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McCain Screams at 9/11 Families for a Security America Member for Opposing his Illegal Amnesty Bill
9/11 Families for a Secure America ^ | 15 March 2005 | Peter Gadiel

Posted on 03/15/2006 5:16:58 PM PST by Spiff

John McCain SCREAMS AT 9/11 FSA MEMBERS FOR OPPOSING HIS BILL TO GIVE AMNESTY FOR ILLEGALS

McCain CHALLENGES PETER GADIEL TO DEBATE HIM IN ARIZONA . GADIEL ACCEPTS CHALLENGE

ENCOUNTER WITH JOHN McCAIN:

At the end of a week of lobbying, we accidentally met Sen. John McCain just outside the Russell Senate Office Building . Joan, Bruce and I approached him identified ourselves as 9/11 family members. We told him we opposed his amnesty bill and of our promise to hold accountable members of Congress who vote for it for the acts of violence that result. The following conversation resulted:

McCain looked at Joan and said : “You're kidding, aren't you?”

Joan Molinaro : “No, we're not kidding.”

At this, McCain started screaming and pointed his finger in our faces: “ After all I've done for you people! I welcome you to come to my state. I'll debate the issue with you. The people of Arizona trust me…I got 77% of the vote last year. Who do you think they'll believe?”

Peter Gadiel : “ Yeah sure. You won that race by getting 85 % of your money from out of state.”

McCain : “It's people like you who make my job so hard. I got 77% of the vote…."

Gadiel: "Oh sure, but you needed What kind of confidence is that?"

By this time, Joan and Peter were turning their backs to McCain, and he started to come after them. But Bruce saw a guard from the Russell Building come out, take McCain by the arm and pull him inside the building.

9/11 FSA accepts Senator McCain's challenge to debate him on the issue of illegal immigration.

Sen. Lindsay Graham admits that cheap labor, especially the cheap greens fees at golf courses, are more important than enforcing the law.

9/11 FSA members Joan Molinaro, Bruce De Cell, Grace Godshalk and Peter Gadiel lobbied the Senate during the week of February 27 to March 3. Part of the time we were accompanied by Bill Buchanan, Bob Shoemaker, Helen Pfalsgraf and Rick Rio of Virginia 's very effective immigration reform group, ANCIR. Our purpose was to oppose bills that would reward illegal aliens by granting them amnesty and the right to become citizens of the United States.

The worst amnesty bills are S. 1033 sponsored by Sens. McCain and Kennedy, and the as yet unnumbered bill sponsored by Sen. Arlen Specter.

We had a lengthy appointment with one Senator and met briefly with a second. In addition, we had meetings with staff members representing twelve other Senators.

We were able to attend a portion of the Senate Judiciary Committee's discussion of illegal immigration in the “markup” session of Thursday March 2. During this meeting Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) disgraced himself by showing contempt for of all those who have been killed or injured by illegal aliens. Graham said he plays golf, that most of the courses he plays on use illegal alien labor, and that he, like many other Americans is happy to benefit from that cheap labor. Joan, Bruce and I were appalled that a United States Senator would admit that he thinks lower greens fees are more important than the lives of those he claims to represent. During the hearing, Sen. Russ Feingold (D-Wis) issued a press release endorsing the McCain-Kennedy amnesty.

The 9/11 FSA position is this: if an amnesty passes, among the 11,000,000 to 20,000,000 recipients of amnesty there will inevitably be violent felons and terrorists. (For example, one of the participants in the 1993 WTC bombing had received amnesty in 1986. Other recipients of the ‘86 amnesty have been involved in crimes such as the killings outside CIA headquarters.) We told the staffs of Feingold, Graham and other amnesty supporters that if an amnesty bill is passed, when violent criminal or terrorist acts are committed by those receiving amnesty, 9/11 FSA will make sure that the people in their states know that Graham, Feingold, et al, made those crimes possible by allowing the perpetrators to stay in the USA.

