Bias in Teacher-Student Sex Case

Orlando Sentinal ^ | 03/11/2006 | Rene Stutzman

[najida]

No...

The rule is boys NEED sex, they have to have it,
they LOVE it...Why, they would die without it.

Girls on the other hand are supposed not to like sex at all, have no interest, desires or wants (Even though they mature much more quickly physically and emotionally)...then they are supposed to be totally asexual until their wedding night at which time they are supposed to act like porn stars.

However, once married, they can then act just like all those hot teachers that their hubbies used to fool around with...cept now they can do it with the boys that their hubbies no longer are;)

'tis a confusing world to live in.

[najida]

You must be new to FR. ;)

[monday]

" The law in most states defines a minor as being under 16 to 18 years of age."


True but the law treats prepubescent and postpubecent minors differently. It is much more serious to have sex with a prepubescent child than a postpubecent teenager. That goes for either male or female. The law doesn't discriminate between the two, and it shouldn't for prepubescent children.

The difference comes when prosecuting cases where postpubecent minors are involved. Judges sentence people according to the seriousness of the crime and if they refuse to give long sentences to adult females who have sex with postpubecent male minors, it is because they recognize that the postpubecent male was not victimized.

If they give a long sentence to a male who had sex with a postpubecent female minor, it is because they believe that the female was victimized, to one degree or another.

Neither is likely to get as long a sentence as a true pedophile who had sex with a prepubescent child would.

"One thing that rarely comes up about the difference of male and female victims is that most female minors involved in these situations with teachers are also consensual victims. Does that it make any less of a crime or them any less a victim?"

It is still a crime, but if the relationship was truly consensual then no, the female wasn't a victim either. In cases where this is a factor, the sentences are usually less also. It is not unheard of for men who aren't too much older than the minor teenager to get probation only. That is even more lenient than the female teacher who was placed under house arrest.

[little jeremiah]

A Two-fer.

[Fintan]

This stuff bothers me, when are we going to stop being chivalrous to trash like LaFave?

 

Actually, I want to know when teachers are going to stop treating their classrooms like personal harems.

[jazusamo]

Everything you've said is probably true but the fact remains that our kids go to school and we entrust them to their teachers. When those teachers engage in behavior that breaks that trust and they knowingly ignore the law, they should be sentenced according to that law.

If probation is appropriate for women teachers in lieu of prison sentences, our laws should be changed to reflect that. Until the laws are changed, both male and female teachers should be punished equally, IMO.

I appreciate that our discussion has taken place in a civil manner even though we don't agree. Many posts I have seen evolve into something less.

[george wythe]

If a male teacher has sex with a student, he should be crucified.

If a female teacher has sex with a student, she just made the student lucky.

See this thread if you have any doubts:

Judge: No Deal For Teacher Who Slept With Her Student

[vetvetdoug]

If I had been 14 and been offered Ms. Lafave I would have done it then. If I would have been 16 and offered Ms. Lafave I would have done it then. If Ms. Lafave offered herself to me now I would do it. The main thing is to keep your friggin' mouth shut about it.

[okiecon]

Not always. Have you been in a high school recently? Being a slut is not necessarily shameful, sadly.

[okiecon]

Or what if she got pregnant? I can only imagine being liable for child support and having a child that you have to fight for custody of (and quite possibly not win) at the age of 15.

[okiecon]

I agree that it is horrible for both, but sometimes child support does become a collateral issue if the woman gets pregnant.

[okiecon]

The trauma, or lack thereof, is not a reason for this crime to not be punished.

So if I drive drunk, but do not otherwise break the law, run into a roadblock and get arrested, they should let me go?

[okiecon]

LOL. Yep, teen girls aren't interested in sex at all. They like to play with dolls and have sleepovers. Good stuff. Women and men are sexual beings.

[okiecon]

Just saw her on Fox. She claim to have "bipolar." I assume she is claiming she has bipolar disorder. I have known people with this disorder and trying to blame her crime on her "bipolar" is laughable at best.

[okiecon]

Seems like a lot of guys here would just screw this nutty b*tch with impunity. I am sorry, I don't do the crazy ones. Condoms break.

[najida]

Yeah,
and 14 year old girls giggle and go 'eeewww' when Brad Pitt comes on the TV (not!)

[jazusamo]

We have a neighbor with the disorder. I have read some about it and her claim hasn't been printed in anything I've read.

[krb]

Even though they mature much more quickly physically and emotionally

I don't think it's true that women mature more quickly; I just think men take the concept further :-)

[Bloody Sam Roberts]

Ping for new info:

Judge: No Deal For Teacher Who Slept With Her Student

[TheSpottedOwl]

I agree. It bothers me too. While I have no doubt that there is good evidence against LaFavre, I'm wondering about the rash of accusations against other female teachers. Something tells me their not all guilty as charged.

Everyone should be held to the same standards. If the male teacher got 5 years, so should she.