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John McCain, you treasonous bastard, I challenge you or any of your traitorous cohorts...
Jim Robinson

Posted on 03/22/2006 8:58:42 PM PST by Jim Robinson

Edited on 03/23/2006 2:06:21 AM PST by Jim Robinson. [history]

Re: Your attempt to shut down political free speech on the Internet

John McCain, you treasonous bastard, I challenge you or any of your traitorous cohorts to find even one thread, one post, one paragraph, one sentence or even one lousy word posted to this web site that is not fully protected by the First Amendment!

And I will extend that to one chapter, one group, one poster or any group of posters on this forum. Name one assembly, petition, letter, protest, meeting or rally convened, filed, submitted, attended or supported by members of this forum that is not 100% protected and guaranteed as free speech or free assembly by the First Amendment!

Your McCain-Feingold campaign finance reform legislation is a treasonous act. You and your cohorts are attempting to subvert the Constitution of the United States of America, the very same constitution that you swore an oath to defend, so help you God! That makes you a domestic enemy of that great document and a traitor to your country. Yes, and Benedict Arnold was a war hero before he turned traitor too.

How dare you even think that you are qualified to sit in the oval office! Ronald Reagan's office! President? Hah! You miserable excuse for a two-bit political hack, you're not even qualified to shine Ronald Reagan's boots. If you do run, I'm afraid you're gonna be at least one vote short. It'll be a cold day in hell before a traitor like you ever receives my vote. And that's a campaign promise you can take to the bank.

You can take your fascist campaign finance laws and the jackbooted FEC anti-free-speech enforcers you are empowering and put them where the sun don't shine. And if this post is in violation of your unconstitutional law, shove it too!


Paraphrased from In the Face of Evil: Reagan's War in Word and Deed:

The Beast never dies, it simply changes form. The Beast has known many forms: Bolshevism, communism, Nazism, fascism. The Beast has had many names: Lenin, Stalin, Mussolini, Hitler, Tojo, Mao, Pol Pot.

The Beast cannot co-exist with freedom. The very first freedom lost is the freedom of speech, then religion, knowledge and the arts. Anything that empowers the individual must be destroyed. The state must control all.

Power to the state.

Power as an end to itself.

Those who speak out against the Beast are labeled extremists, radicals, warmongers. Churchill, McCarthy, Reagan.

The Beast must be contained, appeased. We must have "Detente" at any cost. Direct confrontation of the Beast must be avoided.

Appease him and pray the wolf may pass our door.

Free speech must die.

The Beast never dies.



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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

Scum bump

Thanks


851 posted on 03/23/2006 7:38:46 AM PST by B4Ranch (The truth is good for you, like sunlight, but too much all at once can really hurt.)
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To: savagesusie
>>>>McCain is bought off or being blackmailed by photos or confessions by some communists.....

Both.

Hey Johnny! How goes it in the Bahamas!

852 posted on 03/23/2006 7:40:17 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: onyx

Google the phrase "McCain graduated 894th out of a class of 899". Interesting comments come forth.


853 posted on 03/23/2006 7:40:53 AM PST by Sundog (cheers)
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To: jmc1969
McCain may not be the perfect Senator, but he isn't Satan or Hillary.

Not asking anyone to be perfect.

Just thinking maybe they could uphold the Constitution.....

I know..that's just a small thing.

854 posted on 03/23/2006 7:44:25 AM PST by Osage Orange (Why ?)
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To: writer33

This is unbelievable. McCain KNOWS better- that's part of what is SO infuriating about this. He's turning selling out into an art form.

Hard to believe how much I used to respect and admire this man.

Thanks for the ping.


855 posted on 03/23/2006 7:44:59 AM PST by SE Mom (God Bless those who serve..)
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To: staytrue

from wikipedia

When the North Vietnamese discovered he was the son of the Pacific Command Admiral, who was in charge of the US war effort in Vietnam, he was offered a chance to go home, in an effort to embarrass the American military. Senior POWs had ordered there would be no going home unless all went home, and McCain, as did most POWs, followed orders. McCain recorded an anti-American propaganda message, but said he did so as a result of torture.




AHEM!!!!



U.S. Navy pilot John McCain was shot down on his 23rd mission over North Vietnam, October 26, 1967. He was released March 1973 after being held captive by the North Vietnamese for 5-1/2 years.

