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First declassified documents from prewar Iraq released
AP ^ | March 15 2006

Posted on 03/15/2006 8:37:31 PM PST by jmc1969

The Bush administration Wednesday night released the first declassified documents collected by U.S. intelligence during the Iraq war, showing among other things that Saddam Hussein's regime was monitoring reports that Iraqis and Saudis were heading to Afghanistan after the Sept. 11 attacks to fight U.S. troops.

The documents, the first of thousands expected to be declassified over the next several months, were released via a Pentagon Web site at the direction of National Intelligence Director John Negroponte.

Many were in Arabic – with no English translation – including one the administration said showed that Iraqi intelligence officials suspected al-Qaeda members were inside Iraq in 2002.

The Pentagon Web site described that document this way: "2002 Iraqi Intelligence Correspondence concerning the presence of al-Qaeda Members in Iraq. Correspondence between IRS members on a suspicion, later confirmed, of the presence of an Al-Qaeda terrorist group. Moreover, it includes photos and names."

The release of the documents, expected to continue for months, is designed to allow lawmakers and the public to investigate what documents from Saddam's regime claimed about such controversial issues as weapons of mass destruction and al-Qaeda in the period before the United States invaded Iraq in March 2003.

(Excerpt) Read more at dallasnews.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: alqaedaandiraq; hussein; iraq; iraqdocs; iraqifreedom; iraqiintelligence; prewardocs; prewarintelligence; saddam; saddamhussein
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1 posted on 03/15/2006 8:37:32 PM PST by jmc1969
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To: jmc1969

Doing everything they can to down play this at Asso Propagana now aren't they.


2 posted on 03/15/2006 8:38:31 PM PST by MNJohnnie (Are you not entertained? Are you NOT entertained? Is this not what you came here for?)
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To: MNJohnnie

hmmmmmmm....guess I'll have to go out a buy an Arabic/English Dictionary now...


3 posted on 03/15/2006 8:40:50 PM PST by Txsleuth (Bush-Bot;WaterBucket Brigader;and fan of defconw;Cboldt is my mentor!)
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To: jmc1969

Saddam is as dirty as they come...he did aid and support terrorists, including Al Qaeda...the evidence is mounting.


4 posted on 03/15/2006 8:41:51 PM PST by TampaDude (If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the PROBLEM!!!)
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To: MNJohnnie

Darn....why would al Qaeda be in Iraq? What do they think it is, Yale University?


5 posted on 03/15/2006 8:43:10 PM PST by Loud Mime ("Countdown" - A documentary about Keith Olbermann's dwindling IQ)
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To: Txsleuth

Actually I wonder if you can lay your hands on the Doc if Freeper Iraqikurd would not help us out.


6 posted on 03/15/2006 8:47:34 PM PST by MNJohnnie (Are you not entertained? Are you NOT entertained? Is this not what you came here for?)
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To: Loud Mime
Darn....why would al Qaeda be in Iraq? What do they think it is, Yale University?

They thought Salman Pak was a satellite campus for Embry-Riddle...

7 posted on 03/15/2006 8:47:38 PM PST by TampaDude (If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the PROBLEM!!!)
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To: Txsleuth

You don't need an Arabic/English dictionary to know that Islam, the left and the Islamofascists are at war with us.

They're not going to stop.

They don't want "peace", they want to destroy America, the Jews, Israel and Western civilization. Simple as that.


8 posted on 03/15/2006 8:50:50 PM PST by garyhope (In vino veritas. Ars longa, vita brevis, too brevis.)
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To: MNJohnnie; PrinceOfCups

I bet so.....and I wonder if the PrinceOfCups speaks Arabic...he has been in the Middle East a long time.


9 posted on 03/15/2006 8:51:00 PM PST by Txsleuth (Bush-Bot;WaterBucket Brigader;and fan of defconw;Cboldt is my mentor!)
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To: MNJohnnie

Give out a ping. Couldn't hurt.


10 posted on 03/15/2006 8:51:41 PM PST by RandallFlagg (Roll your own cigarettes! You'll save $$$ and smoke less!(Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name)
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To: garyhope

I just wish the "powers that be" would realize it...and I don't mean President Bush...

I think he "knows" it....but, as POTUS, he can't say what he thinks...remember how much trouble he got into by talking about the EVIL ones...during his State of the Union address years ago???


11 posted on 03/15/2006 8:53:53 PM PST by Txsleuth (Bush-Bot;WaterBucket Brigader;and fan of defconw;Cboldt is my mentor!)
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To: Txsleuth

I guess there are so many docs that they decided just to start releasing them even if they aren't all translated.


