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Republicans All Alone in Viewing the Economy as in Good Shape
Gallup ^ | 3/21/06 | Frank Newport

Posted on 03/21/2006 6:35:44 AM PST by pissant

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Yet another quagmire of the Bush Legacy. /sarc
1 posted on 03/21/2006 6:35:47 AM PST by pissant
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To: pissant

Who are they polling? We have the lowest rate of unemployment in years here in Florida. Help wanted signs all over the place. I guess there aren't enough 50k a year starting salaries ofr HS drop outs?


2 posted on 03/21/2006 6:38:35 AM PST by Bringbackthedraft (If we do not learn from history we are doomed to repeat it. But then again, it repeats regardless.)
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To: pissant
Independents in particular have become more negative in their views of the economy this year, and now are much closer to the negative attitudes of Democrats than to the more rosy views of Republicans.

Could it be because most Independents are actually Democrats??

3 posted on 03/21/2006 6:39:05 AM PST by Mo1 ("Stupidity is also a gift from God, but it should not be abused." Pope John Paul II)
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To: pissant
The Democrats must be correct in their assessment of the economy. After all, they're the reality-based community
4 posted on 03/21/2006 6:40:02 AM PST by RightWingAtheist ( EveningStar is back; new tagline pending)
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To: pissant

There are five reasons for this:

1. The Media lies.

2. Most people are whiners.

3. The Media lies.

4. The price of a gallon of gas

5. The Media lies.


5 posted on 03/21/2006 6:40:03 AM PST by rightinthemiddle (UP: W.O.T. Tax Cuts Supreme Court Economy Morals DOWN: Borders/Illegals Spending)
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To: Bringbackthedraft

The facts don't matter to the MSM - it's the same template they use in Iraq: If it's good news for Bush, don't report it. If it's bad news, then report it loud and long. Between now and the midterms they will expand the plan to include making bad news up (not that they don't do some of that already).


6 posted on 03/21/2006 6:40:30 AM PST by AD from SpringBay (We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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To: pissant

The MSM have served there masters well.


7 posted on 03/21/2006 6:40:42 AM PST by kb2614 (Hell hath no fury than a bureaucrat scorned.)
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To: pissant
Ya think the MSM dumping every day over Iraq, the economy, and anything else to do with Bush has anything to do with creating a downer attitude?

You know if this were Clinton the MSM would all be singing "Glory Hallelujah, What a Wonder Is he."
8 posted on 03/21/2006 6:40:43 AM PST by Obadiah
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To: Bringbackthedraft

I am convinced beyond doubt that the pollsters (most, not all) are cooking their books. Or conversely, only publishing a poll when the news looks bad for GWB. The series of recent CBS polls have been total frauds. But I guess CBS/Fraud is redundant.


9 posted on 03/21/2006 6:40:48 AM PST by pissant
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To: pissant; All

push polling.

Is the gallup organization that stupid?

It is really too bad there is no FreeRepulicTV.


10 posted on 03/21/2006 6:41:34 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: Bringbackthedraft
Who are they polling?

Whoever gives them the "right" answer. Gallup lost all credibility years ago.

11 posted on 03/21/2006 6:41:40 AM PST by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: pissant
The real question is why the Republicans don't bring it up and make it stick. They could do every interview with an initial speech about the economy.
12 posted on 03/21/2006 6:41:41 AM PST by Tarpon
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To: Mo1

Or the ones that claim "independent" are anyway. I've been an independent my entire life, and have NEVER been polled.


13 posted on 03/21/2006 6:43:18 AM PST by pissant
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To: pissant
All alone?

Not according to Gallup's own poll numbers. That headline's a lie.

14 posted on 03/21/2006 6:43:34 AM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: kb2614

and advertisers continue to pay money to them.


15 posted on 03/21/2006 6:43:44 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: kb2614

and advertisers continue to pay money to them.


16 posted on 03/21/2006 6:43:44 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: pissant


Typical scenario:

There's a group think lib that works at the company I do...she just bought a new car, is on the all employee stock option plan, the company is doing great...yada, yada, yada...but...to her "The economy is just terrible under Bush."

She wont listen to the facts, doesnt understand the country has had several quarters of about 3% growth, that the unemployment rate is at 4.8% (pretty much full employment in macro economic terms)...just doesnt care...cuz in her small mind...Bush is evil.

Sad.


17 posted on 03/21/2006 6:43:53 AM PST by in hoc signo vinces ("Houston, TX...a waiting quagmire for jihadis. American gals are worth fighting for!")
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To: RightWingAtheist

ROFL! That makes the Smokey Back Room here look sane!