This blunt approach has been made necessary by the failure of many members of the Senate to overcome their reliance on contributions made by the members of the US Chamber of Commerce, National Association of Manufacturers and other employers of illegals; their failure to ignore the expensive lobbying campaigns of LaRaza, the ACLU, the United Methodist Church, George Soros, and so on.

Meeting with Administration officials

Since the 9/11 attacks, 9/11 FSA has several times asked for meetings with representatives of the Bush Administration. These requests were ignored. Then, in December we were called by a Bush official who asked us to meet with her and did so in January. This was very useful and we were invited to a second meeting, this time with a person holding a senior position in the Administration. This occurred immediately after our outdoor visit with Sen. McCain, and was much friendlier.

We have no delusions that 9/11 FSA is now a Washington powerhouse, but we think that we have achieved a minor degree of influence. The explosive response of McCain and the sudden interest on the part of Administration officials may be indications of our voice being heard and listened to by elected officials and policy makers.


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 911families; aliens; amnesty; arizona; bordersecurity; criminalinvaders; goldcard; hispandering; immigrantlist; immigration; invasion; manchuriancandidate; rino; scamnesty
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1 posted on 03/15/2006 5:17:02 PM PST by Spiff
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To: Spiff

McInsane. He and Dean... Brothers across the aisle.


2 posted on 03/15/2006 5:18:58 PM PST by King Prout (DOWN with the class-enemies at Google! LONG LIVE THE PEOPLE'S CUBE!)
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To: Spiff
John McCain, R-Ariz., Edward M. Kennedy, D-Mass.
3 posted on 03/15/2006 5:21:11 PM PST by VU4G10 (Have You Forgotten?)
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To: Spiff
a guard from the Russell Building come out, take McCain by the arm and pull him inside the building.

MSM has probably interviewed the guard and has a hit piece awaiting the beast's orders.

4 posted on 03/15/2006 5:23:27 PM PST by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: Spiff
Johnny has some ass cursing at 9/11 families.

What an arrogant ass.

5 posted on 03/15/2006 5:23:41 PM PST by Reactionary (The Moonbats Need an Enema)
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To: Spiff

Senator McQueeg strikes again!! Where are those GD strawberries anyway?????
This guy is so unstable, he makes the former '05 earthquake in San Fran look reasonable!!


6 posted on 03/15/2006 5:24:40 PM PST by acapesket (never had a vote count in all my years here)
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To: Spiff

"Joan, Bruce and I approached him identified ourselves as 9/11 family members. We told him we opposed his amnesty bill and of our promise to hold accountable members of Congress who vote for it for the acts of violence that result."

No so fast. While I may not agree with McCain on many issues, trying to equate 9/11 terrorists with the cheap labor coming into america are two different problems. albeit they are both huge problems.
One problem is immediate catastrophic terrorism. The other is slow catastrophic immigration issues. Talk to Bush about the immigration issues. I think he has the terrorism issues covered, except for the portgate fiasco.

okay guys, pile on.


7 posted on 03/15/2006 5:25:18 PM PST by Tulsa Ramjet ("If not now, when?")
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To: Spiff

Fine, we all know he has a temper. Get big publicity, debate him, beat him, show him for what he is and that will be that.


8 posted on 03/15/2006 5:26:09 PM PST by muleskinner
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To: Spiff
That's one reason why he should never be President. You don't want a guy who blows his stack with his finger on the nuclear trigger. I can think of plenty of reasons to disqualify John McCain - and that's one. Another is his stand on illegal immigration.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

9 posted on 03/15/2006 5:26:11 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Reactionary
Johnny has some ass cursing at 9/11 families.

9-11 families do not by some mythical proxy have all the correct answers for our National security. Not by a long shot. The fact is the vast majority that have been working the TV circuits don't have a clue what they are talking about.

