative
The very fact that Karl Rove is saying will drive the Democs absolutely NUTZOID!!!!!


3 posted on 03/12/2006 3:34:22 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: marron

Wow, VERY well put, marron! Spot on.


4 posted on 03/12/2006 3:37:13 PM PST by NordP (I've seen enough "24" to know there are many things a President cannot talk about, yet must do.)
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To: All

Imagine what we could accomplish if we were all on the same page and the Dems cared about America's success instead of wringing their hands, just waiting for a failure.


5 posted on 03/12/2006 3:40:28 PM PST by NordP (I've seen enough "24" to know there are many things a President cannot talk about, yet must do.)
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To: NordP
Imagine what we could accomplish if we were all on the same page and the Dems cared about America's success instead of wringing their hands, just waiting for a failure.

Actually, it wouldn't be nearly as bad if all they were doing was waiting for a failure. Instead, they are actively attempting to make failure a done deal.

6 posted on 03/12/2006 3:50:30 PM PST by McGavin999 (I suggest the UAE form a Joint Venture Partnership with Halliburton & Wal-Mart)
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I like that DemoRATs logo :)


7 posted on 03/12/2006 3:52:40 PM PST by 4rcane
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To: NordP

If the RATS cared about our success and being on the same page, we probably WOULD be pulling some of our troops home by now. That's the irony.

If the countries of the free world would rally behind America even half as much as they criticize us.....al Qaeda would already be destroyed.


8 posted on 03/12/2006 3:53:09 PM PST by prairiebreeze (Dear Congressmoron.....)
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To: West Coast Conservative; NordP; prairiebreeze
Not that everyone doesn't already know this, but RATS run the AP, and RATS did the bogus polling. There's no way that only 30% approve of the President's handling of Iraq. Leading questions, and overpolling Dems and Independents. The polls are to make news, not to reflect reality.

But to the article, GOOD for Rove for articulating the Commander in Chief's position............and GOOD for him for thanking Ohioans...............because we SAVED the WORLD in 2004! :)

9 posted on 03/12/2006 4:03:47 PM PST by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraq War VET! THANKS, son!!!!)
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To: ohioWfan

Heh! That you did Ohio, that you did...


10 posted on 03/12/2006 4:04:38 PM PST by prairiebreeze (Dear Congressmoron.....)
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To: ohioWfan

My vote was one of many that helped put Ohio over the top!


11 posted on 03/12/2006 4:15:32 PM PST by RockinRight (Attention RNC...we're the party of Reagan, not FDR)
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To: NordP

Well, after viewing the new TV show on cbs called "The Unit" I figure many Dims will now develop some accurate knowledge of the importance of our Military....about time..


12 posted on 03/12/2006 4:54:15 PM PST by crowman
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To: West Coast Conservative

Rove is baiting them...lets see if they take it


13 posted on 03/12/2006 4:54:49 PM PST by georgia2006
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To: West Coast Conservative; AmericanInfidel0; Laurita; CMS; The Sailor; txradioguy; Jet Jaguar; ...

Too bad the RINO's won't allow the "white flag" ad to be run again.

Too bad the RINO's allow the likes of
hanoi kerry and cut and run murtha to
attack our troops.

At least we know Rove, Rumsfeld, and Sam Johnson Viet Nam Vet are not RINO's.

Rumsfeld slams war statements by Murtha
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1580950/posts

GOP Congressman and Former POW Rips John Murtha
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1576009/posts

Rove Credits Swiftvets With 'Energizing' Bush Vote (Thank You Karl Rove!)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1345603/posts


14 posted on 03/12/2006 4:59:14 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Plank Owner and Founding Member of the Department of Homeland Security)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Swiftvets BTTT!


15 posted on 03/12/2006 5:05:52 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker
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To: West Coast Conservative
despite the growing number of Democrats urging a withdrawal

Despite?  

That's the word I'd use if the Democrats were the majority.

16 posted on 03/12/2006 5:12:07 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny
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To: SandRat

Nice democRAT logo! ;-D


17 posted on 03/12/2006 5:17:27 PM PST by nutmeg (NEVER trust democRATs with our national security)
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To: SandRat

LOL. Two great graphics. heheh.


18 posted on 03/12/2006 5:20:09 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: West Coast Conservative

Karl Rove would make a good candidate for President or maybe Vice-president, don't you think ?


19 posted on 03/12/2006 5:22:54 PM PST by oldbrowser (We must act today in order to preserve tomorrow......R.R)
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To: ohioWfan

GO BGSU!!!!!!! GO OHIO!!!!!!!!


