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Document: Zarqawi in Iraq Long Before the War Started (See translation and interesting finds)
Pentagon/FMSO Pre-war Iraq documents ^ | March/17/06 | jveritas

Posted on 03/17/2006 10:37:56 AM PST by jveritas

In regards to the Iraqi intelligence documents that discussed Al Zarqawi presence in Iraq, as posted on the Foreign Miliarty Services Office (FMSO) website (document ISGZ-2004-019920 ) it appears that the some in the Iraqi intelligence apparatus provided the accurate information about Zarqawi presence in Iraq with attached pictures of him, but when the information reached the Director or a Director of the Iraqi intelligence he dismissed it as not accurate. This is interesting since it seems there was an intended cover up by this top Iraqi Intelligence officer about the presence of Zarqawi in Iraq despite the much stronger evidence that he was already in Iraq.

I am posting below the translation of the FMSO document ISGZ-2004-019920 and I will make it in a chronological order and please note that I put illegible word(s) when the word(s) in the pdf document is(are) very blur and cannot be read with accuracy and that it is hand writing documents and not printed so it make difficult to read some of the words:

Page 7 of the pdf document: This is a letter from an Iraqi intelligence officer dated August/7/2002 (7/8/2002 per Iraqi date numbering system) talking about the presence of individuals from Al Qaeda inside Iraq and that they possess multiple passports. The has attached pictures of Ahmad Fadil Nazal AlKhalayla that we know him by his nick name of Zarqawi (Abu Musaab Al Zarqawi) and some other individual.

Page 7 translation:

Secretary 384 7/8/2002

In the name of God the Merciful

From I.M 53/1/5

Document No 513387 per our letter 3077 in 23/6/2002 and in reference to proclamation illegible number numbered 9096 in 8/1/2002. Information are available from a trusted source about the individual existence of illegible word our letter above inside the country and they are accused of dealing with the Al Qaeda organization that is lead by the Saudi Osama Bin Laden and they possess more than one passport. illegible word to the respectful Mr. Director of the apparatus illegible word 515 to direct your sources to track the existence of the people mentioned above within your work domain and inform us in case you prove this 515. illegible words your view to inspect the pictures of those mentioned with the pictures of the Jordanian community with your work domain 535 illegible word tourist hotels, residential apartments, rented homes. Relate the subject illegible words with our boss.


End of page 7 translation

Page 4, 5, and 6 of the pdf document were the attachments that the Iraqi intelligence officer attached to his letter and it contain pictures of two individuals and one of them ispage Ahmad Fadil Nazal AlKhalayla or better know to us a Zarqawi (pages 4 and 5).

Page 8 is very illegible, page 9 is almost blank with a foot note saying “Regarding the possibility of Al Qaeda individuals entering the country”, and page 10 is a blank cover letter with no writing on it ( On the right hand corner it is written “ The Iraqi Republic Presidency of the Republic, Intelligence Service).

Page 2: This a letter from intelligence officer R.K dated on 17/8/2002 asking the Director to review the information in the letter from I.M 53/1/5 (Letter posted, translation of page 7) because they (R.K group) claim that do not have any indication of the existence of such individuals of Al Qaeda in Iraq.

Page 2 translation:

Please review regarding the letter of M 53/1/5 3387 in 7/8/2002. Upon further inspection of the information in it, we have no indication about this and therefore we suggest answering M 53. With regards

Signature R.K 17/8/2002

End of page 2 translation .

The “it” in the above refer to letter of M 53 and the “this” refer to the information about Al Qaeda members entering Iraq.

Page 3 is a reply to the letter of R.K from the Director Ismail Mohamad (Initial M.I or I.M) and basically it says that after they inspected the content of the letter from M 53 they found no indication of the existence of these individuals within the public.

