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Attacks on sheep anger ranchers
The Billings Gazette ^ | 3/17/2006 | MIKE STARK

Posted on 03/17/2006 8:07:04 PM PST by george76

Wolves, wolf-hybrids suspected culprits in bloody predations...

his herd of 700 sheep.

But something had gotten there before him. Everywhere he looked, it seemed, there was a sheep that had been attacked and bloodied.

"It was terrible," he said. "Some of them just had a chunk of flesh tore out, in some cases clear to the bone, the size of an orange.

A few were bit in the neck."

A few of the sheep could be doctored, but many of them died... of the 60 that were attacked, 21 died and 39 were injured.

On top of that, the percentage of ewes with twins dropped from a typical 45 to 55 percent to around 20 percent, which will mean a serious blow to his business.

"I think that trauma had a lot to do with it,"

That attack and five others...wolves...

"It's lambing and calving time," ...

"There are a lot of people that can't sleep nights because they're worried about their livestock."

Wildlife Services, the federal agency that's paid to deal with wild animals that cause trouble, has been looking for the culprit for weeks. Initially, investigators thought domestic dogs were to blame.

But after inspecting bite marks and kill patterns from attacks in February and March, they decided it was probably a wolf or wolf-hybrid.

The tracks, although small for a wolf, are too big for a coyote, Sime said.

A trapper for McCone County reported that he saw a wolf in the area last month but, because wolves are a federally protected species, he was not given authorization to shoot.

The sheep deaths have also reignited long-running opposition to the wolf reintroduction program in Yellowstone National Park 11 years ago and even prompted a few accusations that wolves had been transplanted secretly to Eastern Montana.

(Excerpt) Read more at billingsgazette.net ...


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1 posted on 03/17/2006 8:07:06 PM PST by george76
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2 posted on 03/17/2006 8:10:03 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

They'll being killing children before anything is done about it.


3 posted on 03/17/2006 8:10:17 PM PST by ElkGroveDan (California bashers will be called out)
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To: george76
It's El Chupacabra!!!


4 posted on 03/17/2006 8:12:28 PM PST by JRios1968 (A DUmmie troll's motto: "Non cogito, ergo zot")
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To: george76

OH NO, NOT ANOTHER BROKEBACK THREAD...


5 posted on 03/17/2006 8:13:26 PM PST by durasell (!)
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To: george76

Another chupacabra show guaranteed on coast-to-coast/Art Bell


6 posted on 03/17/2006 8:14:18 PM PST by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: george76

Brokeback Mountaineers?
Those people are just catching up to us here in the east. We had to give up on raising sheep years ago. Our coyotes are 3 or 4 times as large as those puny western ones. Unless you keep the sheep right under the porch or have a guard dog with them, the coyotes will wipe you out.


7 posted on 03/17/2006 8:16:00 PM PST by Past Your Eyes (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it.)
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

The investigative journalist will have an eye witness that'll say it looked like some kind of conspiracy with a government agency.


8 posted on 03/17/2006 8:17:58 PM PST by jazusamo (:Gregory was riled while Hume smiled:)
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To: JRios1968

It's causing Bird Flu and it's Bush's fault!

</pyschotic episode>

"Guns prevent Predation. Any Questions? No? Good. On to Chapter two...."


9 posted on 03/17/2006 8:21:12 PM PST by Danae (Anál nathrach, orth' bháis's bethad, do chél dénmha)
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To: Past Your Eyes

These eco-terrorist with their wolf, coyote, and bear releases will be the end for many a family farmer and family rancher.


10 posted on 03/17/2006 8:24:04 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: durasell
OH NO, NOT ANOTHER BROKEBACK THREAD...

You rang? Sorry it took us so long, we were kinda "busy"...

11 posted on 03/17/2006 8:26:21 PM PST by JRios1968 (A DUmmie troll's motto: "Non cogito, ergo zot")
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To: Past Your Eyes
(1)Five gallon bucket
(2)Several chicken livers
(3)One large coniebear trap
(4)=dead coyote
12 posted on 03/17/2006 8:28:42 PM PST by org.whodat
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To: george76

No mention of any type of sheep dog , donkey, llama or other kind of protection being used with the sheep. I believe a rancher has a right to protect his livestock, but I think they should at least try preemptive measures.