12 posted on 03/15/2006 8:54:24 PM PST by rwfromkansas (http://xanga.com/rwfromkansas)
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To: jmc1969

"the administration said showed that Iraqi intelligence officials suspected al-Qaeda members were inside Iraq in 2002." ??????
That has the appearance and flavor of a L/MSM spin, implying clearly that Iraqi intel did not know whether or not al-Q mbrs were in Iraq, but could only suspect their presence.
Har, har-de-har!!


13 posted on 03/15/2006 8:56:10 PM PST by Elsiejay (.)
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To: Txsleuth
..I bet so.....and I wonder if the PrinceOfCups speaks Arabic...he has been in the Middle East a long time.

Not really, I've picked up basic survival Arabic---enough to get where I'm going and buy what I need. Translating Arabic to English requires deep skills and a thorough knowledge of the local idioms employed.
14 posted on 03/15/2006 8:57:25 PM PST by PrinceOfCups (Just the facts Ma' am)
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To: iraqikurd

We would be intrested in hearing your thoughts on these documents if you have the time.


15 posted on 03/15/2006 9:00:00 PM PST by MNJohnnie (Are you not entertained? Are you NOT entertained? Is this not what you came here for?)
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To: rwfromkansas

I know that Stephen Hayes...that has been writing about this for months and months...has said that at first the thought was to have it all translated...

BUT, when told it could take a very long time...with the limited translators they have...plus, the chance that those that don't want to believe there were WMDs anyway, might question that actua translation...

It would be better to just "dump" them...and let the "public" decide.

However, I guess Negroponte at first said that there wasn't much there....and now is saying it isn't good to release them because of the possible intelligence that could be gleaned from them...so go figure.


16 posted on 03/15/2006 9:00:01 PM PST by Txsleuth (Bush-Bot;WaterBucket Brigader;and fan of defconw;Cboldt is my mentor!)
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To: jmc1969

Aren't there literally millions of people in this country who know Arabic? Why can't they just work in shifts of 8 hours a day everyday?


17 posted on 03/15/2006 9:01:02 PM PST by Democratshavenobrains
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To: jmc1969

Wish I could read this one? Conclusion of report about the elections campain in France.


18 posted on 03/15/2006 9:01:54 PM PST by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghan Honor Roll students.)
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To: PrinceOfCups

Are there different "dialects" that would also complicate translation?

I know that even here in the US...the way certain things are phrased, can change from the north to the south...at least enough that someone who is new to the language could get confused.


19 posted on 03/15/2006 9:02:43 PM PST by Txsleuth (Bush-Bot;WaterBucket Brigader;and fan of defconw;Cboldt is my mentor!)
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To: Elsiejay

Exactly. And it is going to be interesting to see how the MSM tries to bury this when the blogosphere and talk radio will be all over it. Oh the gymnastics that will be employed. Heh heh.

It will start something like this: **fingers in ears** lalalalalalalala.

I heard lefties on the radio today already attacking these as fake and suspicious because of "Bush's low poll numbers".
They even went on to say that "Saddam never had any WMD. This was the lie to take us to war." Yeah, Bozo? Tell that to the Kurds. I have had it with them. I say full-court press assault. Let's roll.


20 posted on 03/15/2006 9:06:13 PM PST by Shelayne
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To: All
http://fmso.leavenworth.army.mil/products-docex.htm#iraq

Link to the Doucments about Iraq and Al Qeda.

21 posted on 03/15/2006 9:07:15 PM PST by MNJohnnie (Are you not entertained? Are you NOT entertained? Is this not what you came here for?)
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To: Txsleuth
Are there different "dialects" that would also complicate translation?

Significant dialects exist. Classic Arabic in Saudi Arabia is somewhat common because of Islam---not dissimilar to the use of Latin in old Catholic Church. Egyptian Arabic is well understood because of their TV and Movie Arabic programming broadcast on regional television links.
22 posted on 03/15/2006 9:07:39 PM PST by PrinceOfCups (Just the facts Ma' am)
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To: Txsleuth; Seattle Conservative; anita; Peach
http://fmso.leavenworth.army.mil/products-docex.htm#iraq

Link to the Iraq-Al Qeda docs

23 posted on 03/15/2006 9:08:01 PM PST by MNJohnnie (Are you not entertained? Are you NOT entertained? Is this not what you came here for?)
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To: MNJohnnie

Oh...I'll be right there....after I learn Arabic...LOL


24 posted on 03/15/2006 9:11:20 PM PST by Txsleuth (Bush-Bot;WaterBucket Brigader;and fan of defconw;Cboldt is my mentor!)
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To: Txsleuth

Yes, I just heard Stephen Hayes on the radio today, and also Pete Hoekstra. They both said there are approximately two million documents. Can you imagine how many man hours to translate that many docs? Yikes.