Days after his release, McCain wrote the following account of his captivity, which was published in U.S. News and World Report - May 14, 1973:
"I think it was on the fourth day [after being shot down] that two guards came in, instead of one. One of them pulled back the blanket to show the other guard my injury. I looked at my knee. It was about the size of a football . . . when I saw it, I said to the guard, 'O.K., get the officer' . . . an officer came in after a few minutes. It was the man that we came to know very well as 'The Bug.' He was a psychotic torturer, one of the worst fiends that we had to deal with. I said, 'O.K., I'll give you military information if you will take me to the hospital.'"

McCain said it was only a coincidence that at the same time he was offering "military information" in exchange for special medical treatment, his captors discovered that his father was Adm. John S. McCain Jr., commander of all U.S. forces in Europe and soon-to-be commander of all U.S. forces in the Pacific, including Vietnam.

After learning about McCain's father, the communists rushed McCain to one of their military hospitals where he received treatment not available for other U.S. prisoners of war.

"Nhan Dan published answers to questions by one of its correspondents made by a U.S. air pirate detained in North Vietnam. "He is Lt. John Sidney McCain . . ."
Hanoi VNA International Service in French - November 9, 1967

"To a question of the correspondent, McCain answered: 'My assignment to the Oriskany, I told myself, was due to serious losses in pilots which were sustained by this aircraft carrier due to its raids over North Vietnam territory and which necessitated replacements. From 10 to 12 pilots were transferred like me from the Forrestal to the Oriskany . . . upon arrival near the target, our formation, with six bombers, would mount the attack according to the following order: I would be number three, and the chief of the formation, number one. Each pilot would have to approach the target from a different direction, the choice of which would be left to him.'"
November 9, 1967 - Department of Defense

"A meeting which will leave its mark on my life: My meeting with John Sidney McCain was certainly one of those meetings which will affect me most profoundly for the rest of my life. I had asked the North Vietnamese authorities to allow me to personally interrogate an American prisoner. They authorized me to do so. When night fell, they took me--without any precautions or mystery--to a hospital near the Gia Lam Airport reserved for the military. (snip) The officer who receives me begins: I ask you not to ask any questions of political nature. If this man replies in a way unfavorable to us, they will not hesitate to speak of "brainwashing" and conclude that we threatened him. (Passage omitted) "This John Sidney McCain is not an ordinary prisoner. His father is none other than Admiral Edmond John McCain, commander in chief of U.S. Naval forces in Europe."
Francois Chalais - January 1968

"Reds Say PW Songbird Is Pilot Son of Admiral
. . . Hanoi has aired a broadcast in which the pilot son of United States Commander in the Pacific, Adm. John McCain, purportedly admits to having bombed civilian targets in North Vietnam and praises medical treatment he has received since being taken prisoner."
Saigon-UPI, June 4, 1969

"The English-Language broadcast beamed at South Vietnam was one of a series using American prisoners. It was in response to a plea by Defense Secretary Melvin S. Laird, May 19, that North Vietnam treat prisoners according to the humanitarian standards set forth by the Geneva Convention."
Washington Post - June 5, 1969

"Dr. Fernando Barral, a Spanish psychiatrist residing in Cuba, returned from the Democratic Republic of Vietnam . . . he brought back some journalistic news: an interview with a North American pilot captured in the DRV after bombing Hanoi on 26 October 1967. The meeting between him and the pilot took place in an office of the Committee for Foreign Cultural Relations in Hanoi. The pilot interviewed is Lt Cmdr John Sidney McCain, son and grandson of American Navy Admirals . . . "In the course of the interview, on various occasions he showed that knowledge of the language, saying some words, dates, and so forth in Spanish, or [using it] when he thought the interpreter was seeking the corresponding French word. "Naturally, from the beginning this established a more direct communication between us, and more than one question or my response was made directly in Spanish."
Havana Granma - January 24, 1970


856 posted on 03/23/2006 7:45:23 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Howlin
I'm not the one threatening to sit home or go to another party.

No. You're the one browbeating everyone to toe the party line no matter how much of a treasonous bastard the nominee is. We won't leave the Republican Party if McCain is coronated as the nominee - the party will have left us.

I love the way some of you assume that nobody ever "does anything" except you.