13 posted on 03/17/2006 8:28:57 PM PST by Americanchild (..and deliver us all from Islam! Amen!)
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To: george76

**There is no arguing with this cowboy logic.**



** A few years ago, the Sierra Club and the US Forest Service were
presenting an alternative to Wyoming ranchers for controlling the
coyote population. It seems that after years of the ranchers using
the tried and true methods of shooting and/or trapping the
predator, the tree-huggers had a "more humane" solution. **

**What they proposed was for the animals to be captured alive, the
males castrated and let loose again and the population would be
controlled. This was ACTUALLY proposed to the Wyoming Wool and Sheep**

** Grower's Association by the Sierra Club and the USFS. All of the
ranchers thought about this amazing idea for a couple of minutes. **

** **

**Finally, an old boy in the back stood up, tipped his hat back and
said, "Son, I don't think you understand the problem. Those coyotes
ain't *uckin' our sheep - they're eatin' 'em."**


14 posted on 03/17/2006 8:30:56 PM PST by charrisGOP (Famous last words: I’ll get right with God later...)
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To: JRios1968

 

"Say, I've found a perfect spot to catch us a bear."

"How can you be sure?"

"I saw a sign that said Fine for Hunting."


15 posted on 03/17/2006 8:32:39 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

Soitenly!!


16 posted on 03/17/2006 8:34:17 PM PST by JRios1968 (A DUmmie troll's motto: "Non cogito, ergo zot")
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To: org.whodat

17 posted on 03/17/2006 8:34:40 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: ElkGroveDan

Many ranchers do not go out of their homes unarmed.

They do not let the kids go out and play in their yards, unsupervised.

And no one goes out at night.

Not just wolf packs, but also bears, mountain lions...


18 posted on 03/17/2006 8:38:22 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

Ted Turner should be tarred and feathered.


19 posted on 03/17/2006 8:40:48 PM PST by texasmountainman (proud father of a U.S. Marine)
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To: charrisGOP
A bear might be responsible. (Bad plush-animal-joke warning.)
20 posted on 03/17/2006 8:42:13 PM PST by NewRomeTacitus
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To: JRios1968

I'm not up to speed with pulp culture, but what is up with those sideburns?


21 posted on 03/17/2006 8:43:30 PM PST by katykelly (Long suffering Husker)
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To: Past Your Eyes

"Our coyotes are 3 or 4 times as large as those puny western ones. Unless you keep the sheep right under the porch or have a guard dog with them, the coyotes will wipe you out."

There's a ranch about 1/4 mile from me and from time to time in the middle of the night I'll hear the Coyotes going Yip, Yip, Yip and the cattle going nuts and then I hear BLAM! Everything gets quiet after that. The Llama ranchers in the mountain use Great Pyrenees dogs and even the mountain lions steer clear of them


22 posted on 03/17/2006 8:45:06 PM PST by dljordan
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To: george76

I know. I used to live there.


23 posted on 03/17/2006 8:47:00 PM PST by ElkGroveDan (California bashers will be called out)
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To: katykelly

I have a theory, but stating it could get me banned...


24 posted on 03/17/2006 8:48:16 PM PST by JRios1968 (A DUmmie troll's motto: "Non cogito, ergo zot")
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To: george76

Wow, how did they get past the gaurd dogs? Or is that too old school?


25 posted on 03/17/2006 8:50:28 PM PST by glorgau
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To: NewRomeTacitus

Was it sold out before you posted a link on FR?

Just askin'...


26 posted on 03/17/2006 8:51:17 PM PST by null and void (Sept 11th: National Moderate Muslim Day of Tacit Approval)
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To: katykelly
I'm not up to speed with pulp culture, but what is up with those sideburns?

Dunno. Are those mutton chops?

27 posted on 03/17/2006 8:53:56 PM PST by null and void (Sept 11th: National Moderate Muslim Day of Tacit Approval)
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To: null and void
I don't know...just being silly with Google searching. It was either that or

"Do you still hear the screaming, Clarice..."
HannibalLecter
"the screaming of the lambs?"

28 posted on 03/17/2006 8:55:00 PM PST by NewRomeTacitus
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To: george76

Sounds more like dogs than wolves. Wolves are efficient killers and usually eat their prey. Dogs will kill multiple animals for pleasure.

LGDs such as Anatolians or Pyrennees should be with the flocks. A pyr can defeat a mountain lion. Better a pair of pyrs for wolves and coyotes.


29 posted on 03/17/2006 8:58:46 PM PST by Poincare
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To: dljordan
The Llama ranchers in the mountain use Great Pyrenees dogs and even the mountain lions steer clear of them

Gotta love em. Lots of ranchers around here use those huge white dogs ...and we've seen many a dead coyote hanging on the fence rows, due to their effectiveness.

