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Pulled over in Kansas? Get ready to show your license, registration — and fingerprints
Kansas City Star ^ | 3/22/06 | BENITA Y. WILLIAMS

Posted on 03/22/2006 11:08:37 AM PST by Rebelbase

If you are stopped by police in Kansas, don’t be surprised if the officer pulls out a little black box and takes your fingerprints.

The gadget allows officers to identify people by fingerprints without hauling them to the police station.

Over the next year the Kansas Bureau of Investigation will test 60 of the devices with law enforcement agencies around the state. State officials said similar tests are being planned for New York, Milwaukee and Hawaii.

“This is definitely new,” said Gary Page, Overland Park Police Department crime lab. “It’s been talked about, but as far as I know they are not in use anywhere in the metro.”

The tests in Kansas are part of a bigger $3.6 million upgrade to the KBI’s statewide fingerprint database, unveiled Tuesday by the KBI and Kansas Attorney General Phill Kline.

■ The system:

Called the Automatic Fingerprint Identification System, it is a statewide database of more than 10 million fingerprints taken from people arrested in Kansas. The Missouri Highway Patrol maintains a similar database. Both systems link to the FBI fingerprint database.

■ How it works:

In Kansas, 54 law enforcement agencies have traded the ink-and-paper fingerprinting method for biometric imaging, which electronically scans a digital image of the print. Sixty Missouri agencies use biometric scanning. Police also can scan the fingers of corpses and people they arrest to match them against prints in the system. Results are obtained in seconds instead of hours. The inked cards still used by some smaller departments are also scanned into the statewide systems.

■ Why upgrade?

Kansas could no longer locate replacement parts or anyone to service the old system, which was launched in 1990 and upgraded in 1998. The first phase was funded with a $752,000 homeland security grant. The KBI is applying for similar grants to pay the balance. All upgrades should be completed by January 2007.

■ The portable devices:

Police place a person’s two index fingers on a screen. Wireless technology sends the image to the database for comparison. Prints scanned in the field will not be stored.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 4a; 4thamendment; bigbrother; brownshirts; donutwatch; fingerprints; fourthamendment; guilty; leoabuse; papersplease; police; policestate; tillproveninnocent
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To: Rebelbase

Welcome to the 21st century`where rapidly advancing technology makes it easier than ever for politicians to gradually create a police state without actually calling it that. But don't worry, I'm sure the officer will be friendly and personable so long as you comply without hesitance.


41 posted on 03/22/2006 12:15:32 PM PST by Firefigher NC (You light ‘em, we fight ‘em!)
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To: D-Chivas

"Most of you disagree with this tactic, but I think it has value. Think of all the cold cases that could be solved and all the wanted scum walking around that can't reasonably be picked up otherwise."

It's for the children, right?


42 posted on 03/22/2006 12:16:24 PM PST by dljordan
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To: Orlando
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43 posted on 03/22/2006 12:17:10 PM PST by Old Seadog (Inside every old person is a young person saying "WTF happened?".)
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To: MineralMan
...the last time I was in Kansas was....NEVER.

And we thank you.

44 posted on 03/22/2006 12:17:10 PM PST by Lurking in Kansas (Nothing witty here… move on.)
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To: A Balrog of Morgoth
It seems like a lot more money and effort is put into identifying and successfully prosecuting routine traffic violations then crimes involving identity theft and credit card fraud.

Or even crimes like illegal invasion of the USA by land, sea and air, welfare fraud, medical fraud and other stuff.

45 posted on 03/22/2006 12:17:22 PM PST by Centurion2000 (Islam's true face: http://makeashorterlink.com/?J169127BC)
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To: NeonKnight
Not bad for a state boasting a total population of about 2.2 million.

10 million fingerprints translates in Kansan to 1 million people.........

46 posted on 03/22/2006 12:18:09 PM PST by Osage Orange (Why does John McCain always smile like a mule eating cockleburrs?)
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To: NeonKnight; Osage Orange
...of more than 10 million fingerprints taken from people arrested in Kansas.

Not bad for a state boasting a total population of about 2.2 million.

Yeah, we get a lot of riff-raff from Missouri.

47 posted on 03/22/2006 12:24:29 PM PST by Lurking in Kansas (Nothing witty here… move on.)
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To: Lurking in Kansas
Yeah, we get a lot of riff-raff from Missouri.

