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Drudge Picks Up On Iraq Document Story. Links To Begrudgingly Written ABC Story.
ABC VIA DRUDGE ^ | 03/17/06

Posted on 03/17/2006 6:34:19 AM PST by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

Check This Disclaimer Out:

(Editor's Note: The controversial claim that Osama bin Laden was cooperating with Saddam Hussein is an ongoing matter of intense debate. While the assertions contained in this document clearly support the claim, the sourcing is questionable — i.e. an unnamed Afghan "informant" reporting on a conversation with another Afghan "consul." The date of the document — four days after 9/11 — is worth noting but without further corroboration, this document is of limited evidentiary value.)


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: iraqdocs; terrorconnection
Kicking and screaming!!!!!
1 posted on 03/17/2006 6:34:21 AM PST by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

GOOD JOB jveritas !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


2 posted on 03/17/2006 6:34:59 AM PST by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget (God punishes Conservatives by making them argue with fools.)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

ping for later.


3 posted on 03/17/2006 6:40:36 AM PST by Unkosified (Patiently waiting for Ted Kennedy's manslaughter trial for 36 years now.)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget
(Editor's note: This document indicates that the Iraqis were aware of and interested in reports that members of al Qaeda were present in Iraq in 2002. The document does not support allegations that Iraq was colluding with al Qaeda.)


4 posted on 03/17/2006 6:40:38 AM PST by jdm ("To cure your phone phobia, call us today.")
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

LMAO! Yes, the libs, in standard fashion, are already trying to question the authenticity of ANYTHING that proves them wrong. Expect alot more of it --- squirming like the worms they are...


5 posted on 03/17/2006 6:40:40 AM PST by EagleUSA
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

In other words, ABC is saying: We, like CBS, prefer fake-but-accurate.

or

Maybe ABC could put a disclaimer: Notice--these documents may have been faxed from a Kinko's in Texas and are thus, fake but accurate.


6 posted on 03/17/2006 6:42:05 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget
"While the assertions contained in this document clearly support the claim, the sourcing is questionable — i.e. an unnamed Afghan..."

Hypocrisy! They quote unnamed sources all the time in their articles. What are the NYT/WaPo NSA articles based on? IMHO these sources are just as viable as the NYT/WaPo 'unnamed' sources.

7 posted on 03/17/2006 6:42:18 AM PST by bcsco ("He who is wedded to the spirit of the age is soon a widower" - Anonymous)
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To: bcsco

Bingo!


8 posted on 03/17/2006 6:47:02 AM PST by cvq3842
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget
Free Republic is, as usual, WAY ahead of the curve...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1597946/posts

9 posted on 03/17/2006 6:47:37 AM PST by JennysCool (Liberals don't care what you do, as long as it's mandatory.)
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To: JennysCool

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1597946/posts


10 posted on 03/17/2006 6:48:39 AM PST by gov_bean_ counter (Self appointed RNC Press Secretary for Smarmy Sound Bites.)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

Al Gore is not going to like this one bit.


11 posted on 03/17/2006 6:48:41 AM PST by Unkosified (Patiently waiting for Ted Kennedy's manslaughter trial for 36 years now.)
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To: JennysCool; jveritas

Not only ahead of the curve, jveritas is the originator of this story having done the first translation. The story then exploded on the blogs, and now the MSM is forced into covering it. The reason I posted this is the disclaimer ABC put with the story. They don't like this. No sir, no maam, they don't like having to cover the story one bit.

See: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1597459/posts


12 posted on 03/17/2006 6:52:27 AM PST by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget (God punishes Conservatives by making them argue with fools.)
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To: Unkosified

March 16, 2006 — Following are the ABC News Investigative Unit's summaries of four of the nine Iraqi documents from Saddam Hussein's government, which were released by the U.S. government Wednesday.

The documents discuss Osama bin Laden, weapons of mass destruction, al Qaeda and more.

The full documents can be found on the U.S. Army Foreign Military Studies Office Web site: http://fmso.leavenworth.army.mil/products-docex.htm.

