Posted on 03/15/2006 5:16:58 PM PST by Spiff
McCain CHALLENGES PETER GADIEL TO DEBATE HIM IN ARIZONA . GADIEL ACCEPTS CHALLENGE
ENCOUNTER WITH JOHN McCAIN:
At the end of a week of lobbying, we accidentally met Sen. John McCain just outside the Russell Senate Office Building . Joan, Bruce and I approached him identified ourselves as 9/11 family members. We told him we opposed his amnesty bill and of our promise to hold accountable members of Congress who vote for it for the acts of violence that result. The following conversation resulted:
McCain looked at Joan and said : “You're kidding, aren't you?”
Joan Molinaro : “No, we're not kidding.”
At this, McCain started screaming and pointed his finger in our faces: “ After all I've done for you people! I welcome you to come to my state. I'll debate the issue with you. The people of Arizona trust me…I got 77% of the vote last year. Who do you think they'll believe?”
Peter Gadiel : “ Yeah sure. You won that race by getting 85 % of your money from out of state.”
McCain : “It's people like you who make my job so hard. I got 77% of the vote…."
Gadiel: "Oh sure, but you needed What kind of confidence is that?"
By this time, Joan and Peter were turning their backs to McCain, and he started to come after them. But Bruce saw a guard from the Russell Building come out, take McCain by the arm and pull him inside the building.
9/11 FSA accepts Senator McCain's challenge to debate him on the issue of illegal immigration.
9/11 FSA members Joan Molinaro, Bruce De Cell, Grace Godshalk and Peter Gadiel lobbied the Senate during the week of February 27 to March 3. Part of the time we were accompanied by Bill Buchanan, Bob Shoemaker, Helen Pfalsgraf and Rick Rio of Virginia 's very effective immigration reform group, ANCIR. Our purpose was to oppose bills that would reward illegal aliens by granting them amnesty and the right to become citizens of the United States.
The worst amnesty bills are S. 1033 sponsored by Sens. McCain and Kennedy, and the as yet unnumbered bill sponsored by Sen. Arlen Specter.
We had a lengthy appointment with one Senator and met briefly with a second. In addition, we had meetings with staff members representing twelve other Senators.
We were able to attend a portion of the Senate Judiciary Committee's discussion of illegal immigration in the “markup” session of Thursday March 2. During this meeting Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) disgraced himself by showing contempt for of all those who have been killed or injured by illegal aliens. Graham said he plays golf, that most of the courses he plays on use illegal alien labor, and that he, like many other Americans is happy to benefit from that cheap labor. Joan, Bruce and I were appalled that a United States Senator would admit that he thinks lower greens fees are more important than the lives of those he claims to represent. During the hearing, Sen. Russ Feingold (D-Wis) issued a press release endorsing the McCain-Kennedy amnesty.
The 9/11 FSA position is this: if an amnesty passes, among the 11,000,000 to 20,000,000 recipients of amnesty there will inevitably be violent felons and terrorists. (For example, one of the participants in the 1993 WTC bombing had received amnesty in 1986. Other recipients of the ‘86 amnesty have been involved in crimes such as the killings outside CIA headquarters.) We told the staffs of Feingold, Graham and other amnesty supporters that if an amnesty bill is passed, when violent criminal or terrorist acts are committed by those receiving amnesty, 9/11 FSA will make sure that the people in their states know that Graham, Feingold, et al, made those crimes possible by allowing the perpetrators to stay in the USA.
This blunt approach has been made necessary by the failure of many members of the Senate to overcome their reliance on contributions made by the members of the US Chamber of Commerce, National Association of Manufacturers and other employers of illegals; their failure to ignore the expensive lobbying campaigns of LaRaza, the ACLU, the United Methodist Church, George Soros, and so on.
Since the 9/11 attacks, 9/11 FSA has several times asked for meetings with representatives of the Bush Administration. These requests were ignored. Then, in December we were called by a Bush official who asked us to meet with her and did so in January. This was very useful and we were invited to a second meeting, this time with a person holding a senior position in the Administration. This occurred immediately after our outdoor visit with Sen. McCain, and was much friendlier.
We have no delusions that 9/11 FSA is now a Washington powerhouse, but we think that we have achieved a minor degree of influence. The explosive response of McCain and the sudden interest on the part of Administration officials may be indications of our voice being heard and listened to by elected officials and policy makers.
