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Bush Sets Target for Transition In Iraq
Washington Post ^ | 15 March 2006 | Peter Baker

Posted on 03/14/2006 3:33:11 PM PST by Aussie Dasher

President Bush vowed for the first time yesterday to turn over most of Iraq to newly trained Iraqi troops by the end of this year, setting a specific benchmark as he kicked off a fresh drive to reassure Americans alarmed by the recent burst of sectarian violence.

Bush, who until now has resisted concrete timelines as the Iraq war dragged on longer than he expected, outlined the target in the first of a series of speeches intended to lay out his strategy for victory. While acknowledging grim developments on the ground, Bush declared "real progress" in standing up Iraqi forces capable of defending their nation.

"As more capable Iraqi police and soldiers come on line, they will assume responsibility for more territory with the goal of having the Iraqis control more territory than the coalition by the end of 2006," he said in a speech to the Foundation for Defense of Democracies.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaedarulesin9; georgewbush; iraq; iraqization; oif; presidentbush; timebomb; timetable; transition; vietnamization; withdrawal; withdrawlwithhonor
Light at the end of the tunnel!
1 posted on 03/14/2006 3:33:13 PM PST by Aussie Dasher
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To: Aussie Dasher

This is a major slap in the face to Al Qaeda.

We're saying that Iraq is becoming stable enough for us to begin our transition out.

2 posted on 03/14/2006 3:34:56 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Aussie Dasher

um...how did they extrapolate "set targets" out of what President Bush said ?


3 posted on 03/14/2006 3:41:32 PM PST by stylin19a (Do you still have sex or are you already playing golf?)
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To: Aussie Dasher

Dumpacraps and their enablers will be spinning this as the "Vietnamization" of Iraq, and praying for a rerun of Saigon.


5 posted on 03/14/2006 3:44:36 PM PST by Denver Ditdat (Melting solder since 1975)
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To: Aussie Dasher

Finally.


Thank you Mr. President, good job.


Troops, AWESOME JOB!


6 posted on 03/14/2006 3:46:58 PM PST by trubluolyguy (The optimist sees the doughnut, the pessimist sees the hole.)
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To: All

Too bad the RINO's won't allow the "white flag" ad to be run again on TV

Pass this "white flag" ad around on the internet

http://www.gop.com/Media/120905.wmv



Now is the time for all good men and women
to come to the aid of our country
and show support for our service men and women.

You do not have to be in DC to show support for the Troops.

Visit your local military base today and at least once a week.

Or a military or veteran hospital.

If you can't do that then send an e-mail or package
to our troops for morale support.

Proud Patriots -
Sending care packages,
e-mails, and snail mail
to US Military worldwide.

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We need coast to coast support for the troops, now, more than ever.


7 posted on 03/14/2006 3:47:00 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Have you said Thank You to a Service Man or Woman today?)
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To: Aussie Dasher
[...Bush, who until now has resisted concrete timelines as the Iraq war dragged on longer than he expected...]




So Bush says before the war started:

--This will be a different type of war than America has ever seen.

--This war will last years and continue past his presidency.

--This war will not have the clearly defined victories over standing armies that usually take place in war.

--Victory will be defined by the citizens gaining their freedom and establishing a stable democracy.


And after three years, the Iraqi dictator is overthrown and put on trial, his armies no longer exist, the citizens have elected their own government and new constitution, and the handful of "insurgents" can do nothing to stop this ongoing process except kill one or two innocent people at a time, guaranteeing that they will only enrage the average Iraqi citizen more and more as time goes on.

And the media can only cry "quagmire!"

What a bunch of turds.
8 posted on 03/14/2006 3:57:00 PM PST by spinestein
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To: Denver Ditdat; All

Actually, they are already spinning it as cutting and running.


9 posted on 03/14/2006 4:29:45 PM PST by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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To: Aussie Dasher
>>>>Bush vowed not to retreat in the face of violence .... "I make this promise to .... all the families of the fallen heroes," he said. "We will not let your loved ones' dying be in vain. We will finish what we started in Iraq. We will complete the mission."

The mission must be completed and the US elections in November better not play a factor in any troop withdrawl. Besides, long term military basis are required in both Iraq and Afghanistan. A full pullout isn't in America's best interests. The WOT is far from over.

10 posted on 03/14/2006 4:30:45 PM PST by Reagan Man (Secure our borders;punish employers who hire illegals;stop all welfare to illegals)
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To: Aussie Dasher

Turning over does not necessarily equate with withdrawal.