I never said that you didn't do any work within the party. I'm talking about what you're doing to undermine McCain's potential nomination in order to avoid the nightmare scenario being discussed. From the evidence I see, all you're doing is bettering his chances by screaming at Republicans to stick to the party nominee no matter how much of a dangerous liberal psychopathic treasonous bastard he is.

857 posted on 03/23/2006 7:48:11 AM PST by Spiff ("They start yelling, 'Murderer!' 'Traitor!' They call me by name." - Gael Murphy, Code Pink leader)
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To: Jim Robinson
BUMP!

We need a real conservative for '08 and I can't for the life of me imagine how anyone can support that turn-coat.

Bill Bennett started a good conversation this morning identifying who among the Senate were in fact good conservatives. It was a short list...but there is still hope.

We need to champion the men of principle.

858 posted on 03/23/2006 7:49:38 AM PST by Paul Ross (Hitting bullets with bullets successfully for 35 years!)
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To: Sundog

That wik site is not factually reliable.

John graduated 5th from the bottom of the class. I just asked my husband how many in their class graduated. He said 800 and somehing. I am not about to count the photos in his Lucky Bag --- the name of the yearbook.

John was not a serious student. His grandfather and father were Academy men and John was 'expected' to attended. He rebelled... but never enough to flunk out or get expelled. Party time.


859 posted on 03/23/2006 7:55:15 AM PST by onyx (Bush/Cheney '08 --- by coup if necessary)
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To: Spiff
From the evidence I see, all you're doing is bettering his chances by screaming at Republicans to stick to the party nominee no matter how much of a dangerous liberal psychopathic treasonous bastard he is.

Rubbish.

McCain will NEVER get the GOP nomination; I've been saying that for months. In fact, I told that to a Senate staffer in January of 2005 face to face.

860 posted on 03/23/2006 7:58:08 AM PST by Howlin ("It doesn't have a policy. It doesn't need to have a policy. What's the point of a Democratic policy)
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To: Spiff

And thanks for proving my point; you ASSUME nobody is doing anything except you just because YOU don't know about it.


861 posted on 03/23/2006 7:58:46 AM PST by Howlin ("It doesn't have a policy. It doesn't need to have a policy. What's the point of a Democratic policy)
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To: Calpernia

Flat out lies in that.

You know that anybody and everybody can add and edit content in wikipedia,, don't you?


862 posted on 03/23/2006 7:59:14 AM PST by onyx (Bush/Cheney '08 --- by coup if necessary)
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To: Jim Robinson

Too many lazy voters are impressed by his "war hero" status. In my book he lost that through his actions years ago


863 posted on 03/23/2006 8:02:17 AM PST by StoneColdTaxHater
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To: onyx

Yes I do. McCain probably posted that Wiipedia entry himself.


864 posted on 03/23/2006 8:03:20 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Smokin' Joe
[ I think his FBI file has some very damaging stuff in it and that Hillary is pulling his strings. I don't think he has the stones to just quit--ambition overwhelms that, so there he is, in the dc 'Hilton', doing the same dance he did in Hanoi. ]

Exactly.. wonder if Hillary dont have some movie reels from her friends in Hanoi of Veitnam of John "servicing" the enemy in the Hanoi Hilton.. or being "used " in some mannar..

865 posted on 03/23/2006 8:08:07 AM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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To: RasterMaster
McLame (or should we call him "Luke Skywalker") has zero chance of making it past the first primary. Arizona FReepers should make sure he doesn't make it past his next Senate race.

The Arizona Republican Party does not listen to the grassroots, rank and file Republicans. The party leadership is beholden to the congressional delegation (which includes McCain) and the RNC. The grassroots was able to unseat a party player RINO, Mike Hellon, as national committeeman against much opposition from the party leadership and even from the dais at the state convention, but that's all we've been able to do so far. Going against McCain will be VERY unpopular with the state party apparatus. He receives 87% of his donations from out of state and can muster millions and millions of dollars for his next Senate race. Defeating that juggernaut is highly unlikely given the lay of the battlefield. However, there is talk of reinstating the Recall McCain effort to either get enough signatures for a recall vote or at least do him enough damage that his political survival is no longer ensured.

866 posted on 03/23/2006 8:08:21 AM PST by Spiff ("They start yelling, 'Murderer!' 'Traitor!' They call me by name." - Gael Murphy, Code Pink leader)
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To: Jim Robinson

I was afraid that you had mellowed, but I see that you have expressed my feelings precisely. Thank you for your continued efforts.

