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CA: Border dialogue turns into forum on illegals, fence - San Diego Dialogue Forum Fronterizo
San Diego Union - Tribune ^ | 3/16/06 | Sandra Dibble

Posted on 03/16/2006 9:16:11 AM PST by NormsRevenge

A meeting of civic, business and government leaders from both sides of the border yesterday was intended to foster economic integration of San Diego County and Baja California. But participants in the Forum Fronterizo soon found themselves addressing a very different topic: illegal immigration and the proposal for a new border fence.

“Building a wall is an anachronism,” said Jessie J. Knight Jr., president and chief executive of the San Diego Regional Chamber of Commerce. “Nobody can possibly believe that this is the solution. . . . There are other ways to ensure security.”

The Forum Fronterizo, sponsored by the San Diego Dialogue, a public-policy institute at the University of California San Diego, drew more than 300 participants.

Organizers called for the fomenting of cross-border clusters to develop such industries as software, biomedical devices and pharmaceuticals by drawing on resources on both sides of the border.

The Borderless Innovation project was introduced earlier this year in a San Diego Dialogue report that advocates the creation of a Cross-Border Innovation and Competitiveness Center.

The proposal has won the endorsement of Baja California Gov. Eugenio Elorduy Walther, the keynote speaker at yesterday's event.

“San Diego and Baja California have the potential to become a global showcase for how two nations can collaborate,” Elorduy said.

He also weighed in on the proposed border fence, saying, “We do not best meet these challenges by focusing our energies on building a wall to further divide us.”

The governor said proponents of stricter enforcement shouldn't use the issue “as a political banner because you're in a midterm-election scenario from here to November. . . . Look at it as a human-rights situation.”

The purpose of the Borderless Innovation project is to show that collaboration with Mexico is beneficial for San Diego, said Kenn Morris, project director with San Diego Dialogue.

“It's much more dynamic, and it's in our best interest if we want to compete with the rest of the world,” Morris said. “It's really that regardless of what you think about Mexico or Baja California.”

Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger was invited but was unable to attend. Fabian Nuñez, speaker of the California Assembly, canceled because of negotiations in Sacramento to place a record-setting public bond measure on the June election ballot.

The San Diego Union-Tribune was one of a dozen sponsors of the event. Others included Bajagua LLC, a San Diego County company that wants to build and operate a sewage treatment plant in Tijuana, and the accounting firm Deloitte & Touche.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: aliens; bajacalifornia; bajagua; border; borderlessinnovation; california; chamberofcommerce; dialogue; fence; forum; forumfronterizo; illegals; immigrantlist; mexico; sandiego

1 posted on 03/16/2006 9:16:17 AM PST by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

What a putrid joke.


2 posted on 03/16/2006 9:18:50 AM PST by EagleUSA
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To: NormsRevenge

“Nobody can possibly believe that this is the solution




I believe it's A solution.

A moat filled with Pirranha is another.


3 posted on 03/16/2006 9:19:26 AM PST by trubluolyguy (Islam is a Cult of Death that has been infiltrated by a few non-violent believers.)
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To: trubluolyguy

Great big mole traps for the tunnel diggers is one more solution.


4 posted on 03/16/2006 9:21:22 AM PST by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: cripplecreek

Great big mole traps for the tunnel diggers is one more solution.




Or proximity mines.


5 posted on 03/16/2006 9:22:52 AM PST by trubluolyguy (Islam is a Cult of Death that has been infiltrated by a few non-violent believers.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Jessie J. Knight Jr, CEO, San Diego Regional Chamber of Commerce:

webinfo@sdchamber.org

6 posted on 03/16/2006 9:24:02 AM PST by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: NormsRevenge

The solution is to hire all those unemployed East German border guards and put them to work.


7 posted on 03/16/2006 9:25:37 AM PST by PeterFinn (Anita Bryant was right!)
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To: NormsRevenge
"Building a wall is an anachronism," said Jessie J. Knight Jr., president and chief executive of the San Diego Regional Chamber of Commerce. "Nobody can possibly believe that this is the solution. . . . There are other ways to ensure security."

But are here other ways to ensure that Mexicans obey U.S. immigration law?

Baja California Gov. Eugenio Elorduy Walther weighed in on the proposed border fence, saying, "We do not best meet these challenges by focusing our energies on building a wall to further divide us." The governor said proponents of stricter enforcement shouldn't use the issue "as a political banner because you're in a midterm-election scenario from here to November. . . . Look at it as a human-rights situation."

Look at it as something that must be done because Mexicans have no respect for the sovereignty of the United States.