25 posted on 03/15/2006 9:11:44 PM PST by Shelayne
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To: MNJohnnie

Seems to me a huge portion of the public has made up it's mind about WMDs and facts won't change that . This won't make any real difference .The MSM wont have to work hard to surpress any of this , the public won't really care at this point . People like us do but to most it's a closed case. Sorry to be so negative but that's what I see.


26 posted on 03/15/2006 9:15:28 PM PST by binkdeville
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To: Shelayne

I told my niece, who is majoring in Political Science in college, two years ago..to take a few courses in Arabic...

She hasn't yet...but, I don't think it would be a bad idea...considering the WOT in the Middle East will continue a long time..and the need to converse with them could be very valuable in Washington DC for a long time.


27 posted on 03/15/2006 9:16:48 PM PST by Txsleuth (Bush-Bot;WaterBucket Brigader;and fan of defconw;Cboldt is my mentor!)
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To: Txsleuth

My friend (and neighbor)recently told her niece the exact same thing. I think she is seriously looking into it.


28 posted on 03/15/2006 9:20:57 PM PST by Shelayne
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To: Shelayne

It would be very smart...

Look at Condi, she majored in Russian History (I think, I know it had to do with Russia)...and now she is the Sec. of State...

Learning different languages would make someone invaluable in Washington and at embassies everywhere.


29 posted on 03/15/2006 9:23:38 PM PST by Txsleuth (Bush-Bot;WaterBucket Brigader;and fan of defconw;Cboldt is my mentor!)
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To: MNJohnnie
I don't think it is wise for the Pentagon, or the Bush administration, to release these documents with commentary on their meaning and significance!

The press will automatically be in anti-Bush reaction mode and do their damnedest to distort their significance as portrayed by the administration....better to just let the tapes and documents be released and let them stand on their own merits, and when the MSM liars try to distort them....then shoot them down with facts.

30 posted on 03/15/2006 9:24:23 PM PST by HardStarboard
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To: MNJohnnie

Did you look at them?

One of them is a threat to the UAE to quit cooperating with us or else.

Huh, imagine that.


31 posted on 03/15/2006 9:24:51 PM PST by eyespysomething
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To: eyespysomething

I like the one that mentions how the international media is a powerful tool for aq to propagandize to muslims.


32 posted on 03/15/2006 9:26:46 PM PST by gotribe (Just tired of going easy on islam)
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To: Txsleuth

Absolutely. Wish I would have had the foresight way back when. I was too interested in "supporting" starving rock musicians. ;^) If I knew THEN what I know now...


33 posted on 03/15/2006 9:27:00 PM PST by Shelayne
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To: Txsleuth

Well, Bush effectively ordered Negoponte to release them, which is why it is finally happened.


34 posted on 03/15/2006 9:31:17 PM PST by rwfromkansas (http://xanga.com/rwfromkansas)
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To: kristinn; iraqikurd

ping


35 posted on 03/15/2006 9:38:46 PM PST by tgslTakoma
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To: eyespysomething

Thank you very much. I just found the link and had not gotten that far. Intresting stuff indeed


36 posted on 03/15/2006 9:40:14 PM PST by MNJohnnie (Are you not entertained? Are you NOT entertained? Is this not what you came here for?)
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To: jmc1969

Thanks for this post, jmc1969. BTTT


37 posted on 03/15/2006 9:42:34 PM PST by Chena (I'm not young enough to know everything.)
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To: binkdeville
Sorry to be so negative but that's what I see.

I tend to agree with your conclusions here but you are guaranteed to lose a fight if you surrender before it starts. The truth doesn't change just because people don't want to hear it.

38 posted on 03/15/2006 9:48:50 PM PST by MNJohnnie (Are you not entertained? Are you NOT entertained? Is this not what you came here for?)
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To: Txsleuth
Learning different languages would make someone invaluable in Washington and at embassies everywhere.

Living in the DC area, I think addition languages would be invaluable when just trying to order at the local McDonald's.

39 posted on 03/15/2006 9:51:06 PM PST by lizma
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To: Shelayne

What station were you listening to when you heard that?


