Sheep's Clothing and Adam Smith

World Net Daily ^ | March 13, 2006 | Vox Day

[TomasUSMC]

We have created more than 20 million jobs for the 30 million illegal aliens that live here.

BINGO!

[texastoo]

BINGO!

10 million illegal aliens without jobs. Whose responsibillity is it to cloth, feed, house, provide dental and medical for these people?

[raybbr]

Exports to Mexico have increased from $50 billion in 1994 to $120 billion in 2005. Exports to Canada have increased from $43 trillion to $76 trillion during the same time.

Pretty typical of you to tell only half the story. Our trade balance has gone from a plus to huge deficit.

Trade with Mexico : 1992

NOTE: All figures are in millions of U.S. dollars.

Month	Exports	Imports	Balance
January 1992	3,060.6	2,493.6	567.0
February 1992	3,201.1	2,612.4	588.7
March 1992	3,527.8	2,944.4	583.4
April 1992	3,514.1	2,940.8	573.3
May 1992	3,404.8	2,962.6	442.2
June 1992	3,472.4	3,147.4	325.0
July 1992	3,522.6	2,860.8	661.8
August 1992	3,149.7	2,996.0	153.7
September 1992	3,532.1	3,007.7	524.4
October 1992	3,437.2	3,398.4	38.8
November 1992	3,400.9	3,014.9	386.0
December 1992	3,369.0	2,832.1	536.9
TOTAL	40,592.3	35,211.1	5,381.2

Trade with Mexico : 2005

NOTE: All figures are in millions of U.S. dollars.

Month	Exports	Imports	Balance
January 2005	9,196.2	12,105.6	-2,909.4
February 2005	8,975.7	12,643.9	-3,668.3
March 2005	9,875.8	14,133.8	-4,258.0
April 2005	9,842.2	14,242.1	-4,399.9
May 2005	9,930.5	14,406.3	-4,475.8
June 2005	10,090.7	14,855.0	-4,764.3
July 2005	9,222.1	12,741.6	-3,519.5
August 2005	10,611.6	14,831.6	-4,220.0
September 2005	10,287.3	14,600.3	-4,313.0
October 2005	10,904.9	15,698.2	-4,793.3
November 2005	10,900.8	15,465.5	-4,564.7
December 2005	10,211.2	14,474.0	-4,262.8
TOTAL	120,048.9	170,197.9	-50,149.0

[raybbr]

If Mr. Day doesn't know that the fastest-growing economies in Europe at the moment are the new EU members, then . . . forget it.

Sure. Those economies were in the tank. There was noplace for them to go but up. That means nothing.

[raybbr]

Who would you want to settle trade disputes? Somebody has to have the authority to rule that you're cheating.

That's pretty funny. They had to create a whole new international beauracracy to oversee "free trade". Yep. There's no corruption in the WTO - no anti-Americanism in the WTO.

[1rudeboy]

There is a difference between traveling from Point A to Point B at 30mph, and 60mph. Protectionists consistently fail to understand that simple fact.

[Iscool]

Our industry produces and exports more now than at any other time in our history.

I really don't mean to doubt you but maybe then you can explain why I can barely find anything made in America...

Oh, you said our exports...So our quantity level has drastically increased but we send it all out thru the export market...That must be because everyone else in the world buys American made goods except for us...

But considering we no longer make appliances, small or large, clothes, towels and blankets, nails, valves, plumbing, lumber, dishes, razors, machines, machine tools,and thousands of other things we used to make here, maybe you can point out the massive types of products that we now ship out...

[Iscool]

If Mr. Day doesn't know that the fastest-growing economies in Europe at the moment are the new EU members, then . . . forget it.

While that may be true, it's also true that the OLD EU members are dying...They are working on a downward spiral to get competetive with the 'new' members...Just as you guys are advocating we do with Mexico and China...

[Iscool]

I missed illegal-immigration section in NAFTA.

No problem...George B covered that one in Cafta...

[1rudeboy]

And as soon as the new members adopt protectionist policies, their downward spiral will begin.

[1rudeboy]

Missed that one too. The Central American Free Trade Agreement contains a section regarding illegal immigration from Mexico?

[Iscool]

There is a difference between traveling from Point A to Point B at 30mph, and 60mph. Protectionists consistently fail to understand that simple fact.

Nope...We get it perfectly...The Democrats will destroy this country at 30 mph...The Republicans are doing it at 60...That's an easy one...

[Iscool]

Missed that one too. The Central American Free Trade Agreement contains a section regarding illegal immigration from Mexico?

I've read that it does for Central America and I believe I read it applies to 'all' the Americas...

[1rudeboy]

Oh, please share.

[1rudeboy]

Then work to elect Democrat candidates that you find more appealing.

[Mase]

Pretty typical of you to tell only half the story. Our trade balance has gone from a plus to huge deficit.

Pretty typical of you protectionists to not be able to tell us why a current account deficit is bad. The last time we had a current account surplus was during a recession. If what you claim is true, Japan (no growth economy and 7 years of deflation) and Germany (12% unemployment and no growth economy) should be the world's ideal economies. Which would you prefer?

[hedgetrimmer]

We export wheat and soybeans, which are the biggest government subsidized crops.

[hedgetrimmer]

10 million illegal aliens without jobs. Whose responsibillity is it to cloth, feed, house, provide dental and medical for these people?

A lot of them are in state and federal prisons. And don't forget the INS is detaining 39,000 chinese whose government will not take them back.

[1rudeboy]

. . . maybe you can point out the massive types of products that we now ship out . . . .

Here is an excellent place to start your research. One of the most comprehensive websites out there. Most protectionists will react to it like vampires to garlic.

[ninenot]

Yah, and real DISPOSABLE INCOME has dropped.

Median wage has dropped--it was high-water in the mid-1970's.