10 posted on 03/15/2006 5:26:38 PM PST by SevenMinusOne
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To: Spiff
The McPainiac RINO


11 posted on 03/15/2006 5:29:27 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: Spiff

These folks are lucky that his taxpayer provided bodyguards did not beat them to within an inch of their lives!


12 posted on 03/15/2006 5:29:34 PM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: Spiff

I think the cheese has fallen off his cracker.


13 posted on 03/15/2006 5:29:38 PM PST by capt. norm (If you can't make a mistake, you can't make anything.)
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To: Reactionary

And some people want to see him elected President?He needs to try to get a hold of himself.


14 posted on 03/15/2006 5:29:52 PM PST by Farmer Dean (Every time a toilet flushes,another liberal gets his brains.)
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To: DevSix
"The fact is the vast majority that have been working the TV circuits don't have a clue what they are talking about"

Neither does McInsane......
15 posted on 03/15/2006 5:29:56 PM PST by rockrr (Never argue with a man who buys ammo in bulk...)
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To: VU4G10; King Prout; Spiff; Reactionary; Tulsa Ramjet

16 posted on 03/15/2006 5:30:20 PM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham ("The moment that someone wants to forbid caricatures, that is the moment we publish them.")
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To: Spiff

Has this been reported somewhere other than this blog?

Several 9-11 groups have radicalized.


17 posted on 03/15/2006 5:30:30 PM PST by ConservativeGreek
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To: DevSix

Johnny has some ass cursing at ANY of his constituents or anybody in the general public.


18 posted on 03/15/2006 5:31:16 PM PST by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: Spiff

McCain is dangerous. His own personal mental instability combined with the generic Washington elitism, has really screwed up his head.


19 posted on 03/15/2006 5:31:40 PM PST by EagleUSA
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To: Tulsa Ramjet
"No so fast. While I may not agree with McCain on many issues, trying to equate 9/11 terrorists with the cheap labor coming into america are two different "
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>............
after all the crimes, murders, robbery, rapes, auto accidents committed by these illegals and documented ad nauseum here on FR..you are either uninformed or very callus to the citizens of this country.
20 posted on 03/15/2006 5:32:32 PM PST by ConsentofGoverned (if a sucker is born every minute, what are the voters?)
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham

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21 posted on 03/15/2006 5:32:46 PM PST by King Prout (DOWN with the class-enemies at Google! LONG LIVE THE PEOPLE'S CUBE!)
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To: ConservativeGreek
Has this been reported somewhere other than this blog?

Yes. I saw it on the Minuteman site.

22 posted on 03/15/2006 5:33:44 PM PST by NRA2BFree
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To: DevSix
"9-11 families do not by some mythical proxy have all the correct answers..."

That's true. They've been given a free pass and considerable access to the media because of their loss. But, as noted above, their loss did not bestow some gift of advanced knowledge upon them. Having said that, McCain appears to be on the verge of a spittle flying rage.

23 posted on 03/15/2006 5:36:29 PM PST by n230099
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To: King Prout
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I think it's satirizing of McCain-Feingold's free speech elimination.

24 posted on 03/15/2006 5:37:08 PM PST by KarlInOhio (The tree of liberty is getting awfully parched.)
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To: Spiff

McKennedy....no Amnesty for Illegals for you...

Your time is done.


25 posted on 03/15/2006 5:38:06 PM PST by BurbankKarl
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To: Spiff

Keep it up, demand accountability for his foibles. Queeg will snap so publicly someday that there is no way he will be President, much less nominated.


26 posted on 03/15/2006 5:38:21 PM PST by trubluolyguy (Religion of Peace or Cult of Death? How much evidence exists for either one?)
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To: Spiff

He is a mean spirited self indulgent promoter of himself, for himself, by himself with backing from those he can return favors to. 100% politician!!!!


27 posted on 03/15/2006 5:38:21 PM PST by right right
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To: King Prout
Read the title of the cartoon.

Adjacent to the first panel, in small print.

Sideways.

