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The Joe Wilson Op-Ed

Posted on 03/22/2006 3:46:52 PM PST by Guy in Bumblebee Suit

Hi, longtime lurker and firsttime poster. To the point: I'm looking for the editorial or op-ed that Joe Wilson wrote in, I think, the LA Times not long after the 2003 State of the Union address where he supports the administration.

If my memory serves me, Wilson was in support of the administration until he was hired by the Kerry campaign (April, 2004, maybe?).

For some reason, the whole Wilson-Plame crap is an ongoing argument in my family, and I'm trying to get my facts in line. If anyone can help me, I'd be grateful.

To diverse on a brief, biographic, introductory vanity, I'm a strong conservative in a family the considers the Democratic Party too far to the right. The (maternal) family has always been politically active, and from my earliest days I was exposed to The Daily World, Soviet Life, and other publications and members from the ACP and CPUSA. I do not hide this aspect of my life and offer it here in the interest of disclosure. I am not another David Horowitz, though, because I never accepted the premise of communism/socialism, it always seemed like a bad imitation of true religion. I know who the left really is, what the left really wants, and how they think. And it scares the hell out of me.

My father was conservative but has taken a strong left turn in the last few years.

I am pro-life, pro-gun, pro-private property rights and pro-God. I try to be a good Christian but I know in my heart that I am a sinner. I am happily married to a supportive wife and we have beautiful children. I am a Marine combat veteran and I am one tough SOB. I am a self-employed renovation contractor and I love debate.

And I want my daughters to grow up in a world where they will never have to wear a Burkha or Berkinstocks.

I live in Bucks County, Pennsylvania, and am available for activism/support.

That's who I am, and I believe I have a strong community in Free Republic. Now that I'm posting, you'll hear from me often.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: bushlied; editorial; googleworksfine; iraq; joewilson; niger; stateoftheunion; trythesearchengine; uranium

1 posted on 03/22/2006 3:46:54 PM PST by Guy in Bumblebee Suit
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To: Guy in Bumblebee Suit

What's wrong with Birkenstocks?


2 posted on 03/22/2006 3:49:00 PM PST by SaveTheChief ("This one goes to eleven.")
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To: Guy in Bumblebee Suit

Sorry, I can not help.


3 posted on 03/22/2006 3:49:26 PM PST by MamaB (mom to an Angel)
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To: backhoe

You have a thread for Joe "Liar" Wilson by chance?


4 posted on 03/22/2006 3:50:16 PM PST by knews_hound (Now with two handed typing !)
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To: Guy in Bumblebee Suit
I believe Joe Wilson wrote his editorial in the NY Times.

Where do you live in Bucks?

5 posted on 03/22/2006 3:50:36 PM PST by dirtboy (I'm fat, I sleep most of the winter and I saw my shadow yesterday. Does that make me a groundhog?)
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To: Guy in Bumblebee Suit; Peach

Peach has great archives. Let's see if she can help.


6 posted on 03/22/2006 3:50:37 PM PST by Bahbah (An admitted Snow Flake)
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To: Guy in Bumblebee Suit

Look at the bottom of the litter box.


7 posted on 03/22/2006 3:50:51 PM PST by msnimje (SAMMY for SANDY --- THAT IS WHAT I CALL A GOOD TRADE!!!)
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To: SaveTheChief

Birkenstocks are fine. I don't like bumblebee suits.


8 posted on 03/22/2006 3:51:16 PM PST by Shermy
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To: SaveTheChief

Women who wear them never have to worry about getting pregnant.


9 posted on 03/22/2006 3:51:33 PM PST by misterrob (Islam is a hate crime)
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To: Bahbah

Peach is on vacation and witout internet for the next week or so. She won't answer your ping.


10 posted on 03/22/2006 3:51:54 PM PST by Miss Marple (Lord, please look after Mozart Lover's and Jemian's sons and keep them strong.)
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To: Guy in Bumblebee Suit

I pinged Backhoe for you, if you dont get a reply ask him via FReepmail.

He is one of our resident sleuths and catalogs information.

Peach, Miss marple and a few others might also be able to help you.

Cheers,

knewshound


11 posted on 03/22/2006 3:52:03 PM PST by knews_hound (Now with two handed typing !)
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To: Guy in Bumblebee Suit
Here's the link to the original NY Times column - but you gotta pay to get it:

http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F30D12F7355E0C758CDDAE0894DB404482

But it's reprinted on this "Progressive" website: http://www.commondreams.org/views03/0706-02.htm

12 posted on 03/22/2006 3:52:30 PM PST by dirtboy (I'm fat, I sleep most of the winter and I saw my shadow yesterday. Does that make me a groundhog?)
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To: SaveTheChief

"What's wrong with Birkenstocks?"

