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New Orleans Officers Cleared of Looting
Yahoo News ^ | Mar 18 | The Associated Press

Posted on 03/18/2006 7:08:24 PM PST by george76

Four New Orleans police officers have been cleared of allegations that they looted a Wal-Mart store after Hurricane Katrina, but each was suspended 10 days for not stopping civilians from ransacking the store, the Police Department said.

The probe stemmed from an MSNBC report that showed the officers filling a shopping cart with shoes, clothes and other items.

When a reporter asked the officers what they were doing, one responded, "Looking for looters" and turned her back.

Assistant Police Chief Marlon Defillo, commander of the Public Integrity Bureau, said the officers seen on the video were recently cleared of looting because they had received permission from superiors to take necessities for themselves and other officers.

Fontenot received an additional three-day penalty for her "discourteous" response to the MSNBC correspondent...

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1 posted on 03/18/2006 7:08:26 PM PST by george76
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To: george76
the officers seen on the video were recently cleared of looting because they had received permission from superiors to take necessities for themselves and other officers.

Bill Cosby's impression of a 5-year-old getting caught stealing cookies from the cookie jar: "....but I was getting a cookie FOR YOU!!!!"
2 posted on 03/18/2006 7:10:34 PM PST by beezdotcom
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To: george76
New Orleans Officers Cleared of Looting

Just another day in Chocolate City

3 posted on 03/18/2006 7:12:00 PM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: george76

"Who ya gonna believe, me, or your own lying eyes?!"


4 posted on 03/18/2006 7:13:33 PM PST by rockrr (Never argue with a man who buys ammo in bulk...)
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To: george76

What BS!!!

Who are we gonna believe him...or our lying eyes!


5 posted on 03/18/2006 7:13:46 PM PST by Txsleuth (Bush-Bot;WaterBucket Brigader;and fan of defconw;Cboldt is my mentor!)
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To: Puppage
 The police looting Video...

6 posted on 03/18/2006 7:13:50 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: rockrr

LOL....trust me...I had NOT read your response before I posted mine.


7 posted on 03/18/2006 7:14:31 PM PST by Txsleuth (Bush-Bot;WaterBucket Brigader;and fan of defconw;Cboldt is my mentor!)
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To: george76
the officers seen on the video were recently cleared of looting because they had received permission from superiors to take necessities for themselves and other officers

Their "superiors" don't have the authority to authorize them to loot, only the manager of the store or a person from Walmart corporate has the authority to allow that. It's not theirs to give away.

8 posted on 03/18/2006 7:14:55 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: george76
Sheesh!...OJ #2.
9 posted on 03/18/2006 7:16:45 PM PST by jazusamo (:Gregory was riled while Hume smiled:)
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To: george76
What a slap in the face for the rest of the country. IF she had permission why did she threaten the news crew? I am now sick and am going to have an adult beverage and try and forget my tax dollars going to this scum town.
10 posted on 03/18/2006 7:16:46 PM PST by mad_as_he$$ (Never corner anything meaner than you. NSDQ)
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To: Txsleuth

I guess we didn't see what we were seeing.....we can't believe our lying eyes....


11 posted on 03/18/2006 7:17:22 PM PST by mystery-ak (Army Wife and Army Mother.....toughest job in the military)
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To: george76

Yesss....Yessss....52 inch plasma TV's, DVD players, Video games and movies are necessities.....


12 posted on 03/18/2006 7:17:50 PM PST by Dallas59 (MOHAMMED LIED-PEOPLE DIED)
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To: george76
"When a reporter asked the officers what they were doing, one responded, "Looking for looters" and turned her back."

I don't know how my gold fish got in the blender!

13 posted on 03/18/2006 7:20:21 PM PST by patriot_wes (papal infallibility - a proud tradition since 1869)
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To: mystery-ak

Amazing isn't this...considering all of the grief that Congress and the public have given President Bush for his "incompetent"handling of Katrina...

That this would just be not only tolerated...but the powers that be are LYING to make excuses for their crooked COPS!

If I were one of the dozen or so candidates for Mayor of New Orleans....I would make a point of saying that what the police did is unacceptable...and excusing them is even worse..and promise to FIRE all of them.


14 posted on 03/18/2006 7:21:22 PM PST by Txsleuth (Bush-Bot;WaterBucket Brigader;and fan of defconw;Cboldt is my mentor!)
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To: george76

When the police investigate themselves, this is what happens.

The police don't like to make the police look bad, even when the police have made the police look bad.


15 posted on 03/18/2006 7:21:39 PM PST by Supernatural (When they come a wull staun ma groon, Staun ma groon al nae be afraid)
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To: FreedomCalls

Two looting investigations involving police remain under investigation by federal authorities...