40 posted on 03/15/2006 9:54:26 PM PST by 1035rep
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To: All
Ian Schwartz at 'Expose The Left' has posted audio of the BEST interview yet of former Iraqi General George Sada, author of 'Saddam's Secrets'.

Former Iraqi General Georges Sada, who was a military adviser to Saddam Hussein appeared on The Mike Rosen Show (850 AM KOA) Tuesday March 14th, 2006. He is described as an expert airforce pilot who played a large part in saving coalition pilots' lives in Gulf War I. Sada explains what happened to the WMDs prior to the US led invasion of Iraq in 2003, stopping Saddam’s planned all-out chemical weapons attack on Israel, saving the downed coalition pilots of Gulf War 1 from execution among other interesting topics.

See these two articles at 'Expose The Left' for the audio and all related links.

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Saddam General Explains Saddam’s ‘Secrets’ — WMDs, Bombing Israel, and Genocide (AUDIO) (Part 1) http://exposetheleft.com/2006/03/15/sada-interview/

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MORE: Fmr. Saddam General Sada Talks About Attack Against Israel and Use of WMD (Parts 2 and 3)
http://exposetheleft.com/2006/03/15/sada-interview-2/

Each audio segment is about 20 minutes in duration.

41 posted on 03/15/2006 10:00:55 PM PST by ajolympian2004
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To: ajolympian2004

Thank you for the links


42 posted on 03/15/2006 10:07:23 PM PST by 1035rep
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To: 1035rep

I was listening to Dennis Prager's show, (The Patriot AM1280, Twin Cities) but he had someone filling in for him, maybe Glenn Taylor? Anyway, first he had Stephen Hayes on and then Pete Hoekstra. It was very interesting.

Then all the lefties started calling in saying they "pity you guys on the right. It's almost pathetic really..." I try not to use course language, but that really pissed me off. Put me in the fighting spirit, so to speak.


43 posted on 03/15/2006 10:09:54 PM PST by Shelayne
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To: Txsleuth

You'll have to have more than an Arabic/English dictionary for this task. More like a Klingon/Terran thesaurus.


44 posted on 03/15/2006 10:12:44 PM PST by Sender (As water has no constant form, there are in war no constant conditions. Be without form. -Sun Tzu)
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To: Shelayne

Thank you, I was curious.


45 posted on 03/15/2006 10:20:49 PM PST by 1035rep
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To: Democratshavenobrains
Aren't there literally millions of people in this country who know Arabic? Why can't they just work in shifts of 8 hours a day everyday?

It's not easy and just not safe to translate and drive a cab at the same time ...

(Sorry, no disrespect intended - just stupid Jay Leno style "humor" ...)

46 posted on 03/15/2006 10:40:28 PM PST by SFConservative
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To: jmc1969
Many were in Arabic – with no English translation – including one the administration said showed that Iraqi intelligence officials suspected al-Qaeda members were inside Iraq in 2002.

That information has been on the DoD website for quite some time. A terrorist hideout was found during the Iraq War in the NE part of the country of Iraq, and satellite photos of a terrorist training camp in Salman Pak.

Some of this stuff is probably not new to a great number of people. But, leave it to the AP to give the impression the Bush administration had been fiddling with intelligence information.

47 posted on 03/15/2006 11:03:56 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity.)
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To: All

Too bad the RINO's won't allow the "white flag" ad to be run again on TV

Pass this "white flag" ad around on the internet

http://www.gop.com/Media/120905.wmv



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48 posted on 03/15/2006 11:04:41 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (I've supported the troops, each and every week, since Oct 2001, by actually doing their job)
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To: iraqikurd

Hey J .... what say you? ;*)


49 posted on 03/15/2006 11:21:03 PM PST by Just A Nobody (NEVER AGAIN - Support our troops. I *LOVE* my attitude problem! Beware the Enemedia.)
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To: binkdeville
".The MSM wont have to work hard to surpress any of this , the public won't really care at this point . People like us do but to most it's a closed case. Sorry to be so negative but that's what I see."



To h**l with the MSM.

Use every means available and get the news out to the general public yourself.

Insert the link as a signature in your email account. Curiosity will make most click on it if you add an enticing heading above it.

Don't be defeated so easily. Use the lefties and MSM's ignorance as a challenge.
50 posted on 03/15/2006 11:36:38 PM PST by AmeriBrit (AMERICA's WORST ENEMIES! http://media1.streamtoyou.com/rnc/0519RNCNo-1.wmv)
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