Posted on 03/23/2006 11:38:46 AM PST by jveritas
Salman Pak is the location of the Boeing Airplane, suspected of use in training airline hijackers.....would show possible ties to 9/11.
Absolutely, and according to Bush Haters, Saddam and Sons should have been trusted never to use them again.
Well said!
Can anyone clarify for me....this document is regarding wmds from 1987. Is it disputed by the left that Saddam had the wmds at that time?
I see from the other long thread that you have done the translation,,,....thank you so much.....not what I was hoping it might say however.
>>>Can anyone clarify for me....this document is regarding wmds from 1987. Is it disputed by the left that Saddam had the wmds at that time?
I don't think that anyone disputes the fact that Saddam had and used chemical weapons in the 80s. The dispute is whether he was manufacturing or had control of any weapons after the UN moved in to monitor and dismantle sites after Gulf War I.
Page 3 Translation from document ISGZ-2004-031613 :
In The Name of God the Most Merciful The Most Compassionate
Directory of General Security
Directory of Security Ninevah Province
No: 10106
Directory of General Security/ Director Section 1
Subject: Information
Date: 24/8/2002
The confident (1253) declared the following:
1. In the date of 21/8/2002 an American delegation who is visiting the Northern Region has paid a visit to the headquarters of the Iraqi communist party in Shaklawa. And the representative of the communist party presented accusing the Iraqi government of hiding members of Al Qaeda organization in the region of Salman Pak in addition to members of the Turkish Workers party and the Iranian Moujahidee Khlak and that they are trained to use chemical weapons and that Iraq will use them in case there is a military strike directed againt it.
2. The Kurdish communist party did inform the Norwegian authorities about the existence of inside the Norwegian territories called (Malakrikar) from the residents of Irbil and in charge of the Al Qaeda organizations there and upon the attempt of the Norwegian authorities to arrest him he fled to China with his family.
3. In the date of 15/8/2002 and common meeting was held between the two Communist Iraqi and Kurdish parties.. and this to unify their political position in regards to the international situation and the Iraqi dossier.
End of translation.
The “confident” is the agent source that the Iraqi intelligence is using and his is identified only by his number 1253.
So Iraq wasn't a Communist Utopia before the war?? Michael Mooron said that Saddamn was a loving leader who never hurt his people. Who ya going to believe?
Great Find, keep up the amazing work.
Pray for W and Our Freedom Fighters
It wasn't then...and it wasn't in 2000, but at least around here (geographically), it is common for leftists I talk to to be unaware that Sadaam *ever* provably had chemical weapons aside from maybe some prototypes. They've bought the line "there never were any WMDs".
They are also unaware that the U.N. inspectors actually put their hands on WMDs, took samples of the contents, tagged and inventoried large quantities.
Most people really into it will remember, but ignore it. Many casual followers have had their memory over-written by the mantra.
ISGQ-2003-M0004666_TRANS.doc
Male 1
The big countries don’t want any country but themselves; the club that monopolized the advanced technologies and the advanced weapon don’t want other country to have it. This is the truth, at the end they don’t sympathize with us when we want to make Chemical or Biological weapon. The presence of a resolution means there is a system, and his position is just like the Westerners.
In the Chemical Weapon Protocol, Shevardnadze, was still Soviet Union, I told him “Brother Shevardnadze, here is Israel they have Nuclear Weapon, and you are running after me for the Chemical, OK don’t you believe in balancing?” he said “I do believe in balancing, but we have to get rid of the Chemical weapons” keep it by you, and surely if he wants to wipe it out, it is not expected from him to let Iraq have weapons. But Iraq can keep them!
Here is yet another admission that they used them on Iran back in the Iran/Iraq war. Something they were not admitting publicly. There is also admission that they were not being truthful to the UN during the 90's.
ISGQ-2003-M0004666_TRANS.doc
Male 1
Let me talk in details, the 17 Tons you didn’t answer him a satisfactory answer. Which is related to the previous programs, this doesn’t mean that these 17 Tons are maybe hidden! I don’t think so. Then what is preventing you and comrade Tariq before you came, he said we for sure produced Biological, means Biological weapons. So he is really looking in the previous programs. I am telling you, that not all your answers to Ekeus about the Chemical are correct and precise. You gave him numbers to satisfy him, and it seems until now he is satisfied with the total. But at the same time I know that America is looking to prove our use of chemicals against Iran! And we in fact did use Chemical on the Iranians. And we didn’t answer them that we used Chemical on the Iranians. So in all your programs that you present in Chemical there still will be a gap, and whenever he wants to raise it he can raise it with what’s called Leveling, the one you talked about. Between the imported data and the weapons produced and the destroyed, there is going to be a gap a number of weapons used in Iran you guys didn’t cover.
Send a note to the Powerline blog giving them this thread URL and this post #27.
Near the end of the briefing, a question was asked about the documents. DoD runs about a week late in getting transcripts posted, but here's a link to the video of the presser.
One thing that jumped out was the Admiral's response... in essence... "We were surprised at some of the things we found. There will be surprises."
This comment was at the tail end of the presser.
Select the "DoD Brief" window.
Thanks. Our hope is to find more and more documents and get the truth out.
In the Name of God the Most Merciful the Most Compassionate
Huh? And who is that Saddam? Dragging ole Al-la into all this makes it morally legal to gas entire cities and towns and murder thousands I guess.
More Saddam Documents ping
There was earlier discussion regarding the aircraft at Salman Pak and some suggested that it is in fact a Russian Tu-154.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/866766/posts
Thanks for your great work.
NONE. OF. THIS. MATTERS.
These documents have come out way way too late to change public opinion and conventional wisdom. Nothing less than finding a polaroid of Saddam and Osama high-fiving in front of an A Bomb will do anything to change what MSM wants to say. They will just say Saddam was lying or bluffing his intentions.
Thanks for the link.
I can't get one of the web pages open ( 70.169.163.24 ) and when I try to open the docs on the other page http://fmso.leavenworth.army.mil/products-docex.htm#iraq, in English or Arabic, it either can't find the doc, or else gives me a message that the link is broken.
I wonder if they're updating. I hope they aren't pulling them down (just a little government paranoia)
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