One involves the theft of about 200 vehicles from Sewell Cadillac Chevrolet and allegations that 3rd District commanders were involved in some of the thefts.

The other involves a complaint from a hotel owner that a group of officers from the now-disbanded Community Policing squad kept a large stash of goods in one of the rooms.


16 posted on 03/18/2006 7:23:51 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Txsleuth

I just can't believe this....we all watched this and they were caught red-handed......just pathetic and you are right....they have and continue to ridicule the President over Katrina, but they let people like this get away with crimes...


17 posted on 03/18/2006 7:26:26 PM PST by mystery-ak (Army Wife and Army Mother.....toughest job in the military)
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To: Supernatural

Billy Tauzen's famous "Half of Louisiana is under water, the other half is under indictment."...


18 posted on 03/18/2006 7:30:36 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76
"This ain't lootin....this is, er, requisitioning...Yea, that's it! Now mind your own business and move along!"
19 posted on 03/18/2006 7:37:24 PM PST by rockrr (Never argue with a man who buys ammo in bulk...)
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To: Txsleuth

;'}


20 posted on 03/18/2006 7:38:02 PM PST by rockrr (Never argue with a man who buys ammo in bulk...)
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To: mad_as_he$$

Scum town is right, only thing worse is a lot of other cities now have them forever, like roaches


21 posted on 03/18/2006 7:40:13 PM PST by Roverman2K
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To: george76

One would think that New Orleans would like to put its corrupt policies of the past behind them, but with this type of decision, it seems to me that they want to keep the corruption with them as they go forward.


22 posted on 03/18/2006 7:43:55 PM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: george76

"the other half is under indictment."...

LOL! Got a good chuckle out of that one!


23 posted on 03/18/2006 7:44:03 PM PST by Supernatural (When they come a wull staun ma groon, Staun ma groon al nae be afraid)
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To: george76

What is to be expected when those investigating the crimes are just as big in the criminal world as the ones being investigated. This is a literal application of the "let he who is without guilt cast the first stone". As those who were doing the investigating were just as guilty, they didn't feel it was right to "convict" those CAUGHT ON TAPE OBVIOUSLY AND WITH AN ATTITUDE LOOTING the WalMart.

From now on, anyone in the NO area who wants to walk out of WalMart with a basket full of merchandise without paying should legally be entitled to it. Isn't there a legal precident involving "equal protection". If it's not wrong for police officers to steal, then it's not wrong for the "average Joe".

This just makes me so sick in so many ways....


24 posted on 03/18/2006 7:49:45 PM PST by TheBattman (Islam (and liberalism)- the cult of Satan and a Cancer on Society)
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To: mystery-ak

25 posted on 03/18/2006 7:50:37 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

Pathetic.


26 posted on 03/18/2006 7:53:17 PM PST by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: george76
the officers seen on the video were recently cleared of looting because they had received permission from superiors to take necessities for themselves and other officers.

Okey, dokey! That explains everything. It only LOOKED like looting on TV. It's OK to loot if you have permission from your superiors. I guess you'd have to be NOPD to understand.

27 posted on 03/18/2006 7:55:54 PM PST by Mogengator
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To: george76
they had received permission from superiors to take necessities for themselves and other officers.

They had permission to put that big screen TV in the back of the stolen Caddilac?

28 posted on 03/18/2006 7:59:11 PM PST by Mr. Brightside (Watcher of the Skies)
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To: Mogengator

Therefore, according to the police logic, the missing (stolen) 200 Cadillacs and Chevys were ok...too.


29 posted on 03/18/2006 7:59:32 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76
"It was determined that all four officers had received permission from their commanders to get clothing for fellow officers who were soaking wet," Superintendent Warren Riley said through a spokesperson Friday. "They did not steal anything."

That last sentence shows an interesting interpretation of the law.

30 posted on 03/18/2006 8:14:27 PM PST by Young Scholar
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To: george76
Of course there are other photos and videos of the police looting. Looting firearms from private homes, with the owners present.

The NRA and SAF took them to court over that. The city at first denied they'd confiscated any firearms. Now they've agreed to return the guns they didn't confiscate. Don't know that they've actually returned any yet. I'm sure proving that a firearm is actually yours could be a bit difficult, since even if you had a bill of sale, there'd be a good chance that it would be a might soggy and hard to read. Of course there is no requirement to actually have one, I've got at least two firearms for which I never had one, and two others that I've had for over 20 years, and wouldn't have a clue where the BoS is, although I likely did keep it. Plus I've moved 5 times in that period, and things tend to get a bit scrambled when you move.