They're kind of like the red shoes, except when you put a pair of Birkenstocks on, you can't stop voting for the Clintons.


13 posted on 03/22/2006 3:53:22 PM PST by dsc
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To: Guy in Bumblebee Suit
If my memory serves me, Wilson was in support of the administration until he was hired by the Kerry campaign (April, 2004, maybe?).

If I remember correctly, uncle Joe wrote his hit piece on Bush in May/June 2003... Novak wrote his column exposing Val in July 2003.

14 posted on 03/22/2006 3:54:27 PM PST by operation clinton cleanup
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To: Guy in Bumblebee Suit
Is this what you're looking for?

Published on Sunday, July 6, 2003 by the New York Times
What I Didn't Find in Africa

by Joseph C. Wilson 4th

(Welcome to Free Republic!)

15 posted on 03/22/2006 3:55:17 PM PST by shezza (God bless our military heroes)
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To: Guy in Bumblebee Suit

This is good: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1457369/posts


16 posted on 03/22/2006 3:55:55 PM PST by mrsmith
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To: operation clinton cleanup

Actually Lyin' Joe was originally against the war because he feared massive US causualties from chemical weapons.


17 posted on 03/22/2006 3:59:05 PM PST by Wristpin ("The Yankees announce plan to buy every player in Baseball....")
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To: mrsmith

Nice (quick!) work.


18 posted on 03/22/2006 4:01:56 PM PST by operation clinton cleanup
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To: mrsmith

bookmk ping for #15 & #16


19 posted on 03/22/2006 4:04:33 PM PST by Dad yer funny
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To: Guy in Bumblebee Suit

Joe Wilson definitely started his campaign against the Bush administration by May 2003 when he attended the "Senate Democratic Policy Committee" meetings and spewed his first version of b.s. to Nicholas Kristof of the NY Times. His fictional version of history is discussed (without attribution by name) by Kristof around May 6, 2003 and by Walter Pincus of the WaPo around June 12, 2003. Wilson is a lying sack-of-XXXX who has been pursuing a filthy treasonous campaign against our government. If you go through posts and links under a search for keyword 'CIALEAK' you will find lots and lots of goodies.

There are lots of good links and details to start with here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1524480/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1514985/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1517278/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1256475/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1526309/posts


20 posted on 03/22/2006 4:07:16 PM PST by Enchante (Democrats: "We are ALL broken and worn out, our party & ideas, what else is new?")
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To: Guy in Bumblebee Suit
Try this: Set up? Anatomy of the contrived Wilson "scandal"
21 posted on 03/22/2006 4:07:29 PM PST by Wolfstar (There is no death, though eyes grow dim. There is no fear when I'm near to Him.)
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To: Guy in Bumblebee Suit
Start here. Wilson's tracks pre July 6, 2003 are not easy to uncover. Nearly all the "news" relates to his Op-Ed re: "the 16 words"

What I Didn't Find in Africa - July 6, 2003
http://www.commondreams.org/views03/0706-02.htm

Bush Nuke Basher Admitted Saddam Sought the Bomb - 07/14/03 <- closest match
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/945893/posts

Kerry Dumps Joe Wilson From Campaign Team - 07/27/04
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1179407/posts

The Wilson-Kerry-NSC Axis Of Evil - 11/30/05
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1531757/posts

22 posted on 03/22/2006 4:10:31 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: Miss Marple

Oh shoot, thanks, Miss M. I had forgotten.


23 posted on 03/22/2006 4:20:53 PM PST by Bahbah (An admitted Snow Flake)
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To: Guy in Bumblebee Suit
Dissecting Wilson has been an in-house sport here, because almost nothing he says is true. The fun is in finding the internal inconsistencies as he contradicts himself from one day to the next, or (you get more points for this) from within the same article.

One of the key things is this. The IAEA never monitored Niger's uranium industry, which debunks a goodly part of Wilson's story.

Wilson admits he never went to the mining regions. What he doesn't say is that no one is allowed to go there, which means that no one monitors those areas. IAEA admitted that they didn't, saying they didn't have the personnel, they didn't have legal permission from Niger, and anyway (according to them) yellowcake is not such a big deal, no need to monitor it.

The visit by Saddam's men to Niger was never a secret, Wilson knew it, it was public information. So pretending that it never happened, or neglecting to mention it in any of his pieces is a lie of omission, since obviously it complicates his story.