After all I've done for you people!
Yes! I conspired with Feingold to restrict your first amendment rights, I am trying to restrict the ability of US agents from extracting vital information from terrorists on how they are planning to kill us, and now I am allowing illegal invaders to stay and wreak havoc all over! AND YOU QUESTION ME? Yes, “It's people like you who make my job so hard." Oh by the way I got 77% of the vote last year! Did you know that John Kerry served in Vietnam! Stop it all you people that who make my job so hard! AAAARRRRRGGGGGHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!
Billions of dollars in trade and investment were on the table, versus the efforts of the families to find out about their loved ones. That financial leverage was the MIA families' last hope to get the Vietnamese to cooperate, but Kerry and McCain betrayed them, with Kerry's staff even shredding evidence they had been given that some MIA's were still alive.
To top it off, during one of the committeee hearings when the mother of one of the MIA's tried to talk to McCain, he lit into her just the way he has done here, and even followed her out into the hallway while continuing to berate her.
Incidentally, McCain's shameful actions as described above are one reason why he backed-off after a single warning from the Swiftboat Vets when he initially tried to come to Kerry's defense against their charges.
McCain should not be allowed near the Oval Office for the simple fact that he is insane.
I am a resident of Arizona and I am ashamed to say that McCain represents this state. McCain is a first class jack ass who is only out for himself. This jack ass deserves no support from the GOP base.
He's not fit to serve his constituents.
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"McCain has just killed his chances for the Presidency."
Please. The number of people that will see this "report" won't even register as a statistical anomaly.
McCain just did himself in .. arrogant a$$!!
Right Here!
ARRGGHHH
I agree with you for the most part, but not linking or seeing the relationship between illegal immigration and possible future terrorism would be ill advised. Our enemies will try to exploit our weaknesses and illegal immigration is one of our weaknesses.
The Senator from Arizona has been a major dissapointment to me. I used to idolize the man and still respect his sacrifices, but will not support him in his future presidential ambitions.
Yet another is Little John's relationship with North Vietnamese Communists
"I used to idolize the man and still respect his sacrifices, but will not support him in his future presidential ambitions."
Have you heard much about Senator Tom Coburn from here in Oklahoma? Problems is, if someone approached him about it, he would probably answer, "Why would I want to do that?", which would make him all the more appealing. He is a maverick too, but typically to the right of the republican party.
Aaargh! I can't believe I had a typo in the title of a post. I hate that! It is one of my pet peeves. It should read McCain Screams at 9/11 Families for a Secure America Member for Opposing his Illegal Amnesty Bill.
"...but not linking or seeing the relationship between illegal immigration and possible future terrorism would be ill advised."
Absolutely. The problem is, it is such a problem trying to unlink our industry from the illegal immigration. (and those of you that say 'Just do it! Make it happen!, hold off on your idealistic ammo because it ain't gonna happen). Specifically, the construction business does not "employ" illegals. They typically have a 'gringo' general contractor running the operation. This guy, typically only high school educated, is living in the 'here and now' trying to make a buck. They don't care if they get shut down. Thus, he wins the 'low bid' in getting the job, and then has his legal, spanish-speaking mexican superintendent round up the mexicali's at the local 7-11. If something goes wrong, he claims ignorance. Now if the response to this is, "well, arrest him,' then I suggest you go look at every residential, new construction job site on the east coast, west coast, and in the south, and tell all the mortgage bankers, suppliers, realtors, closings companies, developers, city councils, appraisers, surveyors, that have kept this economy going that you want it all to come to a halt. Good luck. Don't you realize that it is the illegal labor that has been floating the housing market, thus the entire U.S. economy, and now it appears that that is in jeopardy, and the WH official on health wants us to put canned tuna and powder milk under our beds?
How about this:
All illegals must register under some federal identity program.
All must be fingerprinted and entered in a worker database.
All must show a record of "paid" health insurance policy.
All must show appropriate, valid drivers license.
All must register all family members in the states.
All must pass some basic english speaking skills.
All must pass a bilateral crime database exchange shared between the U.S. and mexico to ferret out the criminals.
If they can't pass the above seven points, they get thrown out.
Right.......NO McCain for President...NO Amnesty for socialists!!
How about this...
NOT allowed into this Country
All that are here are THROWN OUT
Immediately hire real AMERICANS!
BS that our economy will sink if they are all gone, just some more socialist propaganda!
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