11 posted on 03/14/2006 4:38:22 PM PST by Loyal Buckeye
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To: Aussie Dasher
as the Iraq war dragged on longer than he expected

Where does this come from? This is not true as far as I know. I don't ever recall Bush saying something like the war will be over by the end of 2004.

12 posted on 03/14/2006 4:54:50 PM PST by speedy
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To: Aussie Dasher
and the RATS take another one in the...

13 posted on 03/14/2006 5:19:38 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: spinestein
Well placed statement spinestein!

You are an odd one, ONLY in your impressive memory and your savvy in conveying it! : )

How quickly most others forget.....

14 posted on 03/14/2006 5:28:15 PM PST by EGPWS
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To: Aussie Dasher
The light at the end of the tunnel is the headlight of an oncoming train.

President Bush said he was never going to give a timetable. He just did.

Now the terrorists, insurgents and civil warmongers in Iraq will just hang back for a year.

This is major league stupid on Bush's behalf.

I think he's paying too much attention to his poll numbers.

15 posted on 03/14/2006 5:28:53 PM PST by manwiththehands (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: Loyal Buckeye

I got that out of this too. That the country is turned over to Iraqis doesn't mean a single American soldier leaves. It just means that Americans don't handle the streets, Iraqis do.


16 posted on 03/14/2006 5:30:11 PM PST by LibertarianInExile (Freedom isn't free--no, there's a hefty f'in fee--and if you don't throw in your buck-o-5, who will?)
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To: Aussie Dasher; Travis McGee

The President is freeing up troops for the liberation of IRAN from the Ayatollahs and terrorists.

Make no mistake. That situation will be ripe in about a year and a half.


17 posted on 03/14/2006 5:48:47 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It. Pray for Our Troops!)
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To: manwiththehands
Not at all. He did not set any table for withdrawal, all what he said that they hope that by the end of this year Iraqi troops are going to handle more territories than non Iraqi coalition troops. Stop your silly knee jerk reaction.
18 posted on 03/14/2006 5:49:44 PM PST by jveritas (Hate can never win elections.)
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To: manwiththehands
Not at all. He did not set any table for withdrawal, all what he said that they hope that by the end of this year Iraqi troops are going to handle more territories than non Iraqi coalition troops. Stop your silly knee jerk reaction.
19 posted on 03/14/2006 5:49:44 PM PST by jveritas (Hate can never win elections.)
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To: Southack

What about this civil war the MSM keeps telling us about?


20 posted on 03/14/2006 6:08:02 PM PST by RockinRight (Attention RNC...we're the party of Reagan, not FDR)
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To: speedy
I don't ever recall Bush saying something like the war will be over by the end of 2004.

Stop covering up for him, speedy. You know he said we'd be out of there by 2004 and he hasn't delivered. Time to impeach.

:-) Sarcasm folks.

If we start moving out after three, that's pretty darn fast when comparing it to Germany or Japan after WWII.

21 posted on 03/14/2006 6:25:52 PM PST by Herford Turley (Conservatism will save America)
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To: jveritas
"President Bush vowed for the first time yesterday to turn over most of Iraq to newly trained Iraqi troops by the end of this year ...

Sounds like part of a timetable to me. What if the Iraqi's aren't ready? Then his critics will accuse him of "lying" about his "timetable".

Bush is having the "sill knee jerk reaction."

22 posted on 03/14/2006 7:37:27 PM PST by manwiththehands (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: manwiththehands

[What if the Iraqi's aren't ready? Then his critics will accuse him of "lying" about his "timetable".]



OH NO! His critics might accuse Bush of "lying".

But series, though. I enjoy criticizing Bush about his spendthrift ways as much as the next person, but assuming Bush is going to cough up a legitimate timetable in Iraq because of fear of what his critics might accuse him of is unnecessary.


23 posted on 03/14/2006 7:45:59 PM PST by spinestein (The network news is to journalism what McDonald's is to food.)
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To: bnelson44
Actually, they are already spinning it as cutting and running.

Lord forgive me, but I loathe those barstids.

24 posted on 03/14/2006 7:50:24 PM PST by Denver Ditdat (Melting solder since 1975)
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To: RockinRight
What about this civil war the MSM keeps telling us about?

They're working on it. Give them time - things like this take a while to set up, you know!

25 posted on 03/14/2006 7:53:34 PM PST by Denver Ditdat (Melting solder since 1975)
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To: manwiththehands
"As more capable Iraqi police and soldiers come on line, they will assume responsibility for more territory with the goal of having the Iraqis control more territory than the coalition by the end of 2006," he said in a speech to the Foundation for Defense of Democracies.