18 posted on 03/21/2006 6:44:01 AM PST by pissant
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To: rightinthemiddle

Yes. I'd add a sixth: The media lies.


19 posted on 03/21/2006 6:44:28 AM PST by pissant
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To: rightinthemiddle

Reason #6: The Media lies. :)


20 posted on 03/21/2006 6:44:49 AM PST by A Balrog of Morgoth (With fire, sword, and stinging whip I drive the RINOs in terror before me.)
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To: kb2614

They are certainly trying. They are imploding nonetheless.


21 posted on 03/21/2006 6:45:02 AM PST by pissant
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To: pissant
Views of the economy remain highly partisan, with Republicans the most positive, Democrats most negative, and independents somewhere in the middle.

Which means people aren't basing their view of the economy on numbers, but on rhetoric. The media wing of the DNC, aka the MSM, is doing their part to help get their people elected.

22 posted on 03/21/2006 6:45:35 AM PST by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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To: Obadiah

Bingo. Best War since the Revolution. Best Economy in History. Most popular president ever.....


23 posted on 03/21/2006 6:46:11 AM PST by pissant
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To: longtermmemmory

Yep. A Gallup specialty


24 posted on 03/21/2006 6:46:38 AM PST by pissant
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To: Tarpon

I think the Prez will do that today.


25 posted on 03/21/2006 6:47:10 AM PST by pissant
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To: pissant

Actually, I was thinking about adding "The Media Lies."


26 posted on 03/21/2006 6:48:31 AM PST by rightinthemiddle (UP: W.O.T. Tax Cuts Supreme Court Economy Morals DOWN: Borders/Illegals Spending)
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To: Mo1
"Could it be because most Independents are actually Democrats??"

Ding, Ding !! We have a winner. I got a feeling that polls more than ever are skewed ( on purpose) because alot of Liberal/Rat types like to hide behind the "Independent" label. A good pollster would just eliminate that option all together and make someone declare their leanings one way or another.
27 posted on 03/21/2006 6:49:40 AM PST by The South Texan (The Democrat Party and the leftist (ABCCBSNBCCNN NYLATIMES)media are a criminal enterprise!)
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To: mewzilla

As always.


28 posted on 03/21/2006 6:49:47 AM PST by pissant
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To: rightinthemiddle

6) The administration's amazing communications ineptitude. Exhibit A is Scott McClellen, but he is just one of the problems.

President Bush: The vision of Reagan, the effectiveness of Carter.


29 posted on 03/21/2006 6:50:01 AM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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To: RightWingAtheist
Hilarious! Who knew the lost city of Atlantis was Bush's fault!

I was told that many, many Americans who are currently incarnated had lives on Atlantis. (I've heard this other places as well.) What I hadn't heard was that both George Bush Sr. & George Bush Jr. were extremely powerful priests on Atlantis, and they were part of the problem that caused Atlantis to sink.

30 posted on 03/21/2006 6:50:18 AM PST by Huck (I only type lol when I am really lol.)
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To: in hoc signo vinces

I have a term for women like her, but I'd be banned from using it. It's initials are SC.


31 posted on 03/21/2006 6:50:47 AM PST by pissant
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To: pissant

if you think your economic condition is not up to snuff, work harder.


32 posted on 03/21/2006 6:51:05 AM PST by JohnLongIsland
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To: The_Victor

And most idiotic dems read the MSM, thinking they get the truth.


33 posted on 03/21/2006 6:51:44 AM PST by pissant
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To: The South Texan
because alot of Liberal/Rat types like to hide behind the "Independent" label

Yes they do

There are legit independents .. but more liberals today are signing up as independents

34 posted on 03/21/2006 6:51:52 AM PST by Mo1 ("Stupidity is also a gift from God, but it should not be abused." Pope John Paul II)
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Come Sunday, Pacific Gas and Electric Co.'s residential customers will see, on average, an 11.1 percent increase in the price they pay for electricity.

The increase in their natural gas costs will be worse. Those are expected to soar in January to levels 43.4 percent higher than they were a year ago, extending a three-month run-up in gas prices.

The result: The average PG&E customer will face a combined bill of $224.06 in January, compared with $175.22 a year ago.
35 posted on 03/21/2006 6:51:54 AM PST by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: pissant
It's a real laugh-a-word, isn'it? :-)

I'd been trying for several months to make it a Googlebomb (so that the next time a smug liberal feels lucky about the term "reality based community", they come face-to-face with the anti-reason, anti-science left) but Google and DU are apparently in cahoots, and now, you can't directly access DU's Astrology, Stupidity and Alternative Moonbattery through a simple Google search.