28 posted on 03/15/2006 5:39:14 PM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham ("The moment that someone wants to forbid caricatures, that is the moment we publish them.")
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To: Spiff
May as well get used to it folks, amnesty for illegals is on the way. Our congress is bought and paid for. Illegals are held in higher regard than an American citizen. There are too many current scams to mention taking place in this country being run by American companies with illegals benefiting and the American taxpayer picking up the tab. The FBI is involved in several cases at this time. The media is covering this up, and not telling the taxpayers about the scams. In the mean time all of congress is receiving big money to look the other way. I would be willing to bet that since 9-11 more Americans have been killed by illegals, in one way or another, than were killed on 9-11. Think that fact will ever make the media? Don't hold your breath waiting.

Yes folks, it's over. Illegals run the show in America now, and we citizen are only beginning to see what is going to take place. Smile, our leaders hate the citizens and love the illegals.
29 posted on 03/15/2006 5:39:18 PM PST by no-to-illegals (oh forget it, illegals have more rights than citizens do.)
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To: King Prout
I would pay to see a McCain-Dean debate. Have Geraldo serve as the moderator.
30 posted on 03/15/2006 5:39:50 PM PST by KarlInOhio (The tree of liberty is getting awfully parched.)
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To: Spiff

Graham said he plays golf, that most of the courses he plays on use illegal alien labor, and that he, like many other Americans is happy to benefit from that cheap labor.

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A U.S. Senator publicly admits he knows of multiple federal crimes currently being committed and that he benefits from those federal crimes. Where is the Senate leadership? Why would they allow someone who admits he benefits from multiple federal crimes to retain his seat?

Graham should be brought up on ethics charges tomorrow.


31 posted on 03/15/2006 5:40:20 PM PST by SUSSA
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To: Spiff

It would be fun to get McCain and Dean together for a stereo scream session.


32 posted on 03/15/2006 5:40:37 PM PST by Steely Tom (Your taboos are not my taboos.)
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To: Farmer Dean

And some people want to see him elected President?



No. They just think he is electable. What he believes in is fluff. It's all about beat Hillary.



Pick your poison.


33 posted on 03/15/2006 5:41:14 PM PST by trubluolyguy (Religion of Peace or Cult of Death? How much evidence exists for either one?)
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To: acapesket

Anyone who spent years isolated in a North Vietnamese prison camp can be expected to have profound and significent mental and emotional problems. Such men deserve our respect and our admiration and our support. They do not deserve to be elected to the highest positions of power and responsibility in our nation.
Electing Clinton, however, broke all the rules. Here was a man who was resonably tied to the USSR secret service, a foreigh sympathizer with no legitimate credentials for the office of president. Gov of Arkansas is a demerit, not a plus.
I like the comparison of McCain and Dean, right on point, lunatics from both sides of the aisle.


34 posted on 03/15/2006 5:41:31 PM PST by Louis Foxwell (Here come I, gravitas in tow.)
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To: Spiff
What does John McCain want to be? An Honorable human being, or President of the United States? Apparently to him, they are not compatible.
35 posted on 03/15/2006 5:41:38 PM PST by appleharvey
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To: Spiff

Look out! He's gonna pop!


36 posted on 03/15/2006 5:42:19 PM PST by .cnI redruM ("Brother, you can believe in stones, as long as you don't throw them at me. - W. Sultan)
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To: Spiff
Who do you think they'll believe?”

It won't be you!

37 posted on 03/15/2006 5:42:24 PM PST by Marine Inspector (Government is not the solution to our problem; Government is the problem)
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To: ConsentofGoverned

"after all the crimes, murders, robbery, rapes, auto accidents committed by these illegals and documented ad nauseum"

"Looks like we got a live one here, Lewis"--Ned Beatty's character to Burt Reynolds in Deliverance.

You are right. I forgot. Only illegals commit crimes. But I didn't know they did it in an ad museum.