I don't see how this is a timetable or that we are cutting and running. It is a goal, not a set date. Moreover, it doesn't mean that the coalition forces won't be responsible for some Iraqi territory.

26 posted on 03/14/2006 7:59:01 PM PST by kabar
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To: 4bbldowndraft
I'm not looking forward to the news in the weeks following the withdrawal. I see a firestorm of violence. God help those people.

From the article, "The president made no commitments about withdrawing U.S. troops, but he repeated his general formula that Americans could come home as Iraqis eventually take over the fight.

27 posted on 03/14/2006 8:01:24 PM PST by kabar
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To: trubluolyguy

I echo your sentiments!!


28 posted on 03/14/2006 8:22:33 PM PST by Pragmatic Warrior (Grow your own dope. Plant a liberal!!)
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To: manwiththehands
You really need to reread the article.

P.S.

Here's a hint..........

(The President did NOT give a timetable for the withdrawal of U.S. troops)
29 posted on 03/14/2006 8:32:43 PM PST by Pragmatic Warrior (Grow your own dope. Plant a liberal!!)
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To: manwiththehands

No need to argue with you anymore. Time will tell who is right.


30 posted on 03/14/2006 9:02:56 PM PST by jveritas (Hate can never win elections.)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Bump for the troops.


31 posted on 03/14/2006 10:36:49 PM PST by afnamvet
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To: manwiththehands
"This is major league stupid on Bush's behalf."

I agree with you. We're now sending in 70-80,000 more troops to help them set up their gvt. AlQuida is now sitting back and saying, hey, we got time. Let's give it 2-3 years and then take over.

32 posted on 03/14/2006 10:44:35 PM PST by AGreatPer
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To: jveritas; spinestein; kabar; Pragmatic Warrior; AGreatPer
"President Bush vowed for the first time yesterday to turn over most of Iraq to newly trained Iraqi troops by the end of this year...

I agree, only time will tell. However, "vowed" and "by the end of this year" is a timetable.

This is a WAR. Not a PR battle. Even if this were the plan "all along" why divulge it to the world and your enemies? It does NOT make sense!

I would not be surprised if the attacks started to wain. And I would not be surprised if they wain because the instigators see a misstep, a weakness in resolve. "By the end of the year" is less than a year away.

If I were an insurgent, terrorist or an instigator of an Iraqi civil war, I would tell my troops: "There it is, my brothers. A timetable. Back off. Let the Americans believe the Iraqi "troops" are in control. Be patient. It will only be a matter of time now when the Americans leave and we can continue."

33 posted on 03/15/2006 4:38:38 AM PST by manwiththehands (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: Aussie Dasher

Flashback: November, 2005:



The President Explains Why Timetables For Withdrawal Are Bad Strategy. PRES. BUSH: "Setting an artificial deadline to withdraw would send a message across the world that America is a weak and an unreliable ally. Setting an artificial deadline to withdraw would send a signal to our enemies - that if they wait long enough, America will cut and run and abandon its friends. And setting an artificial deadline to withdraw would vindicate the terrorists' tactics of beheadings and suicide bombings and mass murder - and invite new attacks on America." (President Bush, Remarks On The War On Terror, Annapolis, MD, 11/30/05)


34 posted on 03/15/2006 4:58:18 AM PST by Drago
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To: manwiththehands
I agree, only time will tell. However, "vowed" and "by the end of this year" is a timetable.

The word "vowed" is what the author wrote, not the President's actual words. Again, the President said, "As more capable Iraqi police and soldiers come on line, they will assume responsibility for more territory with the goal of having the Iraqis control more territory by the end of 2006," he said in a speech to the Foundation for Defense of Democracies.

The President's statement stands by itself. A goal is not a timetable and controlling more territory than the coalition forces has nothing to do with withdrawal. In the article, the author wrote, "The president made no commitments about withdrawing U.S. troops, but he repeated his general formula that Americans could come home as Iraqis eventually take over the fight."

This is a WAR. Not a PR battle. Even if this were the plan "all along" why divulge it to the world and your enemies? It does NOT make sense!

Of course it makes sense. Bush was directing his statements primarily at the Iraqis to get their act together and form a government. The US does not have an open ended commitment to remain there forever. The author of the article seems to say as much, i.e., "He also used the speech to urge Iraqis to form a unity government three months after parliamentary elections, and he accused Iran of providing explosives to Shiite militias attacking U.S. forces in Iraq."