And then there is the little matter of Libya; where did their yellow-cake come from? According to Wilson, France would never do anything illegal (and obviously, we know that is false right up front) and would not be involved in smuggling uranium. But according to early reports after Libya's surrender, thats exactly where their yellowcake came from.

Wilson doesn't mention that he belongs to a Saudi-financed think tank, he doesn't mention that he is partners with a Saudi investor specializing in West African mining. That may or may not mean anything. But its never mentioned, so you have to wonder if he thinks it would again distract from his story if people knew it.
24 posted on 03/22/2006 4:26:07 PM PST by marron
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To: Guy in Bumblebee Suit

I don't know the whereabouts of the Op Ed - but on Rush Limbaugh's website - he has (or had) a link called: "The lies of Joseph Wilson" or something like that! He also listed that item in an issue of the The Limbaugh Letter.

If you don't find it there, you might send Rush an e-mail and ask him to post it again.


25 posted on 03/22/2006 4:29:19 PM PST by CyberAnt (Democrats/Old Media: "controversy, crap and confusion" -- Amen!)
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To: Dad yer funny
Well, it's not what he specifically asked for, IE: the op ed. Though it's to the point.

Boy newbies used to catch holy heck here LOL! Now we give them a chance (sigh).

26 posted on 03/22/2006 4:29:49 PM PST by mrsmith
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To: Guy in Bumblebee Suit

Welcome to FreeRepublic. I lived first 36 years in Montgomery County, PA. You won't get me to move out of Florida.


27 posted on 03/22/2006 4:30:45 PM PST by moonman
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To: Enchante

Bump for bookmark


28 posted on 03/22/2006 4:40:47 PM PST by The SISU kid (Scoliosis Pomegranate Polk (my new Blues name))
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To: Guy in Bumblebee Suit
In a related thread to the Plame/Wilson affair:

Fitzgerald Motion re: Clarification of PDB Order and Seeking Time Extension for Production

29 posted on 03/22/2006 4:47:23 PM PST by demlosers
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To: mrsmith

yup , ... well , he hasn't said "Thank You" yet[!?!]

[* from the file marked DUNNO'bout This]


30 posted on 03/22/2006 4:47:35 PM PST by Dad yer funny
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To: knews_hound
You have a thread for Joe "Liar" Wilson by chance?

Hadn't done that yet- may have to get on it.

31 posted on 03/22/2006 4:49:18 PM PST by backhoe (-30-)
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To: demlosers

Seach threads - keywords are "libby" and "Joe wilson":

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/keyword?k=libby

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/keyword?k=joewilson


32 posted on 03/22/2006 4:53:25 PM PST by demlosers
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To: Guy in Bumblebee Suit

"I know in my heart that I am a sinner."


Welcome to FR! You'll have plenty of company here!


33 posted on 03/22/2006 4:55:07 PM PST by saleman
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To: backhoe

I appreciate the reply.

As did the origional poster I'm sure.


34 posted on 03/22/2006 4:55:25 PM PST by knews_hound (Now with two handed typing !)
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To: Guy in Bumblebee Suit
You got a lot of help here. Why no replies? You're making me wonder, considering you signed up today. What's the matter? Cat got your tongue?

FMCDH(BITS)

35 posted on 03/22/2006 5:00:50 PM PST by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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To: nothingnew

Ok, ok, ok! I just got to the bottom of the reply thread, so much to go through. I do appreciate ALL of the help and comments.

Haven't found exactly what I'm looking for yet, but I am sure it's in this extensive list you folks provided.

Many links have hit the "favorites" folder, I'll go through them over the next few days. I'll post the editorial/op-ed in it's entirety when I find it.

Thanks you all very much!

And I do feel welcome here, thanks for that, too.


36 posted on 03/22/2006 5:10:50 PM PST by Guy in Bumblebee Suit
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To: marron
where did their yellow-cake come from?

Not to mention the question of why Saddam would want to go through the trouble of purchasing what he already owned. His uranium stocks were not secret or anything. They did have some pretty little UN seals locking them up...not that this mattered.
37 posted on 03/22/2006 5:17:47 PM PST by P-40 (http://www.590klbj.com/forum/index.php?referrerid=1854)
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To: A Citizen Reporter; AliVeritas; alnick; AmericaUnited; Anti-Bubba182; arasina; BlessedByLiberty; ...
Scooter ping!

Hurry.

