How to spot a baby conservative

THE STAR ^ | 03/22/06 | KURT KLEINER

[The Brush]

When I was growing up I was annoyed by kids who refused to follow the rules.
I figured there was some purpose for the rules even if I didn't get it and I followed them, perhaps fearing the hand of discipline that might come from choosing to ignore them.
If this study implies that kids who are well behaved tend to grow up right thinking conservatives, then I'm not offended.
If this study is 20 years old, let's check again in twenty more years. They may see that Liberals are just slow learners

[garylmoore]

Can you believe some liberal jerk spent 20 years of his life on a dumb subject like that, how dim-witted, and he's a proffessor? Could he not think of a subject more pratical to study?

[OKIEDOC]

Excellent. LOL

[SoftballMominVA]

I'm not so sure that this study got it wrong. Think about it - these kids respected the structure of the classroom room and instead of taking things into their own hands, they allowed the appointed leader to delve out punishment. Listen to the liberals today--they want to be the judge, jury and executioner for ANYTHING they don't like. In their eyes, laws are made to be broken and leaders are to mocked and scoffed at. If they FEEEEEEEL that something is wrong, it is up to the individual to decide if it is right or wrong. We conservatives respect the law and many of us place ourselves under God's law and obey it to the best of our ability.

The "whiny" label may be a liberals view of someone asking for help from the teacher. Maybe we would describe it in a different way.

[jiggyboy]

The confident kids turned out liberal and were still hanging loose, unemployed

turning into bright, non-conforming unemployed

adults with wide interests. unemployed

[OKIEDOC]

More to your excellent post than one might think.

These confident kids who grew up to be nonconforming,well adjusted adults at some point become whiny non-adjusted screaming Michael Moore, Cindy Shehan godless homosexuals, lesbians and traitorous smug elitists cowardly degenerate liberals.

[jbp1]

Exactly. Do the same study in a conservative neighborhood. Opposite results will be noted. A study of 100 kids, and from one community and it will be touted as scientific!

Hmmm let's see: a study of kids was undertaken, from their infancy to their adulthood. It was found that all of them learned to speak Spanish. The results are posted on the Universidad de Madrid Psychology Department website. What an unexpected result.

Sheepocacry

[Politicalmom]

My brother was the biggest whiny, wimpy brat around. He was a Young Republican in high school. After 14 years of college, he is basically a communist.


I am so confused.

[sarasota]

Did I seriously hear yesterday that there is a film being made about Sheehan, speculating who will play her??

[hermgem]

Go check and follow up on those that went through the S.F. education system and find out where they wound up.
Then do the same testing from those that graduated in fly over country, then compare.
But that accd. to San Fran graduates is not fair since fly overs had cleaner air or precisely:
A "pure and clean" surrounding atmosphere thus affording them a head start and thereby accounting for their comparative personal progress.

[jbp1]

I heard Ann Coulter was being considered.....

[drpix]

For the simple explanation, ask yourselves: When would a Berkley teacher consider a 3-4 year old "whiny" & "insecure"? When the kid...

- won't put a condom on his/her banana
- won't play with a doll if male or with trucks if female
- won't dress and pray as a Muslim or Buddhist

And I'm sure I missed many more!

[Politicalmom]

You can recognize MY conservative baby because she sleeps with her "Help, Mom!! There's a liberal under my bed!" book and her biggest insult is "You liberal!!"

I guess I had better teach her some tact before I turn her loose on the world.... :)

[sarasota]

Does your brother have a real job?

[Politicalmom]

Well, finally. He is four years younger than me. My parents wouldn't let me go away to college. I attended the local university, and worked a full time job.

They sent HIM to Cal Poly. They bitterly regret it now. He is 35 and finally left school a couple years ago.

He is teaching Latin in a boy's prep school. He is just a weird guy. *Sigh*

The rest of us are pretty normal.

[wbill]

So I don't know, I disagree with the premise, but agree with the conclusion's characterizations.

In retrospect, I agree with your assessment.

I also agree with the poster that made the comment that this is Berkley, and liberalism is tolerated better than in say, Pocatello, Idaho. If 100 kids were surveyed from there, I suspect that opposite results would be found.

Regardless, this is at best junk science with specious reasoning and should be regarded as such.

[HungarianGypsy]

One of the most whiny, insecure, "why doesn't everything work according to my needs" type of person I know is a liberal. The most confident, cocky, intelligent, yet crazy people I know are conservatives. These are just people I have kept in touch with since college.

[Elyse]

Did the kids who were neither whiny or self-confident grow up to be Independents?

I really don't see how this survey says anything. I was the first girl after three boys in my family and I was the darling little princess ruler of my world. I don't think a 4 year old could have been more self-confident than I was. Like others, I was a lot more liberal when I was 20, then I had kids and met the real world.

Their assessment of conservative and liberal characteristics looks like a whole big line of liberal-speak.

[Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit]

I am sure glad we can put people into neat little boxes: conservative / liberal and that there is clearly no abiguity between political orientation and that no Americans are apolitical or fairly center of the road.

[wbill]

The most confident, cocky, intelligent, yet crazy people I know are conservatives.

Me too. I'd add "self-reliant" to that list of adjectives, though.

I know a lot of libs that are *very* intelligent. But - they lack self-reliance, or motivation. It's easier for them to stay in a comfort zone. I have a cousin who is brilliant - he has a double PHD from MIT, and IMHO, could do roughly anything he wants. Sky is the limit. But....he's *VERY* liberal.

He's an academic. Makes a fair wage, but nothing like he'd command in the private sector. Working for himself, or in the private sector would entail RISK, and would force him to leave the comfort zone of people that all think like him.