20 posted on 03/12/2006 5:40:01 PM PST by freema (Proud Marine FRiend, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: West Coast Conservative
It's my believe that the right is at a disadvantage while our troops are away fighting a war, as I also believe that the majority of full time personnel in the military are of the right persuasion, unlike those of the left who'd rather stay home and milk the welfare system dry, then have the gall to 'b***h' that they're not being given enough handouts.
21 posted on 03/12/2006 5:44:39 PM PST by AmeriBrit (AMERICA's WORST ENEMIES! http://media1.streamtoyou.com/rnc/0519RNCNo-1.wmv)
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To: West Coast Conservative

American's don't run


22 posted on 03/12/2006 6:10:13 PM PST by Mo1 ("Stupidity is also a gift from God, but it should not be abused." Pope John Paul II)
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To: ducks1944; Ragtime Cowgirl; Alamo-Girl; TrueBeliever9; maestro; TEXOKIE; My back yard; djreece; ...
The Bush administration will not pull American troops out of Iraq until victory is won, despite the growing number of Democrats urging a withdrawal, presidential adviser Karl Rove said Saturday.

Abandoning Iraq now would signal to U.S. allies that America can't be trusted, Rove said.

"Tyrants in the Middle East would laugh at our failed resolve," he said. "To retreat before victory would be a reckless act."

23 posted on 03/12/2006 7:13:37 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia; All


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NEVER FORGET


After we were fooled into abandoning the then Free South Vietnamese long ago to their fate at the hands of heavily Soviet-backed bullies invading from the Communist North, came for all of us to see in the end:


Pictures of a vietnamese Re-Education Camp

http://www.Freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1308949/posts


The same Anti-Freedom, Anti-U.S. "Americans" who fooled us back then are at again in a new time of war in a new century with our own Freedom now directly at stake here at home:

WALTER CRONKITE
DAN RATHER
JOHN KERRY
TED KENNEDY
DIANE "HILLARY" RODHAM
WILLIAM "BILL" CLINTON
JANE FONDA
TOM HAYDEN
JESSE JACKSON, and all.




Signed:.."ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer
Veteran-1st Major Battles in the Fight for Freedom of the Vietnam War

(Vietnam War Pictures)
http://www.lzxray.com/guyer_collection.htm


NEVER FORGE


24 posted on 03/12/2006 7:42:54 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: nutmeg
You'll like this one too I think


25 posted on 03/12/2006 8:22:00 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: West Coast Conservative
Look at the way the MSM jumps to the poll numbers after mentioning the civil war that never was. They're just playing on the see-saw, when one argument drops the other goes up and they will play this game until the elections.
26 posted on 03/12/2006 8:30:04 PM PST by Wasanother (Terrorist come in many forms but all are RATS.)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Thanks for the ping!


27 posted on 03/12/2006 9:12:46 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: West Coast Conservative

"Nearly four out of five Americans, including 70 percent of Republicans, believe civil war will break out in Iraq, the poll showed."

Media keeps spouting that like its gospel, but people only thought that because the media insisted it was the case, and ... it never happened.

Didnt happen.
Wont happen.


Iraq is one country that will stabilize and become a successful democratic nation.

MSM: Get over it.


28 posted on 03/12/2006 9:45:47 PM PST by WOSG (http://freedomstruth.blogspot.com/)
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To: marron
"Tyrants in the Middle East would laugh at our failed resolve," he said. "To retreat before victory would be a reckless act."

...and out of curiousity, what represents "victory" in this war on terror? The cessation of terrorist action in Iraq? The cessation of terrorist action worldwide?
29 posted on 03/12/2006 10:46:19 PM PST by Old_Mil (http://www.constitutionparty.org - Forging a Rebirth of Freedom.)
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To: West Coast Conservative
put him back in the White House two years ago.

ONE...ONE year ago!!

despite the growing number of Democrats urging a withdrawal
How many more have joined the "urge" to withdraw? Are they up to 4...5...6??

NOVEMBER 18, 2005:
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Only 39 percent of Americans support the way Bush has handled Iraq
In your dreams. Quit sighting bogus polls as fact.

Associated Press: JOHN SEEWER
SEEWER needs to find another job. He can not seem to report actual facts.

30 posted on 03/13/2006 12:18:45 AM PST by Just A Nobody (NEVER AGAIN - Support our troops. I *LOVE* my attitude problem! Beware the Enemedia.)
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To: West Coast Conservative

marked


31 posted on 03/13/2006 12:21:11 AM PST by 1035rep
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

bttt


32 posted on 03/13/2006 12:24:34 AM PST by nopardons
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To: Old_Mil

"what represents "victory" in this war on terror? "

First, we're determined to prevent the attacks of terrorist networks before they occur.
And we're acting, along with governments from many countries, to destroy the terrorist networks and incapacitate their leaders.
Our commitment is clear: We will not relent until the organized international terror networks are exposed and broken, and until their leaders are held to account for their murder.

Secondly, we're determined to deny weapons of mass destruction to outlaw regimes, and to their terrorist allies who would use them without hesitation.
And we are working urgently to keep weapons of mass murder out of the hands of the fanatics.

Third, we're determined to deny radical groups the support and sanctuary of outlaw regimes.