38 posted on 03/22/2006 5:19:09 PM PST by Howlin ("It doesn't have a policy. It doesn't need to have a policy. What's the point of a Democratic policy)
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To: Wristpin
“There was a lot of reason to be concerned about weapons of mass destruction in the hands of Saddam Hussein,” he told WABC Radio’s Mark Simone. “I always thought that he probably had chemical and biological weapons and biological precursors as well.”

Wilson said his primary policy difference with President Bush wasn’t over Saddam’s WMDs, but rather on the question of “how to construct a policy that gets to the national security issue of disarming Saddam Hussein and does so at minimum risk to other legitimate U.S. interests both in Iraq and in the region.”

But aside from that, Wilson said he cheered President Bush’s decision to topple the Iraqi dictator, telling Simone: “When the president went up to the U.N. and got the [war] resolution unanimously passed at the U.N., nobody applauded louder than I did.”

39 posted on 03/22/2006 5:24:18 PM PST by Howlin ("It doesn't have a policy. It doesn't need to have a policy. What's the point of a Democratic policy)
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To: Guy in Bumblebee Suit

Joe Wilson info resource.


40 posted on 03/22/2006 5:58:12 PM PST by Khurkris (Don't blame me. I was out the entire day.)
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To: Howlin

Thanks, Howlin. I have time to read threads, now that the car chase is over. ;-)

Pinz


41 posted on 03/22/2006 6:04:09 PM PST by pinz-n-needlez
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To: Howlin

OK, I found what I was looking for. After reading it, my recollection is clear. I found the article, after clicking through so many of your links, on Wilson's own website (!). Here's the meat of the matter that I wasn't clear on:

Wilson wrote this article in the Los Angeles Times on Feb 6, 2003, nine days after the State of the Union address that got the left (and, ultimately, Wilson) in such a tizzy because the President used "those 16 words" about the British intel/Africa/yellowcake thing. I couldn't remember what it was about the Wilson piece that was sticking in my mind, but here it is: he disputes nothing in the SOTU, only has a problem with the war option. His complaint about the war option is that Wilson believes that Saddam will use his WMD against the US! It is not until later in the year that he changes his tune on WMD.

Here's the link:
http://www.politicsoftruth.com/editorials/big_cat.html

I can tell you after a few hours of researching this, Joe Wilson should be the most irrelevant man in the world. Virtually everything he ever said is contradicted by Joe Wilson. He was the perfect advisor for Kerry.

'nuff said.

Thank you for your help everyone.


42 posted on 03/22/2006 6:04:16 PM PST by Guy in Bumblebee Suit
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To: Guy in Bumblebee Suit

Clicking through MY links? Or everybody's links?

BTW, now that you've linked it, I remember finding that web site and reading through it; he had some of the chapters of his "book" on there and even THEY made a liar out of him.........LOL.


43 posted on 03/22/2006 6:07:39 PM PST by Howlin ("It doesn't have a policy. It doesn't need to have a policy. What's the point of a Democratic policy)
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To: Howlin

I still think that whatever Rockefeller discovered that sent him to Syria, Jordan, and Saudi Arabia in January 2002, just a few short months after 9/11 is what caused the Joe Wilson mission in February 2002.

I think the Vice President's questions stirred up a hornet nest and there was a need to do something.

I find it difficult to call the trip Joe Wilson took as investigative and definitive. He submitted nothing in writing, but had a whole lot to write about a year later.


44 posted on 03/22/2006 6:25:07 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Guy in Bumblebee Suit

A nice quote from your link:

"There is now no incentive for Hussein to comply with the inspectors or to refrain from using weapons of mass destruction to defend himself if the United States comes after him.

And he will use them; we should be under no illusion about that." Joe Wilson Feb 2003


45 posted on 03/22/2006 6:30:36 PM PST by Wristpin ("The Yankees announce plan to buy every player in Baseball....")
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To: Guy in Bumblebee Suit
Welcome to Free Republic.

I live in Bucks County, Pennsylvania

Same here.

46 posted on 03/22/2006 6:41:41 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Guy in Bumblebee Suit

Yes, that LA Times op-ed proves how fraudulent Wilson's later campaign was/is. We had some extensive discussions of this on other threads here in the past 3 years. The whole "Niger uranium" line of attack on Bush was cooked up only starting in May 2003 when libs became desperate to try to discredit the administration.


47 posted on 03/23/2006 3:10:39 PM PST by Enchante (Democrats: "We are ALL broken and worn out, our party & ideas, what else is new?")
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To: misterrob

They don't need a dictionary for the word ugly... just a mirror.


48 posted on 03/23/2006 3:14:38 PM PST by johnny7 (ďNah, I ainít Jewish, I just donít dig on swine, thatís all.Ē)
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