If the Republican Party is stupid enough to give McCain the nomination for president, they could be opening the way for a Third Party Candidate (remember Perot) to give the presidency to Hillary. Only the Unbridaled Arrogance of the Republican Party can put Hillary in Office. The question is will they see the light in time?

Or will the Republicans need to experience the Minority side of the aisle to remember their Contract with America?

RamS


867 posted on 03/23/2006 8:08:40 AM PST by RamingtonStall (More Guns ==> Less Crime! Get your CHL today! http://www.ohioccw.org/)
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To: Jim Robinson
IBTZ?

Just kidding!

868 posted on 03/23/2006 8:09:43 AM PST by flada (Posting in a manner reminiscent of Jen-gis Kahn.)
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To: Jim Robinson

I dunno... I think you were a bit too subtle here. ;)


869 posted on 03/23/2006 8:12:05 AM PST by kevkrom ("...no one has ever successfully waged a war against stupidity" - Orson Scott Card)
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To: Jim Robinson

WOW Jim, tell us what you really think of this arrogant fellow who keeps riding his ex-POW status, unlike fellows like Sam Johnson who just does his best for his constituants. I too think we need to keep our eyes on this fellow, I don't trust him, although people in AZ have voted him into office many times. He doesn't ring true, no matter how his "Straight Talk Express" tries to show-case him.


870 posted on 03/23/2006 8:14:13 AM PST by tillacum
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To: Jim Robinson

It's OK for everyone else to have free speech but not the ordinary Joe.
They can call our President of the United States Hitler or anything else and they think that is OK. The Senators or Congressmen can attack our President and talk about impeachment and whatever else they can talk about. They can throw insults, lies (always lies) and claim this and that without any proof and we're supposed to take it without response?

They want to shut down tax the internet in order to shut down the networking the American public has found. It's an avenue whwere we can speak with one another, inform one another when something is going on and learn the truth...the REAL truth instead of listening to the "antique media" that is here today.

The ordinary citizen has to sit back and listen while some hollywood know it all can go on stage and say what they want without rebuttal from the ordiniary person. Well, with the advent of the internet (thanks, Al) that is all changed. We can speak our minds and voice OUR opinions the same as everyone else. It is our RIGHT. It is however a threat to all of those who would rather we sat back like sheeple and kept our mouths shut. There have been some vicious things said about our President and others that in my mind were treasonist and yet went unpunished. No way will they shut down free speech. The professors in the classrooms get away with their hate filled speech and so the American people will continue to do so. This is a snowball and it's rolling and it cannot...will not be stopped.

God bless Free Republic


871 posted on 03/23/2006 8:16:15 AM PST by cubreporter (I trust Rush. He has done more for this country than we will ever know. Thanks, Rush!)
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To: Spiff

Oklahoman GOP grass-roots elected a non-endorsed Tom Coburn....AZ can do it too.


872 posted on 03/23/2006 8:17:19 AM PST by RasterMaster ("Bin Laden shows others the road to Paradise, but never offers to go along for the ride." GWB)
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To: Brad's Gramma

Hey you guys, Clint N Suhks and Brad's Gramma, if you stay home and don't vote, you have lost to the other side.


873 posted on 03/23/2006 8:17:38 AM PST by tillacum
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To: Howlin
McCain will NEVER get the GOP nomination; I've been saying that for months. In fact, I told that to a Senate staffer in January of 2005 face to face.

So your plan is to cross your fingers and hope really hard that McCain won't be the nominee. And in the meantime you're going to beat up on anyone who says that they won't vote for McCain IF he is the nominee. If you're so sure that he won't be the nominee, then why are you wasting your time and everyone else's in this and similar threads insisting that everyone vote for McCain if he is the nominee? Why get so worked up over people saying they won't vote for him and why do you keep throwing up the Hillary as President bugaboo to scare everyone? If he's not going to be the nominee, as you state, then you should just ignore threads like this.

874 posted on 03/23/2006 8:18:28 AM PST by Spiff ("They start yelling, 'Murderer!' 'Traitor!' They call me by name." - Gael Murphy, Code Pink leader)
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To: tertiary01

During the 1996 Convention in San Diego, my friend and I went down to the main hotels to see who we would see! There was McCain, standing in the middle of the hallway at the hotel, just saying hi to people...Putting out his hand for people to meet. This was not his convention, mind you. It may sound nice, but it was out and out creepy. Really.


