Posted on 03/17/2006 9:25:41 PM PST by peyton randolph
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Economic patriotism means, I gather, kicking Toyota and Nissan out of the U.S. Yes, what an unfair advantage these manufacturers have down there in Tennessee and Alabama. Their workers actually show up for work. Imagine that! They have an average daily absentee rate of 2%. Up in Michigan, Buchanan country, the average daily absentee rate in a union auto factory is 10% to 12%. But lets bring this back in the name of economic patriotism.
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Lets dissect his phrase, economic patriotism... what is that? In Buchanans world, it means shutting down free trade. The last time economic patriotism was tried, in 1930, well, you know the result.
what a wild bunch,
Pat Buchanan,Chuck Schumer,Mark Levin.
And of course Pat would just love to get rid of all the JOOOOOOOOOS.
Bullshit.
My problem with economic patriotism is that it usually means that people with no real interest in a business want to tell it what it can do. When I used my money and talent to start and develop a business I did not regard it as an American business. It was mine.
Your posts are always so amusing. I picture an angry man with a framed photo of Paleo Pat sitting next to the keyboard...one hand typing away...and the other holding a Brigadier Pitchfork.
Correct; and the loudest ones are the ones whose "business" is selling themselves.
At your expense.
Of course, Pat wants us to return to the old days, when my ancestors worked in smelly factories, lived in row houses and tenements, but at least they were loyal to their parishes (an important point for the Paleos).
Pat's business experience consists of working for the media and creating a fundraising machine based on duping paleos to send him money. Ayn Rand referred to the Pats of the world as second-handers. Other examples include Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Bill Clinton, etc.
"If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your consul, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains set lightly upon you; and may posterity forget ye were our countrymen."-- Samuel Adams
You seem to forget freedom also means buying things from whom I choose, selling things to whom I choose and working for whom I choose without others dictating the terms.
You seem to be the one trading individual freedom for the illusion of security via unions and trade barriers.
In Patty's world, the President of Iran is just that guy who's only threatening Israel and not us, and besides it's all their fault anyway.
lol
Very well, then.
Legalize drugs and prostitution.
The more people like you are driven to spouting panicky hyperbole at the mere mention of Pat's name, the more I believe Pat has you all figured out.
Isolationist mouth-breather place-marker.
People like me?
Does that mean
(a) I'm Jewish?
(b) I'm a neocon, i.e. same as (a).
(c) I'm hispanic
or
(d) all of the above.
When you determine which of the above I'm guilty of, feel free to point the way to the crematoriums.
BMW, Michelin Toyota, Nissan and Honda haven't been arming themselves with an eye on America, as far as I know. Big Difference. They haven't been aiding and supplying terrorists either, unless I missed something.
"Lets dissect his phrase, economic patriotism... what is that? In Buchanans world, it means shutting down free trade. The last time economic patriotism was tried, in 1930, well, you know the result."
Amen! All you FR isolationists need some World History in the worst way!!!!! Great highlight Howlin!
LLS
I lost ALL respect for Sam when I first tasted that swill he markets as beer!
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I am happy to support any business whose business is not done at my uncompensated expense.
--I am happy to support any business whose business is not done at my uncompensated expense.
Under capitalism? Whatever. My daddy always told me no one owes me a living.
If a business is doing business by, say, creating a lot of noise outside my home, that constitutes an expense (of peace of mind) on my part. If I get nothing for the existence of that business other than headaches, this is an example of a parasitic business model, which I do not support. On the other hand, this exact same business in a different place, where it did not involve this cost to uncompensated others, would get my full support.
Buchanan has actualy been very, very successful in the private sector for many years. I'm not quite sure what you are talking about here. He has written books, launched his own television shows, radio shows, a magazine, and written his own newspaper column for years. You may not respect his opinions, but you should respect his hard work and initiative if nothing else.
The most original defense of outsourcing I've ever read.
It doesn't really matter.
The personal invectives hurled by neocons are indistinguishable from those of the neo-marxists.
And that's just one of many reasons why America is getting fed-up with the Bush Administration's globalization policies.
That's the most original misinterpretation of one of my posts I've seen in quite some time.
Doesn't matter, in the real world communities welcome business into their area, even when they are foreign owned and attempt to mitigate any annoyances created.
Well this, "any business whose business is not done at my uncompensated expense", does definately not include the biggest business in America which Uncle Sam runs totally and completely at taxpayers expense.
Most over-rated beer on the face of the planet. Even drinking it from a tap doesn't help . . . rare, indeed.
Source: The Heritage Foundation
Uh they(the UAE) weren't going to "run" the ports. The union thugs do that.
In the real world, communities welcome business into their area with a LOT of conditions, all of which you are ignoring in your radical oversimplification. Aren't too many communities which would welcome, say, a porn business, even though it brought money and jobs into the area.
--In the real world, communities welcome business into their area with a LOT of conditions, all of which you are ignoring in your radical oversimplification. Aren't too many communities which would welcome, say, a porn business, even though it brought money and jobs into the area.
Not my "radical simplifications", your simple examples. That type of counter-argument can be put to any social proposal.
Who compensates the government for loss of tariff revenues due to "free trade"?
Patsy, however, had absolutely nothing to do with the Dubai port decision. In fact, if he had been the opposition spokesman, it would have been approved by Congress because of him. He's claiming credit after the fact.
The Dubai deal was DOA because of a coalition of opportunistic Democrats trying to look tough on national security, Rep. King and his longshoremen buddies, and Republicans who were either actually concerned about national security or afraid of what the issue would do to their re-election chances this fall.
Pat claiming credit for anything is like the DU moonbats blaming Bush for everything.
Great sadness in the increases in decadent borgeous excess. Those damn capitalists and their high standards of living, high productivity, and overall contentment! How dare they work hard and enjoy the fruits of their labor while Buchananites and liberals everywhere moan, complain and generally wallow in their self-imposed misery? Why oh why won't the government force others to be as unhappy and useless?
Bush didn't know what a veto pen was until his Dubai deal was threatened.
I contacted my congressman immediately ... and so did thousands like me.
At face value it simply did NOT make sense. And instead of reconsidering Bush takes a "hard line" approach for a change. But Bush took a hard line approach against me, a Republican. Wooooo! I'm so scared! That was enough for me.
When he takes his "veto pen" and uses it on a budget for once I might forgive him for this Dubai deal.
I voted for the man twice. But I've had it up to my eyebrows with Bush and his seemingly unending missteps when it comes to who and for what he decides to play "hardball".
(a) I'm Jewish?
(b) I'm a neocon, i.e. same as (a).
(c) I'm hispanic
or
(d) all of the above
Careful--
People might think your reply to me is like my friend Tommy's reply to our principal during our schooldays.
Someone had broken the schoolhouse windows.
So the principal asked a bunch of us standing nearby if we were throwing rocks that day.
And Tommy blurted out: "We wasn't shooting no BB gun."
Tommy's guilty conscience told the principal something he didn't suspect.
See, there you go again.
I must be touching some tender nerve in you or a guilty conscience.
'Cause it's YOU who keeps suggesting a certain race or races are to blame.
Pat Buchanan's biggest problem is that he has done an awful lot to destroy his own credibility. When a guy driving a Mercedes-Benz made in Germany mounts a "populist" presidential campaign by railing against Japanese companies that builds their cars in Ohio or Tennessee, it's easy to see why a lot of people have a hard time taking him seriously.
So, neocons = Jews and Mexicans?
Seems to me there are many neocons who are neither.
Yet you insist on trying to deflect criticism of neoconolgy by bringing up race.
Could be your obsession with race gets in the way of your reason.
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