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Group: Geico Insurance Rates 'Very Unfair'
reuters ^ | 3/20/06

Posted on 03/20/2006 5:25:49 PM PST by mathprof

A leading U.S. consumer group Monday accused Geico Corp. of using consumers' education backgrounds and occupations as criteria in setting auto insurance rates, resulting in discrimination against minorities and lower-income people.

The Consumer Federation of America (CFA) charged that the No. 4 U.S. auto insurer, has adopted rating methods and underwriting guidelines in 44 states that directly tie rates to education and occupation.

Geico, a unit of Berkshire Hathaway Inc. (BRK), the insurance and investment company controlled by billionaire Warren Buffett, rejected the charges. It called them "an offensive attempt to link fundamentally fair and actuarially sound industry practices with invidious discrimination."

The insurer provides auto insurance to more than 6 million policyholders, and insures more than 10 million vehicles.

Robert Hunter, the CFA's director of insurance and a former Texas insurance commissioner, called Geico's rate-setting policies an "underwriting sleight-of-hand" that can shortchange thousands of drivers.

Under Geico's guidelines, he said, a New Orleans factory worker without a high school education would pay $2,636 for insurance, 91 percent more the $1,382 that a white-collar worker with a graduate degree would pay for the same vehicle and location.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: berkshirehathaway; geico; redlining
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Ever think of moving? Mass is as big as some counties in other states.


21 posted on 03/20/2006 5:35:55 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: Redcloak
Stupid people should be charged more for everything.

LOL. Actually, they usually are. Well, in the sense that they usually pay more because they are stupid.

What about me? How much of a discount do I receive because I am potty trained?

22 posted on 03/20/2006 5:36:04 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s
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To: mathprof
In other words, raise rates on some so others will pay less. And some people still think its about a free lunch. Amazing!

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

23 posted on 03/20/2006 5:37:00 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

At least in the PRM you can buy wine and have it shipped to your door.

If I try to do this in PRMd (P.R. of Maryland) I'm a felon!


24 posted on 03/20/2006 5:37:23 PM PST by mathprof
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To: mathprof

What crime would I be commiting IF I LIED about my education on a Geico application?

I doubt that they can verify your education claims.


25 posted on 03/20/2006 5:37:24 PM PST by George from New England
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To: mathprof

Now I find out the rates are cheap and service good for professionals -- I will take it! :)

Have been with GEICO for years (exception of one year) -- love the service received including when someone ran a stop sign and plowed right into the side of my car. When Farmer's was the family insurance and my son was hit by someone who ran a red light, they told us to deal with the moron's insurance company out of Tulsa. Took forever to get it settled unlike when I was hit and GEICO went after the insurance company of the person who hit me including medical for a shoulder injury. One year with Farmers and went back to GEICO.


26 posted on 03/20/2006 5:38:21 PM PST by PhiKapMom (Elect Bob Sullivan OK Governor -- Throw out Dem Gov DoLittle Henry in 2006!)
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To: Cyclopean Squid

I can't stand the latest batch. I have a hard time understanding anything with that absymall accent.

I will admit, the ones with the cavemen are kinda funny.

But they try so hard to be "entertaining" with their commercials, that I wonder how their service would be if I ever need to file a claim. Frankly, if I ever need to file a claim, I want some actuary guy with a slide rule and a pocket protector telling me how much I'm going to get, rather than have some stupid lizard trying to do a song and dance, giving me free pie and chips.

And what the hell is/are "pie and chips"?


27 posted on 03/20/2006 5:38:28 PM PST by birbear (You know what? This is crap. We're going to stop this.)
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To: Cyclopean Squid
"The new gecko commercials are wretched. "

C'mon mate. they're made from scratch, just for you.

28 posted on 03/20/2006 5:38:47 PM PST by isrul
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To: Cyclopean Squid

I have hated gekcos ever since my TDY at Anderson AFB, Guam. You wake up with the critters on you and everything else. Oh, and I'm happy with CSAA.


29 posted on 03/20/2006 5:39:13 PM PST by afnamvet
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To: mathprof

What's not to like about free pie and chips? It's pie...and chips...for free!

USAA has been fine to me.


30 posted on 03/20/2006 5:39:54 PM PST by Per-Ling
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To: birbear

I was hit by a driver that had Geico.

I have to say they paid $4500 for my car repairs, check was here before work was finished.

On a rental, I got Geico to give me more than my own insurance company would have provided. 3 weeks at that too.


31 posted on 03/20/2006 5:41:37 PM PST by George from New England
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To: Redcloak
Stupid people should be charged more for everything.

No kidding. I saved a bunch of money by comparing my insurance with the rates Geico had, and stayed with my previous insurance company.

32 posted on 03/20/2006 5:43:11 PM PST by Arrowhead1952 (Don't mess with Texas.)
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To: Redcloak
Stupid people should be charged more for everything.

Higher education is not a measure of intelligence.

33 posted on 03/20/2006 5:43:54 PM PST by holymoly (Dick DeVos for MI Governor: http://www.devosforgovernor.com/)
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To: birbear
Well, so far I had a towing job for my truck and didn't call Gieco for an approved towing operator, called a local guy instead.

Called Geico about it and they said, no problem just send us a copy of the towing bill and we'll send you out a check right away.

Week and a half later had the check for $85 in my hand.

All contact done through the Internet also BTW.

So far so good.
34 posted on 03/20/2006 5:44:02 PM PST by headstamp (Nothing lasts forever, Unless it does.)
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To: birbear
Frankly, if I ever need to file a claim, I want some actuary guy with a slide rule and a pocket protector telling me how much I'm going to get, rather than have some stupid lizard trying to do a song and dance, giving me free pie and chips.

C'mon, bear. Put the bong away. Do you actually think when you go to a GEICO claims office, there's a gekko serving pie and chips? They have the requisite number of geeks with slide rules, just like any other insurer.

35 posted on 03/20/2006 5:44:41 PM PST by SnuffaBolshevik
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To: afnamvet
I have hated gekcos ever since my TDY at Anderson AFB, Guam.

I've done that exact gig. Weird to wake up and see 'em staring down at you from the ceiling.

36 posted on 03/20/2006 5:44:56 PM PST by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government "job" attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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To: mathprof

I'm waiting for Reuters to do a hitpiece on Progressive, run by the multi-millionaire socialist. Won't happen.


37 posted on 03/20/2006 5:45:24 PM PST by manic4organic (We won. Get over it.)
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To: SnuffaBolshevik
...a tuba dressed in a thong...

You speak'n of Hillary?

38 posted on 03/20/2006 5:45:24 PM PST by jigsaw (God Bless Our Troops.)
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To: Indy Pendance

I think of moving all the time. I'd have to get my daughter (and grandson) to go along.

I've been with the same company for 23 years and it's hard to consider starting over. If I move to New Hampshire, I'd pay higher real estate taxes and the same Mass. Income taxes. No place else is within commuting distance.

My program may have an opening in Colorado Springs, I'd like to see if I could shoehorn my way in. (I think I could convince my daughter to move.)


39 posted on 03/20/2006 5:45:31 PM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (NYT Headline: 'Protocols of the Learned Elders of CBS: Fake But Accurate, Experts Say.')
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To: birbear
"And what the hell is/are "pie and chips"?"

I think you could find them in cow pasture.

40 posted on 03/20/2006 5:45:57 PM PST by Buddy B (MSgt Retired-USAF)
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