875 posted on 03/23/2006 8:19:07 AM PST by Hildy
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To: Howlin
And thanks for proving my point; you ASSUME nobody is doing anything except you just because YOU don't know about it.

Okay. I'll plead ignorance. Howlin, what specifically are you doing or are you planning to do to undermine McCain? That is when you're not on Free Republic browbeating all of the posters who agree with the Founder of Free Republic in insisting that they won't vote for John McCain under any circumstances?

876 posted on 03/23/2006 8:20:14 AM PST by Spiff ("They start yelling, 'Murderer!' 'Traitor!' They call me by name." - Gael Murphy, Code Pink leader)
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To: Spiff
So your plan is to cross your fingers and hope really hard that McCain won't be the nominee.

Thanks for proving my point again..............LOL......you're looking ridiculous.

877 posted on 03/23/2006 8:20:58 AM PST by Howlin ("It doesn't have a policy. It doesn't need to have a policy. What's the point of a Democratic policy)
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To: Spiff
That is when you're not on Free Republic browbeating all of the posters

I see; you're NOT browbeating anybody who doesn't agree with you, right?

You're making my case over and over and over. Keep it up.

878 posted on 03/23/2006 8:22:25 AM PST by Howlin ("It doesn't have a policy. It doesn't need to have a policy. What's the point of a Democratic policy)
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To: gidget7

gidget7, I know Jeb Hensarling, personally, and if he's behind this I'm for it. He is a real, dyed in the wool, conservative Republican. He is a gem of a fellow to boot.


879 posted on 03/23/2006 8:32:00 AM PST by tillacum
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To: Howlin
I see; you're NOT browbeating anybody who doesn't agree with you, right? You're making my case over and over and over. Keep it up.

I came in here agreeing with and supporting Jim Robinson, the founder, owner, and operator of Free Republic. You came in here to play unelected party whip to dilute Jim's comments and keep the traditional party supporters in line just in case McCain does get coronated as the nominee. I don't know what "case" you're talking about, but if I was trying to prove my case as I just outlined, you're proving it over and over again.

Like I said, if you are so sure of your stated prediction that there is no way that McCain will get the nomination, then what the hell are you doing as one of the most prolific posters in this unprecedented thread wherein the founder of Free Republic threw down the gauntlet against that treasonous bastard John McCain.

880 posted on 03/23/2006 8:32:05 AM PST by Spiff ("They start yelling, 'Murderer!' 'Traitor!' They call me by name." - Gael Murphy, Code Pink leader)
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To: Howlin
Thanks for proving my point again..............LOL......you're looking ridiculous.

You're the one who claimed that you are doing work and specifically responded implying that you were doing work to undermine John McCain. When asked what you're doing specifically in that respect you answered this way. Put up or shut up.

881 posted on 03/23/2006 8:33:47 AM PST by Spiff ("They start yelling, 'Murderer!' 'Traitor!' They call me by name." - Gael Murphy, Code Pink leader)
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To: Jim Robinson

I agree a hundred percent. But McCain-Feingold is only one of his many treasonous acts. Although it is receding into the past, the worst of his treasonous acts was to betray the POW-MIAs lost in Vietnam.

McCain has always made a big thing of being a POW and a War Hero, but he betrayed his comrades and his country. That's the worst thing he ever did. He really is the Manchurian Candidate.


882 posted on 03/23/2006 8:36:17 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Spiff
You're the one who claimed that you are doing work

No, I didn't; those are words you put in my mouth when I said you ASSUMED nobody is doing anything except you.

Now you can post back to me and say "So you're not doing anything like me? I'm important, see? I'm doing the mostest and the bestest. I'm a better person than you are!"

What I am doing is none of your business; unlike some on here, I don't have the compulsion to puff myself up by denigrading others who don't "share" what they're doing when they're off this board.

883 posted on 03/23/2006 8:36:31 AM PST by Howlin ("It doesn't have a policy. It doesn't need to have a policy. What's the point of a Democratic policy)
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To: de Buillion
Doesn"t that make him an Ace for the enemy?