8 posted on 03/16/2006 9:26:40 AM PST by DumpsterDiver
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To: ncountylee
This fellow is the embodiment of the commercial free traitor class more than happy to Mexicanize your neighborhood so he can move to an even bigger mansion in a both gated and moated community. He will be spieling about the blessings of the borderless border to conclaves of drug cartel bankers and similar shysters as San Diego turns into another and bigger Laredo.
9 posted on 03/16/2006 9:29:50 AM PST by robowombat
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To: NormsRevenge

Organizers called for the fomenting of cross-border clusters to develop such industries as software, biomedical devices and pharmaceuticals by drawing on resources on both sides of the border.

“San Diego and Baja California have the potential to become a global showcase for how two nations can collaborate,” Elorduy said.

Mexico has exactly two resources:  Oil and unskilled labor.  "Collaboration" is mexican for "Foreign remittances".

Owl_Eagle

(If what I just wrote makes you sad or angry,

 it was probably sarcasm)

10 posted on 03/16/2006 9:30:02 AM PST by South Hawthorne (In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: HiJinx

ping


11 posted on 03/16/2006 9:30:14 AM PST by DumpsterDiver
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To: NormsRevenge

Either nuke the rat hole or build twin 15 foot high steel fences with sensors from the Gulf to the Pacific.


12 posted on 03/16/2006 9:32:42 AM PST by GarySpFc (de oppresso liber)
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To: NormsRevenge; HiJinx; gubamyster
“Building a wall is an anachronism,” said Jessie J. Knight Jr., president and chief executive of the San Diego Regional Chamber of Commerce. “Nobody can possibly believe that this is the solution. . . . There are other ways to ensure security.”

Quisling: a synonym for traitor, someone who collaborates with the invaders of his country.

13 posted on 03/16/2006 9:42:13 AM PST by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: NormsRevenge

1. Demand that the military be used to close the borders!
2. Demand the enforcement of ALL immigration laws!
3. Require immediate deportation of ALL illegal entries and visa overstays in our custody.
4. Require ALL employers to use the Social Security 5. Verification System for ALL hires.
6. Deny ALL illegal alien births 'automatic citizenship.'
7. Deny ALL illegal aliens a FREE K-12 education.
8. Deny ALL illegal aliens ANY and ALL 'public benefits.'
9. Deny ALL illegal aliens driver's licenses and in-state college tuition.
10. Deny ALL illegal aliens FREE emergency medical care.
11. Verify ALL voter's citizenship, before permission to vote.

Pretty simple really. We don't even need a wall. If all those things were done they would self deport and quit coming.


14 posted on 03/16/2006 9:46:07 AM PST by sheana
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To: DumpsterDiver; 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; ...

Ping!

One more step toward eliminating the notion of nation.


15 posted on 03/16/2006 12:15:33 PM PST by HiJinx (~ www.proudpatriots.org ~ Serving Those Who Serve Us ~ Operation Easter/Passover ~)
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To: NormsRevenge
Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger was invited but was unable to attend.

Sounds like he's being a girlie-man.
16 posted on 03/16/2006 12:32:43 PM PST by Serenissima Venezia (U.S. a 3rd world soon: not educating enough scientists/engineers and being invaded by illegals)
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To: HiJinx; NormsRevenge; gubamyster; Owl_Eagle; DumpsterDiver; Travis McGee

What we get in return for massive illegal immigration:

Closing hospitals
Increased health care costs.
Overcrowded prisons
Diseases we had all but eradicated
An underground economy
Increased crime
Identity Theft
Higher taxes
More police and schools
Increasing rate of unemployment of Americans
Lower standard of living for many Americans
Draining off of our social benefits
Gangs
Increased terrorism risks
Devaluation of our citizenship
Erosion of our national identity.
Lower tax revenues, since much of their work is off the books.
Smuggling
Increased drug flow
Human slavery and trafficking
Once nice neighborhoods now turned into barrios

To name just a few. Let me know if you can think of any more to add to the list.


17 posted on 03/16/2006 1:23:25 PM PST by TheLion
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To: HiJinx
"...intended to foster economic integration of San Diego County and Baja California."

Is that what they are calling it now? Economic integration? I'd like to integrate my combat boot right up their politician keisters!! Aarrgghh!!!

18 posted on 03/16/2006 1:43:17 PM PST by OB1kNOb (America is the land of the free BECAUSE of the BRAVE !!)
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To: HiJinx
Protect our borders and coastlines from all foreign invaders!

Support our Minutemen Patriots!

Be Ever Vigilant!


19 posted on 03/16/2006 2:14:08 PM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: NormsRevenge

Oh pray tell me when Chambers of Commerce became little more than chamber pots ... of greed, corruption and stupidity.


20 posted on 03/16/2006 9:04:19 PM PST by LNewman
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To: NormsRevenge

San Diego and Baja California have the potential to become a global showcase for how one nation can drag the other into the third world toilet,” Elorduy said.


21 posted on 03/19/2006 1:03:51 PM PST by Ajnin (I)
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