31 posted on 03/18/2006 8:20:03 PM PST by El Gato
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To: Young Scholar
"It was determined that all four officers had received permission from their commanders to get clothing for fellow officers who were soaking wet,"

Of course if they had any clothing in their cart, it wasn't obvious. Maybe a few pairs of tennis shoes and of course those spike heals are great for wading in the swamp slime.

32 posted on 03/18/2006 8:23:20 PM PST by El Gato
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To: Young Scholar

"They did not steal anything."

Like they were going to return it later. 8-))

Just borrowing.../s


33 posted on 03/18/2006 8:25:23 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: El Gato

The pictures, videos, and reports of police looting are well documented.

Just like the many school buses and city metro buses that were never used...lots of proof there, too.


34 posted on 03/18/2006 8:29:14 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Txsleuth
I would make a point of saying that what the police did is unacceptable...and excusing them is even worse..and promise to FIRE all of them.

I suspect if you said that, within the next couple of days you'd find yourself pulled over for "erratic driving", roughed up a bit, and then jailed for "resisting arrest." As any third world nation, New Orleans has at least as much rule by law as it does rule of law.

35 posted on 03/18/2006 11:28:29 PM PST by CGTRWK
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To: george76

And they want my tax dollars to rebuild? Gimme a break.


36 posted on 03/18/2006 11:35:10 PM PST by GOPJ (Peace happens when evil is vanquished -- Cal Thomas)
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To: george76

Makes me want to go to N.O. for a vacation and spend my money knowing I'll be safely protected by the local law enforcement officers.
Anyone ever hear what became of the hundreds of ficticious cops that were getting paid? And maybe who was getting that money?


37 posted on 03/19/2006 2:38:36 AM PST by Joe Boucher (an enemy of islam)
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To: Joe Boucher

Are the N.O. police saying that it is ok to loot (steal) from any business if your get permission from a police supervisor ?

Not even prior permission...just any permission any time ?


38 posted on 03/19/2006 11:16:56 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

The whole country watched these thieves steal and now we learn they get away with it. But was there really any doubt they would? They have a friggin excuse for everything they do. Intelligent people know what they witnessed. The ignorant will continue to let these leeches from hell get away with it and make excuses for them. She (the main one that talked to the reporter while stealing) is nothing but a fat pig who probably taught her own kids to steal to get whatever they want, whenever they want just as her parents did. It is THEIR way of life.


39 posted on 03/23/2006 8:15:54 AM PST by WasDougsLamb (cry me a river, then build a bridge and get over it !)
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To: george76

of course they were.
next headline: "water cleared of charges of being wet"


40 posted on 03/23/2006 5:24:44 PM PST by King Prout (many complain I am overly literal. this would not be a problem if so many were not under-precise)
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To: george76

OMG. Un-friggin-believable...


41 posted on 03/23/2006 5:27:12 PM PST by Ladysmith ((NRA, SAS))
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To: george76

Not surprised by it. What do you expect out of NOPD, which is the most corrupt.


42 posted on 03/23/2006 6:24:38 PM PST by Ptarmigan (Proud bunny hater and killer)
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To: WasDougsLamb

She got narsty at being accosted by the reporter because she had to loot faster than the rest of the looters in order to get anything good.


43 posted on 03/23/2006 6:28:56 PM PST by drlevy88
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To: george76
Assistant Police Chief Marlon Defillo, commander of the Public Integrity Bureau, said the officers seen on the video were recently cleared of looting because they had received permission from superiors to take necessities for themselves and other officers.

1.) Was that verbal permission or is it in writing??If in writing ,Can we see it.

2.) Who issued that permission???

3.) They need to come before the cameras and explain themselves.

44 posted on 03/23/2006 6:32:08 PM PST by HP8753 (My cat loves watching "The Grinch who stole Christmas".)
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To: beezdotcom
Anyone wonder where Walmart is in all of this? I think people need to get together and send Walmart a few letters asking why they haven't pressed any charges concerning these officers' illegal requisitions.
45 posted on 03/23/2006 6:32:40 PM PST by LuxMaker
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To: El Gato

It certainly would be interesting to know what Walmart's recorded losses were and how much (notice I did not say, 'if') they received FEMA funds for 'storm damages'.


46 posted on 03/23/2006 8:32:32 PM PST by freema (Proud Marine FRiend, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: george76
they had received permission from superiors to take necessities for themselves and other officers.

Wouldn't this fall under the RICO statutes?

47 posted on 03/23/2006 9:48:53 PM PST by jackliberty
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"were recently cleared of looting because they had received permission from superiors to take necessities for themselves and other officers."

And this "permission" was given when?

48 posted on 03/24/2006 5:07:05 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: jackliberty

It should fall under RICO.

No supervisor has the authority to grant permission to steal.

They all should go to jail.


49 posted on 03/24/2006 7:05:10 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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