My understanding is that he crashed 5 aircraft between the time he started flight training and the time he took aircraft #6 into combat where he was shot down.

884 posted on 03/23/2006 8:36:32 AM PST by Myrddin
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To: Spiff
You came in here to play unelected party whip to dilute Jim's comments and keep the traditional party supporters in line just in case McCain does get coronated as the nominee.

Rubbish. Unlike you, I have no agenda on FR; I post my opinions only.

885 posted on 03/23/2006 8:38:33 AM PST by Howlin ("It doesn't have a policy. It doesn't need to have a policy. What's the point of a Democratic policy)
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To: Myrddin

That is correct. His joke nickname was Ace, because he managed to crash five of his own planes. That was before he got shot down on his first mission into Vietnam.

This wasn't just a matter of bad luck. Anyone who wasn't an admiral's son would have been washed out long since for bad attitude and incompetence. How many pilots get the chance to wreck five of their own planes through sheer screwups?


886 posted on 03/23/2006 8:40:49 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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Comment #887 Removed by Moderator

To: Cobra64

I ignored it.


888 posted on 03/23/2006 8:46:50 AM PST by cubreporter (I trust Rush. He has done more for this country than we will ever know. Thanks, Rush!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Scorched Keyboard! Good post!


889 posted on 03/23/2006 8:50:49 AM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: Cicero
Isn't the "A" in his nickname usually followed by two esses?
890 posted on 03/23/2006 8:52:45 AM PST by F.J. Mitchell (President Bush isn't absolutely perfect,but he is absolutely less flawed than his critics .)
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To: tillacum; Clint N. Suhks; Brad's Gramma

Tillacum speaks truth. Here's something every freeper should tatoo on their head:

ALWAYS Vote. Always Vote HONESTLY. The IDIOT capitulates by silencing himself.

dung.

Voting honestly means voting for the candidate that will represent you best, even if you have to write it in.


891 posted on 03/23/2006 8:53:59 AM PST by Moose Dung (Soiling the Shoes of the Lunatic Left)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Maskes me glad that Bush didn't sign this monstrous piece of legislation.

What? He did sign it?

Never mind.

892 posted on 03/23/2006 8:58:06 AM PST by ActionNewsBill ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act")
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To: Spiff; Jim Robinson
What someone needs to do ( with Jim's permission) is to send Jim's letter to Brit Hume for his "From the Political Grapevine" segment.

A poll of about 200,000 FReepers shows that McCain only gets less than 10% support of Conservatives, Republicans, and Independents.

I wonder if King Brit would mention FR's anger at McCain?
893 posted on 03/23/2006 8:58:48 AM PST by Beagle8U (John McCain, you treasonous bastard)
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To: Jim Robinson

Huzzah!!


894 posted on 03/23/2006 8:59:46 AM PST by Uriah_lost (http://www.wingercomics.com/d/20051205.html)
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To: staytrue
He campaigns for ANTI ABORTION Republicans TOO (SEE PRESIDENT BUSH IN 2004

That hardly makes up for the fact he actively campaigns AGAINT Pro-Life candidates. The reason he campaigned for President Bush is because that was good for John McCain.
895 posted on 03/23/2006 9:02:04 AM PST by msnimje (SAMMY for SANDY --- THAT IS WHAT I CALL A GOOD TRADE!!!)
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To: Myrddin
My understanding is that he crashed 5 aircraft between the time he started flight training and the time he took aircraft #6 into combat where he was shot down.

If this is true, then not only can we prevent McCain from becoming president in '08, we can prevent him from being re-elected to his Senate seat. Swift Boat Vets #2.
896 posted on 03/23/2006 9:05:17 AM PST by Old_Mil (http://www.constitutionparty.org - Forging a Rebirth of Freedom.)
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To: mistera1

Our founder and host takes a strong stand! (For once, I am completely in step here!)


897 posted on 03/23/2006 9:05:48 AM PST by LK44-40
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To: Jim Robinson

John McCain will NEVER get the Republican nomination. Would that the voters of Arizona had recalled his @ss when they had the chance.


898 posted on 03/23/2006 9:08:09 AM PST by Antoninus (The only reason you're alive today is because your parents were pro-life.)
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To: Jim Robinson
Your McCain-Feingold campaign finance reform legislation is a treasonous act.

This sentence, along with the rest of your post, is dead on balls accurate.