Fourth, we're determined to deny the militants control of any nation, which they would use as a home base and a launching pad for terror.
The terrorist goal is to overthrow a rising democracy, claim a strategic country as a haven for terror, destabilize the Middle East, and strike America and free nations with ever-increasing violence.
That's their goal. Our goal is to defeat the terrorists and their allies at the heart of their power -- so we will defeat the enemy in Iraq.

The fifth element of our strategy in the war on terror is to deny the militants future recruits by replacing hatred and resentment with democracy and hope across the broader Middle East. This is a difficult and long-term project, yet there is no alternative to it.

President Discusses War on Terror: October 28, 2005
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2005/10/20051028-1.html

If you need more - let me know.


33 posted on 03/13/2006 12:43:48 AM PST by Just A Nobody (NEVER AGAIN - Support our troops. I *LOVE* my attitude problem! Beware the Enemedia.)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
Too bad the RINO's won't allow the "white flag" ad to be run again.

Pathetic isn't it? Thanks for the ping.

34 posted on 03/13/2006 12:45:54 AM PST by Just A Nobody (NEVER AGAIN - Support our troops. I *LOVE* my attitude problem! Beware the Enemedia.)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

BTTT


35 posted on 03/13/2006 3:04:16 AM PST by E.G.C.
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To: Justanobody

Let John Seewer know about his great reporting and analysis on "growing number of Democrats".

info@ap.org


36 posted on 03/13/2006 7:38:33 AM PST by Tulsa Ramjet ("If not now, when?")
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To: Justanobody

That is plenty, thanks. All good goals except for #5, which is IMHO unattainable.


37 posted on 03/13/2006 8:43:53 AM PST by Old_Mil (http://www.constitutionparty.org - Forging a Rebirth of Freedom.)
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To: Justanobody

That is plenty, thanks. All good goals except for #5, which is IMHO unattainable.


38 posted on 03/13/2006 8:43:54 AM PST by Old_Mil (http://www.constitutionparty.org - Forging a Rebirth of Freedom.)
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To: Old_Mil
All good goals except for #5, which is IMHO unattainable.

Well hey, this IS America and we are all entitled to our opinion. ;*)

39 posted on 03/13/2006 9:31:20 AM PST by Just A Nobody (NEVER AGAIN - Support our troops. I *LOVE* my attitude problem! Beware the Enemedia.)
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To: Tulsa Ramjet

Thanks


40 posted on 03/13/2006 11:16:38 AM PST by Just A Nobody (NEVER AGAIN - Support our troops. I *LOVE* my attitude problem! Beware the Enemedia.)
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To: Mo1

> American's don't run

Thank God.


41 posted on 03/13/2006 3:34:19 PM PST by DieHard the Hunter (I am the Chieftain of my Clan. I bow to nobody. Get out of my way.)
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To: West Coast Conservative

> The Bush administration will not pull American troops out of Iraq until victory is won, despite the growing number of Democrats urging a withdrawal, presidential adviser Karl Rove said Saturday.

> Abandoning Iraq now would signal to U.S. allies that America can't be trusted, Rove said.

It would also be the clearest possible signal to America's enemies that America could be attacked with impunity and resisted effectively by guerilla warfare. Thereafter, 9/11 would look like a pillow-fight compared to what would follow.

To paraphrase Winston L S Churchill, America is "fighting to save the whole world from (Muslim) tyrrany." The pillow-fighters on the Left should stand safely to one side and watch politely while the job gets done.

Good on President Bush. He is a fine Wartime President with many admirers DownUnder. In his own quirky way, he will go down in History alongside the likes of Churchill and Wellington and Washington and Lincoln and Roosevelt: great wartime leaders tend to like to hang out together.


42 posted on 03/13/2006 3:47:13 PM PST by DieHard the Hunter (I am the Chieftain of my Clan. I bow to nobody. Get out of my way.)
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To: DieHard the Hunter

HERE HERE..thanks for your support!! Seems some of our congresscritters are abandoning ship in the storm and will risk lossing the congress to their own fears and personal ambitions!! I detest them for playing politics with our national security because of poll numbers that the press manipulates and massages for lefty reasons. If the sane world does not get a handle on world wide policies pretty soon concerning our 'enemies'..we better all buy forty acres,a mule and horde 60 days of water,tuna, and gasoline under our beds...because all is lost!! Not to mention plenty of guns and ammo when the 'vice police' from the 'shariah law' mounty police start going door to door! I hope they start in California....LOL...on the beaches of 'Barbra' Streisands 'estate'...she would look good in a burka........


43 posted on 03/13/2006 11:10:11 PM PST by penelopesire
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To: penelopesire

> I hope they start in California....LOL...on the beaches of 'Barbra' Streisands 'estate'...she would look good in a burka........

LOL! A paper bag would do!


44 posted on 03/13/2006 11:33:23 PM PST by DieHard the Hunter (I am the Chieftain of my Clan. I bow to nobody. Get out of my way.)
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