The President is just restating what he always has when it comes to his "plan" for Iraq. As the Iraqis stand up, we stand down. There is nothing wrong with establishing goals and benchmarks. They have to be part of any plan involving the training and equiping of Iraqi forces to assume more of the security burden for their own country. In the end, circumstances will decide when we leave, not dates.

As far as the world and our enemy is concerned, we are serving notice that the US is not an occupying power and that time is on our side. AQ will have to deal with a trained Iraqi security force and the Iraqi insurgents, a distinct minority, will have to deal with the Iraqi majority who may not be as restrained as we are in dealing with them. The best time for the insurgents to strike a deal is now rather than wait until the Shia/Kurd majority deals with them in a more traditional manner in that part of the world.

If I were an insurgent, terrorist or an instigator of an Iraqi civil war, I would tell my troops: "There it is, my brothers. A timetable. Back off. Let the Americans believe the Iraqi "troops" are in control. Be patient. It will only be a matter of time now when the Americans leave and we can continue."

Time is on our side, not the enemy's. More and more Iraqi forces are being trained, more people [including Sunni arabs] are paticipating in the democratic process, the economy is improving, and the infrastructure is being rebuilt with many large projects coming onstream in the upcoming months.

The enemy is not a military threat to us or the Iraqi government any more than the IRA was in Northern Ireland. IED's and car bombs are a physchological disruption to the formation of a peaceful, civil society, but they cannot hold territory or assume power. The enemy has no political agenda except to cause death and destruction. The Baathist/Sunni arabs comprise only 20% of the population and the insurgents far less. The insurgents are fighting a losing battle and time will diminish whatever domestic support they may have. Their wanton disregard for human life is not winning them friends among the Iraqi people who are the primary victims.

35 posted on 03/15/2006 6:06:15 AM PST by kabar
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To: manwiththehands

But.......the President did NOT say anything about American troop withdrawal.

You are reading something into his statement that doesn't exist.

Plus, he has ALWAYS said, that when Iraq stands up, we'll stand down.

This is nothing new, except to explain to the American people that the Iraqi troops are doing a good job so far, and that he expects their success to continue.

These statements do not give comfort to the enemy. Quite the contrary. It probably gives them nightmares!!


36 posted on 03/15/2006 8:43:34 AM PST by Pragmatic Warrior (Grow your own dope. Plant a liberal!!)
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To: manwiththehands

Just a reminder, but it is the Iraqis who are supposed to be taking over the security of their country.

President Bush is doing nothing more than letting us know that this process is moving along as expected.

Once the point is reached where the Iraqis ARE in control of their own security, then the insurgency is doomed. The insurgents are a small minority of the people and every further attack on security can only anger and enrage the majority against them because instead of attacking U.S. forces, they'll be attacking the citizens of Iraq.


37 posted on 03/15/2006 12:48:58 PM PST by spinestein (The network news is to journalism what McDonald's is to food.)
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To: manwiththehands

I hope you don't have a job where you have to act under pressure.


38 posted on 03/15/2006 12:52:21 PM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: manwiththehands
If I were an insurgent, terrorist or an instigator of an Iraqi civil war, I would tell my troops: "There it is, my brothers. A timetable. Back off. Let the Americans believe the Iraqi "troops" are in control. Be patient. It will only be a matter of time now when the Americans leave and we can continue."

As more capable Iraqi police and soldiers come on line, they will assume responsibility for more territory -- with the goal of having the Iraqis control more territory than the coalition by the end of 2006. And as Iraqis take over more territory, this frees American and Coalition forces to concentrate on training and on hunting down high-value targets like the terrorist Zarqawi and his associates. As Iraqis stand up, America and our coalition will stand down. And my decisions on troop levels will be made based upon the conditions on the ground, and the recommendations of our military commanders -- not artificial timetables set by politicians here in Washington, D.C.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2006/03/20060313-3.html


39 posted on 03/15/2006 12:59:36 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: Mr. Lucky

I have a lot of pressure at work ... but it's electronic test equipment applications hardware and software integration engineering. It's very frustrating sometimes, but it's certainly a lot more predictable and easier to deal with than Muslims. :-)


40 posted on 03/15/2006 7:09:12 PM PST by manwiththehands (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: Cboldt
"As more capable Iraqi police and soldiers come on line ..."

Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah ...

41 posted on 03/15/2006 7:10:53 PM PST by manwiththehands (Islam is as Islam does.)
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