The coyotes are so numerous and brazen... they come right into the yard during the day. I'm not complaining though...it gives me target practice. :)

30 posted on 03/17/2006 8:59:22 PM PST by LaineyDee (Don't mess with Texas wimmen!)
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To: ElkGroveDan

"of the 60 that were attacked, 21 died and 39 were injured..."

Does that sound like a pack of wolves ?


31 posted on 03/17/2006 9:00:42 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: NewRomeTacitus

LOL


32 posted on 03/17/2006 9:08:20 PM PST by charrisGOP (Famous last words: I’ll get right with God later...)
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To: LaineyDee

Near to my house here in Texas one of the ranchers has a flock of sheep. He has a couple of Great Pyrenees that guard them. I stopped one day to admire the dogs from a distance. They ran up to me about 20 feet away and just sat down and looked at me. They were between myself and the sheep. They were not aggressive nor threatening. However, it was very plain what they meant. "Do Not Get Near the Sheep."

Those are good dogs.


33 posted on 03/17/2006 9:09:08 PM PST by cpdiii (roughneck (oil field trash and proud of it), geologist, pilot, pharmacist, full time iconoclast)
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To: texasmountainman
After the family is put out of business, Ted Turner will steal the ranch.

Then Ted will set up an eco-ranch for his rich, elite, liberal, hollywood wack jobs to find some "sanctuary."
34 posted on 03/17/2006 9:25:03 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

If those sheep herders would spent less time in their pup tents going brokeback, the sheeps would be safer.


Hmmmm, or maybe not.


35 posted on 03/17/2006 9:57:23 PM PST by bannedfromdu
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To: org.whodat

"(1)Five gallon bucket
(2)Several chicken livers
(3)One large coniebear trap
(4)=dead coyote"

My guess is that more and more ranchers are going to be placing orders for cyanide.


36 posted on 03/17/2006 10:15:20 PM PST by CheyennePress
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To: cpdiii
Those are good dogs

Yes they are. Our neighbor now has 4 of them.....and I have no clue as to how he feeds those things! They're huge.

Chewey was the first male dog they placed to guard the geese. He would sit in the middle of the road and make everyone drive around him. If you stopped...he would come up to the car and stick his massive head in the window to look you over.

Someone stole Chewey and the whole neighborhood grieved. They bought 3 new pups...but a few months later...Chewey showed up again. I guess the food bill was a bit more than the thieves bargained for. *chuckle*

37 posted on 03/17/2006 10:25:34 PM PST by LaineyDee (Don't mess with Texas wimmen!)
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To: george76
This has to be from citified banger wolf hybrids, because no self respecting wolf is just going to take one bite out of a sheep.

Its probably more a feral pack of wild dogs.

W.
38 posted on 03/17/2006 10:57:43 PM PST by RunningWolf (Vet US Army Air Cav 1975)
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To: RunningWolf
The Canadian wolves that were placed in Yellowstone and Idaho are twice as large as the native wolves that once roamed the area. They attack livestock as an amusement. It isn't a matter of killing for food. Elk, deer and moose have been decimated in Idaho by wolves. I visit Yellowstone every two weeks from April until November. I have yet to see a moose there. Locals says the wolves have killed all of them.
39 posted on 03/17/2006 11:10:25 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: Myrddin
I did not know that about the Canadian releases.

Actually on a more serious take, I have read of various predators just partially eating (sometimes very partially) eating the kill.

I just did a search and they have released several packs since 1996, and as you say at least one pack is of Canadian origin.

W.
40 posted on 03/17/2006 11:32:35 PM PST by RunningWolf (Vet US Army Air Cav 1975)
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To: Poincare
Wolves will eat their kill if afforded an opportunity to do so. A lone wolf is not capable of eating a sheep whole at once. Wolf studies have shown that wolves will feed on a kill, leave the kill, travel away, rest, and return to a kill and if opportunity affords a chance at another kill, they will take it, though a fresh kill is waiting elsewhere.

At one time, there was a sort of unwritten law of the range that no rancher would knowingly pass by a carcass of any kind without inserting in it a dose of strychnine sulfate. I imagine a poisoned carcass would offer them a clue to whatever is destroying their property.

41 posted on 03/18/2006 5:26:28 AM PST by Simo Hayha (An education is incomplete without instruction in the use of arms to defend against harm.)
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To: george76
"of the 60 that were attacked, 21 died and 39 were injured..." Does that sound like a pack of wolves ?

Sounds more like a pack of dogs to me, they have been known to kill/maim for the fun of it. Wolves usually just kill what they need to eat.

42 posted on 03/18/2006 9:36:06 AM PST by Mogollon
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