Note: Document titles were added by ABC News.

"Osama bin Laden and the Taliban"


Document dated Sept. 15, 2001

An Iraqi intelligence service document saying that their Afghani informant, who's only identified by a number, told them that the Afghani Consul Ahmed Dahastani claimed the following in front of him:

That OBL and the Taliban are in contact with Iraq and that a group of Taliban and bin Laden group members visited Iraq.
That the U.S. has proof the Iraqi government and "bin Laden's group" agreed to cooperate to attack targets inside America.
That in case the Taliban and bin Laden's group turn out to be involved in "these destructive operations," the U.S. may strike Iraq and Afghanistan.
That the Afghani consul heard about the issue of Iraq's relationship with "bin Laden's group" while he was in Iran.

At the end, the writer recommends informing "the committee of intentions" about the above-mentioned items. The signature on the document is unclear.


(Editor's Note: The controversial claim that Osama bin Laden was cooperating with Saddam Hussein is an ongoing matter of intense debate. While the assertions contained in this document clearly support the claim, the sourcing is questionable — i.e. an unnamed Afghan "informant" reporting on a conversation with another Afghan "consul." The date of the document — four days after 9/11 — is worth noting but without further corroboration, this document is of limited evidentiary value.)

-snip-

THE "EDITOR" IS OBVIOUSLY A LIBERAL WEENIE.


13 posted on 03/17/2006 6:53:43 AM PST by rightinthemiddle (The Liberals/Media Hate Us Just as Much as They Hate Bush.)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

The MSM wants to slide this in under the radar. If the Bush Administration, and RNC let's them. This is the penalty for having hung on to this information for so long because of its alleged "actionable intelligence" value, which I can't see from reading the story. I just loved the "limited evidentiary value" statement. Jamie Gorelick must be working for ABC News. If this document mentioned Bush Administration cooperation with Saddam you could bet it would be treated like solid gold. The only real issue is the "provenance". If someone wishes to say that the Bush Administration manufactured the document, let them prove it, but if the this document is genuine, then it clearly indicates that at some levels Iraqi intelligence had reason to believe that the Saddam Hussein government had contact with UBL and Al Qaeda. That flies in the face of ABC News, Hollywood and Michael Moore "conventional wisdom". No credible (or "fair and balanced) news organization should let this slide just because ABC News doesn't think it would stand up in a US Court. You've got to wonder if this wasn't what Dick Cheney had in mind when he said there was other information that pointed to a Saddam/Al Qaeda link.


14 posted on 03/17/2006 6:54:09 AM PST by pawdoggie
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To: pawdoggie
No credible (or "fair and balanced) news organization should let this slide

If they do, then Freepers need to start posting it on every message board and blog we can find.

15 posted on 03/17/2006 7:03:56 AM PST by Unkosified (Patiently waiting for Ted Kennedy's manslaughter trial for 36 years now.)
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To: rightinthemiddle
Editor's Note: The controversial claim that Osama bin Laden was cooperating with Saddam Hussein is an ongoing matter of intense debate wishful thinking on the part of the media.
16 posted on 03/17/2006 7:08:00 AM PST by Steely Tom (Your taboos are not my taboos.)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget
Questionable Sources

And Big Media act with impunity when questioned about their own 'confidential' sources.

When can we expect the RNC and Republican Leadership to push the truth to the surface and educate the sheeple?

17 posted on 03/17/2006 7:13:47 AM PST by TexasCajun
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To: Steely Tom

You got that right. Amazing.


18 posted on 03/17/2006 7:15:03 AM PST by rightinthemiddle (The Liberals/Media Hate Us Just as Much as They Hate Bush.)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

But they'll ballyhoo about and wave in the air any document that slams the Bush Administration "from unamed sources".............


19 posted on 03/17/2006 7:24:22 AM PST by Red Badger (And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him...)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

Perhaps they would consider it more authoritative had it been written in Microsoft Word 35 years ago.


20 posted on 03/17/2006 7:27:23 AM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget
While the assertions contained in this document clearly support the claim, the sourcing is questionable

As opposed to Michael Mooron! Their cliches are about to get busted.