That doesn't surprise me........( g )

Thank God...none of those Okie's darken the soil of KS.

FRegards,

48 posted on 03/22/2006 12:30:19 PM PST by Osage Orange (Why does John McCain always smile like a mule eating cockleburrs?)
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To: Hegemony Cricket
"He looked at me and said, "Kid, we don't like your kind, and we're gonna send your fingerprints off to Washington."

.... You can get anything you want at Alice's Restaurant (except an Alice) ....

49 posted on 03/22/2006 12:31:42 PM PST by Centurion2000 (Islam's true face: http://makeashorterlink.com/?J169127BC)
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To: Lurking in Kansas

"And we thank you."

No, thank you! Someone has to live there, I suppose, and we wouldn't want everyone there to be Fred Phelps.


50 posted on 03/22/2006 12:33:53 PM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: Orlando

I guess I have a different take - it can be very beneficial as people have more and more options for fake identification. If an officer has any doubt about who you are, it can be a real convenience if you aren't wanted, and a real bummer if you are. I spent 24 years in the military, so my prints are on file. I also had to give prints for a carry permit. Unless I commit a crime, my prints are meaningless - I don't even wipe down hotel rooms when I travel on business and I use restaurant water glasses without gloves.


51 posted on 03/22/2006 12:37:42 PM PST by trebb ("I am the way... no one comes to the Father, but by me..." - Jesus in John 14:6 (RSV))
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To: moehoward
The roadside fingerprint plan raises serious constitutional issues that are certain to be pursued as soon as the first blue light and siren guy insists on having it done. What is the compelling state interest? How does a fingerprint check aid in traffic enforcement that a valid drivers license does not? Where does self-incrimination intrusion stop? And those are just a few that come to mind extemporaneously. As dislikeable as they often may be, the ACLU will have a field day with this one.
52 posted on 03/22/2006 12:53:53 PM PST by middie (ath.Tha)
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To: reagan_fanatic
I'll stay outta Kansas till the Supremes have decided if this violates my 4th amendment rights. I think it does. Oh, but wait, in typical gov fashion, they will treat us ALL like criminals...it's easier and more profitable that way.
53 posted on 03/22/2006 12:58:33 PM PST by blu (People, for God's sake, think for yourselves!)
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To: MineralMan
Some acquiesencent poster out there in FR-Land will reply with the old rubric that is a confession of acceptance of a tyrranical regime: ''Well, if you've done nothing wrong and have no reason to insist on your constitutional immunites, you shouldn't be objecting to efficient law enforcement.''

Note: there was no crime and very efficient law enforcement in a large European country between 1933 and 1945. Those attributes of a government should not be the standard by which conduct is measured.

54 posted on 03/22/2006 12:59:43 PM PST by middie (ath.Tha)
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To: NeonKnight

Each of those 2.2 million people has approximately 10 fingers?


55 posted on 03/22/2006 1:08:22 PM PST by flada (Posting in a manner reminiscent of Jen-gis Kahn.)
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To: D-Chivas

More efficient law enforcement, sure... but it is also leading us towards a government that can track your every move at all times, and that is not a good thing. I don't like it.


56 posted on 03/22/2006 1:12:28 PM PST by Teacher317
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To: D-Chivas
Hi D-Chivas:

Do a keyword search using the term "Fourth Amendment" and read the thread about the 500 cameras in New York City. The opportunity for abuse with these kind of techniques is outrageous.

~ Blue Jays ~

57 posted on 03/22/2006 1:15:46 PM PST by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: MineralMan
Hi MM-

Why is it so difficult for people to identify the slippery slope even after being painted an excellent picture like the one you just illustrated?

~ Blue Jays ~

58 posted on 03/22/2006 1:18:13 PM PST by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: Old Seadog

I wish he was watching the border...


59 posted on 03/22/2006 1:18:13 PM PST by ThePoliticalDookie
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To: Blue Jays
"Why is it so difficult for people to identify the slippery slope even after being painted an excellent picture like the one you just illustrated? " =================================

I have no idea. Numerous people on Free Republic point out the dangers of this sort of thing everytime a story is posted. The problem is that there is an equal number who thinks it's all OK, because you have nothing to fear if you've done nothing wrong.

And that's on a conservative discussion forum. Imagine how bad it is elsewhere. It's frightening.

Ausweiss bitte!


60 posted on 03/22/2006 1:21:52 PM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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