36 posted on 03/21/2006 6:52:04 AM PST by RightWingAtheist ( EveningStar is back; new tagline pending)
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To: rightinthemiddle

With the rejoinder: the media is dying.


37 posted on 03/21/2006 6:52:28 AM PST by pissant
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To: rightinthemiddle

You should put number 4 in all 5 spots, if the price of gas doesn't fall Republicans will pay for it this year.

The facts don't matter, as long as Joe and Suzy Voter see prices as high as they are it's going to hurt.


38 posted on 03/21/2006 6:53:59 AM PST by rattrap
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To: hedgetrimmer

That sucks. Just put on a sweater.


39 posted on 03/21/2006 6:56:29 AM PST by pissant
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To: rattrap
If for some strange reason, the Dems do take the house and Senate back this fall, they will be stupid enough to attempt impeachment. The ensuing RASH of hearings, investigations, rhetoric, etc... will make the public dislike the Democrats nasty and hateful nature so much that the even the MSM will not be able to conceal it.

(God forbid!)

40 posted on 03/21/2006 7:00:10 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (Pat Buchanan............A principled pessimist with a pessimistic principal)
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To: pissant

People think the economy is bad because the cost of necessities is rising faster than the ability to pay for it.

The inflation numbers put out by the government very conveniently do not include the cost of home utilities, fuel or housing.


41 posted on 03/21/2006 7:04:27 AM PST by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: hedgetrimmer

If not for the rise in petroleum prices, that too would show little inflation. It has a ripple effect. thank GOD we are finally going to build more nuke plants.


42 posted on 03/21/2006 7:11:14 AM PST by pissant
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To: Obadiah

If the Iraq war was under the Clinton administration, it would be classed as the most noble effort yet by mankind.


43 posted on 03/21/2006 7:12:41 AM PST by headstamp (Nothing lasts forever, Unless it does.)
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To: in hoc signo vinces
"listen to facts"

Don't feel alone. Americans in general are pretty ignorant about economics and quite willing to believe the lies of Big Media. I recently read a column by some lib who wrote about the "sluggish" economy. If the unemployment rate was at one percent, the stock market at twenty thousand, everyone owned their own home, and the average annual income was one hundred thousand dollars Big Media would still be talking about a "sluggish" economy...and they will continue to do so while a Republican is president.

44 posted on 03/21/2006 7:13:22 AM PST by driftless ( For life-long happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: pissant

Once again the liberal/socialist mantra:
Tell a lie long enough and eventually it will be believed without question.


45 posted on 03/21/2006 7:14:51 AM PST by BlueNgold (Feed the Tree .....)
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To: Tarpon

You have a point. This administration in particular has one of the most poorly run communications offices I've ever seen.

There is also virtually no coordination with Republicans in Congress when trying to get a message out or across.


46 posted on 03/21/2006 7:16:00 AM PST by headstamp (Nothing lasts forever, Unless it does.)
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To: rightinthemiddle

Sad truth is your are right. Most of the people I know are worried about their personal economy and have ben so for years. It is a mixture of hype and reality. Prices have gone up (see gas), wages are going up slowly if at all for some, taxes are up (come to Houston and find out, the tax cut I got a few years ago has been swallowed up and then some by local taxes, debt is up for many, and many do not think they are secure in their jobs.

How much is truth and how much is hype depends on the person's situation. But most of the people I know are startign to worry and play their cards close to the vest.


47 posted on 03/21/2006 7:17:02 AM PST by TXBSAFH (Proud Dad of Twins, What Does Not Kill You Makes You Stronger!!!!!!)
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To: headstamp



Their (Bush Admin) too busy working rather than running a PR campaign that would fail (since Big Media would just step up the lieing to counter it).

As opposed to Billy Bob Clintoon, who never worked as POTUS just managed a PR campaign with the help of Big Media...

So, this administration...just decides to work, and let the chips fall as they may.


48 posted on 03/21/2006 7:19:10 AM PST by in hoc signo vinces ("Houston, TX...a waiting quagmire for jihadis. American gals are worth fighting for!")
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thank GOD we are finally going to build more nuke plants.

In CHINA. A so-called US company which is really owned by foreign agents gets US taxpayer dollars to build nuclear plants in China. Yes, those plants are going to do us a lot of good. NOT.
49 posted on 03/21/2006 7:20:11 AM PST by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: hedgetrimmer

No. Here as well.


50 posted on 03/21/2006 7:21:20 AM PST by pissant
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