Pray for W and Our Amazing Troops

21 posted on 03/17/2006 7:27:41 AM PST by bray (Proud Bushbot for 6 years going on 8)
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To: pawdoggie
"No credible (or "fair and balanced) news organization should let this slide..."

Fox News had a report on this last evening on 'Special Report', and then later on Sheperd Smith's show. I guess we'll see how much further traction it gets.

22 posted on 03/17/2006 7:29:32 AM PST by bcsco ("He who is wedded to the spirit of the age is soon a widower" - Anonymous)
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To: rightinthemiddle
Actually, this would have been better:

Editor's Note: The controversial claim that Osama bin Laden was cooperating with Saddam Hussein is an ongoing matter of intense debate denial within the media.

These are the same people who put out the phony Bush TNG story, the phony Koran flushing story, the phony Bush is a cokehead story, the phony Bush is going to artificially drive down the price of oil to win the 2004 election story, the phony civil war is breaking out in Iraq story, the phony Al Gore really won Florida story, the phony John Kerry really won Ohio story, the phony Valerie Plame was outed as a covert CIA agent story, the phony George Bush did nothing while tens of thousands died in New Orleans story, the phony Bush got us into the Iraq war under false pretenses story. But hey, don't anyone accuse them of rushing off to the presses with anything controversial. At least anything controversial that might help the President.

(steely)

23 posted on 03/17/2006 7:36:02 AM PST by Steely Tom (Your taboos are not my taboos.)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

There are over 35,000 boxes of this material. My prediction is that even if there are more relelations that support the administration the Dinosaur Media will still deny it on page 28 of the NYT.


24 posted on 03/17/2006 7:46:46 AM PST by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget
Haha...did ABC qualify their initial coverage of the fake CBS National Guard documents?

Haha, whatever.

Honestly, I'd tend to believe some Afghan Hillbilly before I would some MSM dullard.
25 posted on 03/17/2006 7:52:01 AM PST by VaBthang4 ("He Who Watches Over Israel Will Neither Slumber Nor Sleep")
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To: rightinthemiddle
You're link is not working properly some reason.

There is a ton of information on the website.

I sure hope Fox News starts dedicating time for these documents and recordings, forcing the Old Media to react!

26 posted on 03/17/2006 7:53:14 AM PST by TexasCajun
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

OMG is that disclaimer for real? In the MSM?


27 posted on 03/17/2006 7:54:30 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: TexasCajun

http://fmso.leavenworth.army.mil/products-docex.htm

It had a trailing period. That one should work.


28 posted on 03/17/2006 7:56:07 AM PST by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget (God punishes Conservatives by making them argue with fools.)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

And did you read where Curt Weldon has pronounced OBL DOA in Iran?


29 posted on 03/17/2006 8:07:18 AM PST by TexasCajun
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

Bttt.


30 posted on 03/17/2006 8:14:15 AM PST by OKSooner
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To: TexasCajun

I copied it from the ABC site. Perhaps they don't want it to work.


31 posted on 03/17/2006 8:20:12 AM PST by rightinthemiddle (The Liberals/Media Hate Us Just as Much as They Hate Bush.)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget; All

Good God. I just went in and looked at a few of the documents at random in this link provided by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget:

http://fmso.leavenworth.army.mil/products-docex.htm

I had not seen any of these documents. This is an unbelievable treasure trove of documents...it shows a window into the mindset of the enemy. The American public needs to know more about this!!!!!


32 posted on 03/17/2006 8:58:44 AM PST by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

Bumpity bump!


33 posted on 03/17/2006 9:47:35 AM PST by Enterprise (The MSM - Propaganda wing and news censorship division of the Democrat Party.)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

Thanks :)


34 posted on 03/17/2006 12:22:35 PM PST by jveritas (Hate can never win elections.)
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To: Unkosified
Al Gore is not going to like this one bit.


35 posted on 03/17/2006 12:24:58 PM PST by New Perspective (Proud father of an 2 year old son with Down Syndrome)
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