Seriously, I have one rather simple question. And please think about it closely. If we shipped all the illegals out of the country tomorrow, what would happen to american manufacturing and the agriculture sector? Okay, now if that can't work, what do you propose to suggest? Remember, this is an arena for exchanging ideas. Would it bother you to have associated domestic products increase 40-60%? Do you integrate them into a worker program? Do you line them all up in Tijuana on the mexican side and say take a number?

Lets be clear where I stand. I don't have a problem with a southern wall. I don't have a problem with working with existing industry to come up with a solution. And I do realize that something is better than what we have. However, I do think the there is a difference in the illegals that come in. And frankly, the terrorists gamed the system. They didn't swim a river.


38 posted on 03/15/2006 5:42:29 PM PST by Tulsa Ramjet ("If not now, when?")
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To: ncountylee

MSM has probably interviewed the guard and has a hit piece awaiting the beast's orders.

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I hope they do. I also hope that when the vetrans "Swift Boat" him it doesn't take the MSM as long to pick up the story.


39 posted on 03/15/2006 5:42:53 PM PST by SUSSA
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To: no-to-illegals

May as well get used to it folks, amnesty for illegals is on the way. Our congress is bought and paid for.




Then they better be prepared to get tossed out on their asses.


40 posted on 03/15/2006 5:43:28 PM PST by trubluolyguy (Religion of Peace or Cult of Death? How much evidence exists for either one?)
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To: Spiff

I will never vote for McCain or believe this ridiculous "report".


41 posted on 03/15/2006 5:43:59 PM PST by PRND21 (quit being such a tool)
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To: Spiff
Every time I see this guy:

I think of this guy:


42 posted on 03/15/2006 5:44:00 PM PST by raybbr
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To: Spiff
McNut is a lose cannon, still looking for the strawberries.
43 posted on 03/15/2006 5:46:23 PM PST by boomop1 (there you go again)
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham; KarlInOhio

ohhhhh


44 posted on 03/15/2006 5:46:24 PM PST by King Prout (DOWN with the class-enemies at Google! LONG LIVE THE PEOPLE'S CUBE!)
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To: Tulsa Ramjet

"Lets be clear where I stand."

They must do it legally. They must pay for healthcare. They need to speak english.


45 posted on 03/15/2006 5:46:26 PM PST by Tulsa Ramjet ("If not now, when?")
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To: trubluolyguy

you don't understand....
it isn't who votes, it is who counts the votes.


46 posted on 03/15/2006 5:46:27 PM PST by no-to-illegals (oh forget it, illegals have more rights than citizens do.)
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To: goldstategop
Also we should never consider anyone that was help all those years in a Vietnam/Russian concentration camp.
If he isn't owned, then they messed up real bad, and thats not like them.
47 posted on 03/15/2006 5:47:44 PM PST by Roverman2K
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To: Spiff
Ooops. I messed up the link in one line of the McCain encounter and it took out some of the actual quote. Here it is in corrected form:

Gadiel: "Oh sure, but you needed 85% of your money from outside the state. What kind of confidence is that?"


48 posted on 03/15/2006 5:48:44 PM PST by Spiff ("They start yelling, 'Murderer!' 'Traitor!' They call me by name." - Gael Murphy, Code Pink leader)
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To: ConservativeGreek
Has this been reported somewhere other than this blog?

Yes. It has appeared on several other blogs and websites. Are you waiting for the obsolete media to report it?

49 posted on 03/15/2006 5:51:40 PM PST by Spiff ("They start yelling, 'Murderer!' 'Traitor!' They call me by name." - Gael Murphy, Code Pink leader)
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To: Spiff
Oh wow. Not the kind of news one running for president needs to create. I wonder if he really was screaming though? That seems to be a bit of a stretch. Screaming can be open to interpretation. I've only raised my voice before and have been accused of yelling.
50 posted on 03/15/2006 5:51:51 PM PST by KoRn
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