Translation of the letter in page 3

To the respectful Mr. R.K

M.I Reply

We would like to show you the following:

1. We received the letter of M 53/1/5 numbered 3387 on 7/8/2002 in regards of the existence of members from Al Qaeda organization in the country.

2. From the inspection of the information through our sources and friends within our domain and also bureau (3) we have no indication of the existence of the mentioned individuals within the Public.

Please review.. and we suggest to put the letter aside.. with regards


Secretary for Ismail Mouhamad


End of page 3 translation.

Now in page 1 you will find the answer from I.M 53/4 (The Director) to the I.M 53/1/5 who is wrote the original letter about AL Qaeda member in Iraq. Again the letter from the Director says that there is no indication of Al Qaeda members in Iraq.

Translation of page 1

Secret and Immediate Letter

To I.M 53/1/5

From I.M 53/4

Document number 15701 and your letter numbered 3501 in 15/8/2002, we have directed our sources and there was no indication for us about this. We will provide you with the latest in case we receive it. Finished

Secretary 17/8 Youssef 17/8


M 53/4


End of page 1 translation

It seems to me that the lower branch of the Iraqi intelligence provided accurate information about the presence of Zarqawi and AL Qaeda members in Iraq but for some reason it was quickly dismissed by another higher branch in the intelligence service as if they want to cover this up and not follow through on it.

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21 posted on 03/18/2006 7:08:04 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: jveritas
You're doing a great job. How is it that the US government couldn't find and translate these documents?
22 posted on 03/18/2006 8:13:58 AM PST by Decepticon (The sheep pretend the wolf will never come, but the sheepdog lives for that day (NRA)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; eyespysomething

Thanks for the pings! Saved

23 posted on 03/18/2006 10:18:21 AM PST by Just A Nobody (NEVER AGAIN - Support our troops. I *LOVE* my attitude problem! Beware the Enemedia.)
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24 posted on 03/18/2006 10:23:15 AM PST by cgk (I don't see myself as a conservative. I see myself as a religious, right-wing, wacko extremist.)
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25 posted on 03/18/2006 5:05:49 PM PST by infidel29 ("We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid." --Benjamin Franklin)
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Could you please add me to your pre-war docs ping list.

26 posted on 03/21/2006 5:53:24 PM PST by darthxenu
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To: Calpernia

Is your bump on CA's I-58 that makes you go "Weeeeeee"?

27 posted on 03/21/2006 5:59:39 PM PST by BobS
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28 posted on 03/21/2006 6:00:42 PM PST by Calpernia (
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More excellent circumstantial evidence, that, if anything, we'll never really fully know just how bad Saddam really was, and just how many of his secret black projects had a direct bearing on not only 9/11 but also attacks prior to that. The inklings we are getting tell me that he was doing more against us than is apparent on the surface. We waited too long to go after him, IMHO. I would have started the war a year earlier at the latest, but ideally, I would have started it after WTC-1.

29 posted on 03/22/2006 3:17:04 PM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: Calpernia
The pic you posted here looks and feels familiar:

30 posted on 03/22/2006 6:05:53 PM PST by BobS
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I know what post you responded to.

My question marks were representative of 'what are you talking about?'

31 posted on 03/22/2006 6:12:41 PM PST by Calpernia (
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The general feeling of weightlesness after driving over a slope. I know it isn't the topic of the post. I know this area. I was talking about 32ft/sec^2 velocity as in free fall and the feeling you get without gravity. I didn't think it was rare. Or my non-specific language to blame here?

I can do dv/dt and derive acceleration also.

Now we are going into a place I don't have time to explain tonight.

32 posted on 03/22/2006 8:32:17 PM PST by BobS
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I don't free fall. I do have sea legs.

33 posted on 03/22/2006 8:33:54 PM PST by Calpernia (
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Thanks for the ping!

34 posted on 03/22/2006 9:45:29 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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35 posted on 09/15/2006 5:41:46 PM PDT by G Larry (Only strict constructionists on the Supreme Court!)
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