899 posted on 03/23/2006 9:09:27 AM PST by b4its2late (There are good terrorists.............. DEAD ONES.)
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To: Howlin
What I am doing is none of your business; unlike some on here, I don't have the compulsion to puff myself up by denigrading others who don't "share" what they're doing when they're off this board.

Let's review, shall we?

In Post #768 I said the following to you:

I got news for you. If McCain is the GOP nominee then Hillary or whatever Dem wins their primary gets the White House. I don't want a Dem in the White House, but I don't want a treasonous bastard like McCain in there either. They're equally dangerous to our country. So, you better get busy and work to ensure that McCain does not win the nomination if you want to see a Republican in the White House. Inaction on this is basically a vote for Hillary Clinton for President. I'm already working on some things to expose McCain and end his political career. You need to get to work too or your worst nightmares will be realized. That is what is at stake and Jim Robinson appears to have recognized that. Get with the program.

In response to my specific point about working to undermine John McCain, in Post #811 you answered:

I love the way some of you assume that nobody ever "does anything" except you.

Therein, you implied that you were working to undermine John McCain. In disbelief, in Post #857 I responded:

I never said that you didn't do any work within the party. I'm talking about what you're doing to undermine McCain's potential nomination in order to avoid the nightmare scenario being discussed. From the evidence I see, all you're doing is bettering his chances by screaming at Republicans to stick to the party nominee no matter how much of a dangerous liberal psychopathic treasonous bastard he is.

And your response, in Post #861 was:

And thanks for proving my point; you ASSUME nobody is doing anything except you just because YOU don't know about it.

So, pleading ignorance and asking for specifics, I stated the following in Post #876:

Okay. I'll plead ignorance. Howlin, what specifically are you doing or are you planning to do to undermine McCain? That is when you're not on Free Republic browbeating all of the posters who agree with the Founder of Free Republic in insisting that they won't vote for John McCain under any circumstances?"

Your response, in Post #878, to my query about the specifics of the work against McCain that you stated you were engaged in was a snotty:

I see; you're NOT browbeating anybody who doesn't agree with you, right? You're making my case over and over and over. Keep it up.

No details yet. My response in Post #880 to your snotty non-response was:

I came in here agreeing with and supporting Jim Robinson, the founder, owner, and operator of Free Republic. You came in here to play unelected party whip to dilute Jim's comments and keep the traditional party supporters in line just in case McCain does get coronated as the nominee. I don't know what "case" you're talking about, but if I was trying to prove my case as I just outlined, you're proving it over and over again. Like I said, if you are so sure of your stated prediction that there is no way that McCain will get the nomination, then what the hell are you doing as one of the most prolific posters in this unprecedented thread wherein the founder of Free Republic threw down the gauntlet against that treasonous bastard John McCain.

Also, in Post #881 I asked again what specific work against McCain you were talking about:

You're the one who claimed that you are doing work and specifically responded implying that you were doing work to undermine John McCain. When asked what you're doing specifically in that respect you answered this way. Put up or shut up.

Unable to put up or shut up, in Post #883 you responded by claiming that you never said that you were working to undermine McCain and then launched into a silly attack against me:

No, I didn't; those are words you put in my mouth when I said you ASSUMED nobody is doing anything except you. Now you can post back to me and say "So you're not doing anything like me? I'm important, see? I'm doing the mostest and the bestest. I'm a better person than you are!" What I am doing is none of your business; unlike some on here, I don't have the compulsion to puff myself up by denigrading others who don't "share" what they're doing when they're off this board.

There it is - all in one place. Anyone can now clearly read your implication that you were working to undermine McCain but when you were pressed for details you claimed that you never said that you were doing such work and then you started attacking me in order to change the subject and deflect scrutiny.

You're not only not working in any observable manner to undermine McCain's rise to power, you're working to his benefit by peppering this unprecedented thread with your party uber alles bullying of anyone who refuses to cast their vote for the treasonous bastard. Jim Robinson has laid down the gauntlet against McCain and this thread serves to rally the troops to bring him down. But you're here handing out the Kool-Aid while trying to douse our torches and blunt our pitchforks. It is not going to work.

900 posted on 03/23/2006 9:11:18 AM PST by Spiff ("They start yelling, 'Murderer!' 'Traitor!' They call me by name." - Gael Murphy, Code Pink leader)
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